Serious Question: What do you think of the SC430?

"404 Name Not Found" (404namenotfound) 04/05/2014 at 01:24 • Filed to: None

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Manuél Ferrari > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:26

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Did it come with an option for a manual?

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:26

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Ho-Hum car imo, full of potential though.

wabbastang > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:27

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404 Name Not Found > Manuél Ferrari 04/05/2014 at 01:30

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No.

404 Name Not Found > wabbastang 04/05/2014 at 01:30

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It's not that bad.

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:31

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So ugly. I'd take an SC400 over it every day.

Nibby > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:34

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Nope.

Manuél Ferrari > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:37

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Damn

That was my guess. But I thought I'd check just in case

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:37

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Horiffically bad. It is the car for people who could afford any number of amazing metal and went "No, let me just buy the most expensive toyota that isn't an SUV" for NO. REASON. AT. ALL. The SC430 does NOTHING better than any of its competition that includes the boxster, the Z3/4, the SLK, and so on and so forth. It is slow, handles like ass, looks like a blob, and is expensive as all hell. AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!!

Scary__goongala! > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:44

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meh

E30Joe drives a Subaru > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 01:48

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Drove one at work yesterday.

Wouldn't ever in a million years. Everything is dreadful.

404 Name Not Found > Nibby 04/05/2014 at 01:52

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What's the alternative? Number one qualification is comfort.

404 Name Not Found > E30Joe drives a Subaru 04/05/2014 at 01:52

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Aside from the handling, was it a good cruiser?

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:06

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It's overweight. It's underpowered. It's not comfortable. It doesn't handle well. Add these things up, and you should have a car that's a decent image car, but it's ugly. The back seats are best used a bookshelves. It'd got a power retractable hardtop, but having the top down kills the Lexus-quietness of the cabin. There is actually not one positive thing I can say about this car. Unless maybe you put a decent exhaust on it, at which point it will sound good (with the top down) while it goes slower than anything that competes with it.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:13

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It's a bloated boulevard cruiser made for upper-middle class housewives to waft down Rodeo Drive and pretend to be one of the rich folks . Sort of an upscale Solara, if you will. It's the sort of car that well-off women buy when they have a mid-life crisis.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:20

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It's not a bad car, just a bad successor to the sporting "SC" nameplate, in sort of the same way that the Catera was a good car but a bad Cadillac.

hethoughtofcars > Manuél Ferrari 04/05/2014 at 02:29

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1st gen did!

PS9 > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/05/2014 at 02:33

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What a terrible thing to say about the Solara...

hethoughtofcars > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:34

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I'd look to Audi. Their cabriolet is of high quality inside and out, and the convertible is great for long drives and definitely tuned to luxury over anything sporty. I actually prefer the multi-layer, almost handmade feel of the cloth top to the those like BMW's or Lexus's.

Manuél Ferrari > hethoughtofcars 04/05/2014 at 02:38

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Nice!!

That would add to the feelz

PS9 > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:41

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Would you turn down an SL55 for it?

PS9 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 04/05/2014 at 02:46

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Here, the legendary toyota reliability is actually a detriment; you're stuck with it forever once you have it. You can't even hope for a breakdown to get it a quick trip to the junkyard.

midengineer > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:46

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The looks are a solid 'eh'. I haven't driven either, but I'd rather have a TT. (That's the only comparable car that comes to mind.)

Axial > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 02:46

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I think it's one of the only good looking cars to ever come out of Lexus, the other being the LFA (though it's in a different part of the beauty spectrum).

Otherwise, probably not that great given the era of Lexus it spawned from.

QCGoose > MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig 04/05/2014 at 02:49

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*barfs*

God I can't wait for this stupid stance trend to die. Simply awful no matter the car.

hethoughtofcars > Manuél Ferrari 04/05/2014 at 02:51

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If you can find one of the 14 they sold, it would definitely be kinda more interesting. The specs make it sound promising: a 3.0L straight 6 making 225 horsepower (BMW wouldn't have one of those in the 3 series until 2004), 5 speed manual....well, actually that's it.

It also weighed over 3500 lbs, probably having something to do with the relentless pursuit of sheer numbness.

Manuél Ferrari > hethoughtofcars 04/05/2014 at 02:55

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Lol that would be hard to find!!

