"Tom McParland" (tommcparland)
03/25/2014 at 13:14 • Filed to: wagon, Volvo, V90 | 22 | 91 |
!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! that the Volvo Concept Estate will be basis for the next generation V90 wagon and XC90 SUV.
Leadbull
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:15 | 23 |
If there were ever a candidate for the rebirth of wood paneling...
AMC/Renauledge
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:16 | 0 |
Um, yes. And twice on Sundays.
Nibby
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:17 | 1 |
I really want to post the dragon fucking VW GIF, but I won't.
Marcus Rhatigan
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:17 | 0 |
That's a massive front overhang. Audi must be envious.
Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:19 | 17 |
Brian Silvestro
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:21 | 22 |
EL_ULY
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:22 | 5 |
yup, S90 is confirmed, a V90 is just going to follow it :]
Max Finkel
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:22 | 13 |
It really sucks when Autobild does a great render. They never look like these renders.
505Turbeaux
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:22 | 0 |
so we might actually get a V90 for more than a whole year! Woo hoo!
For RWD Volvo wagons, those V90's just had it for me. That piped interior...
Kate's Dirty Sister
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:23 | 4 |
Tom McParland
> EL_ULY
03/25/2014 at 13:24 | 1 |
Of course we are all dying to know if the V90 will make it stateside....as soon as you get some intel, please let us know.
chazmichaelmichaelsiii
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:24 | 0 |
So pretty'z!
waveridin1959
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:24 | 5 |
Andy Pitt
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:25 | 4 |
Holy sweet fuck, I need this in my life. If this can be in the world, it's not such a bad place after all. Trouser stirrings, they are happens
otaconmutasim
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:26 | 0 |
I need a hi-res wallpaper for this!
6shelBfan6
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:27 | 0 |
Reminds me of a Lagonda!
Audistein
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:27 | 1 |
Didn't Volvo tease the 2015 XC90 more than 6 months ago? Surely they've been working on that for longer than the Volvo Concept Estate. Personally, I think that the Concept Estate is a demonstration of a new Volvo design language that has been in the works since just after the XC60 concept back in 2007.
iaintafraidofnoghost
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 13:27 | 25 |
Old man needs his eyes checked
Alfalfa
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:31 | 0 |
If it has the same seats, I may have to engage some (unnamed) illegal activities to obtain one.
EL_ULY
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:32 | 0 |
of course buddy, i'm always checking our stuff here :]
Mustang 'DontHitTheCrowd' GT
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:33 | 0 |
Holy toledo, I LOVE those rear haunches!
Brewman15
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:35 | 8 |
If you, uh, can't tell....I'm excited!
CAR_IS_MI
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:35 | 1 |
Holy Freaking Long Batman!
Kate's Dirty Sister
> iaintafraidofnoghost
03/25/2014 at 13:36 | 3 |
The top picture make it look way too long and ungainly, it almost looks like the Lagonda wagon conversions.
It's better on the other pictures. The XC90 looks more like an evolution of the current model.
nauyop
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:37 | 2 |
Now that's awkward...
swansong, rockin' the wagons
> CAR_IS_MI
03/25/2014 at 13:39 | 1 |
Longwagon is long...
But I like it! Looks like a torpedo.
interrogator-chaplain
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 13:40 | 4 |
Top picture is the best one!
SolamenteDave
> iaintafraidofnoghost
03/25/2014 at 13:42 | 3 |
He'll be talking to chairs, before you know it.
GARedE34
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 13:43 | 3 |
I'd be fine with more cars looking like Lagonda wagons.
mitsustiggy
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:43 | 1 |
i dont care how the final design comes out, im paying someone to build me that top picture, low sleek EWB wagon? take my money. all of it!
Kate's Dirty Sister
> interrogator-chaplain
03/25/2014 at 13:43 | 0 |
Sales prediction : 7 units
CALUSA
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:43 | 0 |
Those look very ugly. AND photoshopped.
Der Sportwagoner
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:44 | 2 |
Sportwagons approved.
Kate's Dirty Sister
> GARedE34
03/25/2014 at 13:46 | 2 |
Good for you, but I'm glad it won't happen
Doctor-G-and-the-wagen
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:47 | 0 |
Guess which one the US will get, and won't get :|
iaintafraidofnoghost
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 13:52 | 0 |
Personally I like the top picture, but to each their own :)
RWD_Volvo
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:58 | 1 |
Now if only it were RWD :D
bob and john
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 13:59 | 0 |
need new pants.
PS9
> EL_ULY
03/25/2014 at 14:00 | 0 |
You can get Volvo intel??? Who did you om nom nom to get that job?!?
TDIGuy
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 14:01 | 0 |
That rear fender line reminds me something of the '70-'74 challenger body line
jubaspdubliner
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 14:02 | 0 |
I own two Volvo wagons and if they bring that one over, it'll be my third. Volvo "estates" are all over the place where I live....and I'm in the US. Albeit, the PDX. So not exactly the norm around here car buying wise, but I digress.
Carwood
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:02 | 2 |
Rear needs to be more dramatic...but hey these are super cool nonetheless.
Andrew Seifert
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:02 | 0 |
What about the next gen XC70? Any word on that?
Tom McParland
> Andrew Seifert
03/25/2014 at 14:03 | 0 |
Haven't heard
ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> Carwood
03/25/2014 at 14:07 | 2 |
looks exactly like the current line-up's rear ends. Give us something new!
Andrew Seifert
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:07 | 0 |
I hope they bring it back, even though I know they don't sell very well
fintail
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:07 | 0 |
Looks enormous, and not bad. Might be able to overcome the Chinese-owned stigma. I've seen a few V60 on the road now, not bad either.
20394089234089234
> Carwood
03/25/2014 at 14:09 | 0 |
These are just renders, and they seem to just tack on the new details onto the existing V70 and XC90.
imprezanoturbo
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:09 | 0 |
I really miss the days when Volvo meant "boxy and slow. " Why does every new car have to look aggressive and douchy?
20394089234089234
> Audistein
03/25/2014 at 14:10 | 1 |
They've been working on the new XC90 for a loooooooooong time now.
EL_ULY
> PS9
03/25/2014 at 14:14 | 0 |
I'm an ex Volvo Master Tech and current Volvo Parts master :]
Nedus
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:17 | 0 |
From the back it looks terribly dated. Yawn.
tapzz
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 14:19 | 0 |
Meanwhile, also in Germany:
Yup: Mercedes CLA 45 AMG. Wagon.
More pr0n at Autoweek.nl , and see also Saracen, Manual Douche Elitist's post on Oppo
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Crentist
> Kate's Dirty Sister
03/25/2014 at 15:01 | 3 |
I love the Lagonda. Love it. Something about the unbelievably dated 'cutting edge' about it, that I love.
It's like looking into the soul of the 80s.
Carwood
> 20394089234089234
03/25/2014 at 15:06 | 0 |
Oh I knew..I just wish they could have added a little personal touch to the rear that blended the concept more.
Kevin Barrett
> CAR_IS_MI
03/25/2014 at 15:08 | 0 |
It's not any longer than a sedan form of the same platform. We just got used to 5-door versions of cars being shorter than their sedan counterparts. Now we see a wagon with an under-square cargo area window and we think "Ford Country Squire."