They should have made it with the V8 to compensate for the weight

hethoughtofcars > Manuél Ferrari 04/05/2014 at 03:09

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The v8 made only 35 extra hp. It actually would be worse once the added weight was figured in....

samssun > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 03:22

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A true leap forward in soap bar design.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > PS9 04/05/2014 at 03:27

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It's true though. The Solara (as well as the Volvo C70) is driven almost exclusively by middle-aged women.

Manuél Ferrari > hethoughtofcars 04/05/2014 at 03:36

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oh wow! Didn't know that!

35 HP extra is not worth it!

Redd, the RX-7 that could > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 03:57

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It looks like shit. The wheels it came with were laughable. The engine was meh. The ride was not what a lexus should have been. The handling was not confidence-inspiring. Oh and it's expensive. And did I mention that it looks like shit?

Eutropius > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/05/2014 at 06:46

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But the Catera was so awful in its Opel Omega guise it single-handedly torpedoed the brand's credibility in the executive sedan segment.

Eutropius > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 06:51

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Hmm. When new they were positioned to go against the Mercedes SL which was a bit.. ambitious. But now the used prices are more in line with its contemporary SLKs and Audi A4 'verts I think it might actually not be the worst deal in the world if you're looking for a topless cruising machine.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 08:57

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If you want a comfortable droptop with Lexus reliability, get an IS250C.

Nibby > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 09:01

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Z4, SLK or SL, Sebring convertible, Miata, etc.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 09:13

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Top Gear named this "The Worst Car In The History Of The World." I have to concur.

It's terrible at everything, and at best only mediocre at being a car. There are numerous better alternatives.

That said, I really wish people would stance cars like this, because then they aren't ruining anything worth driving.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Eutropius 04/05/2014 at 09:55

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Exactly! But if you remove the Cadillac badge, and replace it with something more... normal, you suddenly get a halfway decent car!

Slave2anMG > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 10:49

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I believe it was last car that was available with a cassette deck. That ought to tell you something about the target demographic...

404 Name Not Found > hethoughtofcars 04/05/2014 at 12:54

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The Audi is nice. But I believe the 1.8 has a lot of problems and the cloth top is awful when up and on the highway.

404 Name Not Found > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 04/05/2014 at 12:56

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The Z3/4: The ride is way to harsh on the road, except the newest gen, which is substantially more expensive.

SLK: Looks like a cheerleader.

Boxter: IMS issues.

SL: Heard of Airmatic suspension?

404 Name Not Found > PS9 04/05/2014 at 12:57

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Yes. Because the cheapest Merc you can buy, is the most expensive you'll ever own. I can see an easy 10k going into that car.

404 Name Not Found > Eutropius 04/05/2014 at 12:58

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That's what I was thinking. Thank God for some reason around here. I would take this over a SLK or an Audi, just because of the fact that both those cars are money pits. The SC does what it was designed to do really really well.

E30Joe drives a Subaru > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 13:41

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It was comfortable

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 14:20

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Z3/4 - actual sports car

SLK - actual sports car

Boxster - actual sports car

So if you want a sporty roadster/coupe car, why not get something that actually works as one? Buying the SC430 because the boxster occasionally has issues (and really that was only the first gen) is like buying a GM W-body or a ford escort or a dodge intrepid because "Whoa now, better not get one o' dem furrin jobs! I'll just stick with my ford or chevy because that is *proven* technology. Those people buying those camrys and accords are rolling the dice!" I guarantee you anyone who has ever bought the SC430 new only did so because they though "I want something sportier than my lexus.....but I also want a lexus" and that was that. No cross shopping. At all.

wabbastang > PS9 04/05/2014 at 14:58

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"legendary toyota reliability" is a joke perpetuated only by the fact that their MANY recalls are usually silent, so they fly under the radar more than other brands. My mother in law's sc430 is boring and falling apart. My mom and sister both own siennas which they talk about like they have saved the world, but in reality are constantly going into the shop for mechanical issues and body problems (broken/stuck doors etc), and every time turns into significantly more time down as there are a dozen recalls to perform and other problems to fix.

Everything has it's ups and downs, but this stupid sense of overachieving reliability ToyHons get drives me nuts.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > 404 Name Not Found 04/05/2014 at 17:58

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If you can find the top gear "worst car In the world" special, it won.

chocolatechickenpotpie > 404 Name Not Found 04/06/2014 at 05:27

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"You can have her I don't want her, she's to fat for me..."

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 04/06/2014 at 13:55

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