Kate's Dirty Sister
> Crentist
03/25/2014 at 15:09 | 1 |
Same thing could be said of the chrysler new Yorker
real127
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 15:25 | 0 |
OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHSSSSSSSHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dr. Understeer
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 15:38 | 0 |
*faints
Autojunkie
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 16:03 | 0 |
!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
B uilt in Sweden by a Chinese car company
Captain Intenso
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 16:12 | 0 |
Slap on some Pegasus rims and an R badge, and I'll buy it in sonic blue.
vroompshhhh
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 16:31 | 0 |
If they sloped the back of the hatch by about another 15 degrees to make it a little more fastbackish they'd lose about 3 cubic feet of storage space, but sexiness would increase 150%
homoman
> Andrew Seifert
03/25/2014 at 16:37 | 1 |
The current model hasn't sold as well. Go through the northeast or the northwest and you'll see quite a lot of the previous version. The current version still has issues dealing with the Ford parts which cut into vehicle reliability. In one model year Consumer Reports dropped the XC70 from recommended to not recommended. I've been waiting for the Ford issues to go away to buy the next Volvo. Well over 10 years old and at 170,000 miles the only issues we've had were due to Ford parts. The transmission is the only one that is troubling. In older Volvos, pre Ford, there were less issues and better durability.
homoman
> Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
03/25/2014 at 16:40 | 0 |
I have a relative still driving a 1966 122S four door. It's a family treasure that came over from Sweden.
EChid
> homoman
03/25/2014 at 16:46 | 0 |
The reason the current version isn't selling well is because it doesn't make much sense on paper and faces much more competition than the previous generation did, not reliability. In fact, the current XC70 is both a lot more reliable and a lot better than the last gen. But now you can get loaded Explorers, Flexes, Acadias, MKXs, JGCs, etc. for the same money with more power and similar fuel economy.
Volvo was recently in the top 7 brands for reliability, so that's not the issue, especially with a car like the XC70 which uses fairly old powertrains and has been on the market for a while.
EChid
> Andrew Seifert
03/25/2014 at 16:48 | 0 |
It may not sell well, but no Volvo does. They will likely bring it back, definitely before they would ever bring back the V70. The XC70 apparently has extremely high customer loyalty numbers, and it's crossover pretensions are perfectly on point for North America if they can improve the fuel economy and space issues.
LS1RX7-owen
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 16:54 | 0 |
Sweet mother of 3rd row please give it to me like that oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I promise to never even LOOK at another E63 AMG wagon again if I can get my hands on this beautifully crafted family mover!
Hawkstrike6
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 17:08 | 0 |
I see brown; I see wagon. If it's manual, I expect the Jalop staff to vote with their wallets, or turn in their Jalop cards.
Ethan Edman
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 17:32 | 0 |
I will sell my future children to own a V90
Fuel_of_Satan
> Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
03/25/2014 at 17:41 | 0 |
That gray one looks exactly like my friends old car, only he had the Euro-spec headlights and larger Hella buckets. Same or similar wheels, same color and same useless ride height (Say what you like, I've driven a 240 wagon that low. Looks great though!).
That non-metallic gray is a pretty rare and beautiful color on these, this is only the 3rd I've seen even on pictures, and the gold BBS's really set it off. I like that he's kept the windows see-through as well! Hotness!
Dunnik
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 18:01 | 0 |
NippleWarmers
> Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
03/25/2014 at 18:05 | 0 |
Do people like this because it makes you a hipster?
Cole Paquette
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 18:37 | 0 |
I... Volvo? V90? And an XC90? Looking like that?
I REQUIRE THESE IN MY DRIVEWAY.
Half-Caulked Jack
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 18:38 | 0 |
Sweet jebus, make them keep that kink in the fender.
ranwhenparked
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 19:27 | 1 |
Wow, an actually useful wagon that's shaped like a wagon and not a sedan with a slightly stretched roof! It also looks like that slight Coke bottle kick up at the flanks is going to be a Volvo trademark from now on. They missed out on it the first time it was popular in the '60s and '70s, but better late than never.
homoman
> EChid
03/25/2014 at 19:47 | 0 |
Really? Because the 2004 that we have, which was made up through 2006 had better than average reliability and was one of CR's recommended pic. The 2007 (the current model) was not recommended and has a worse than average repair record. The current model uses the more powerful T6 and still relies on the Ford transmission along with the electronics.
There is a market for people who do not want an Explorer, the MKX and higher profile vehicles like the XC90. Granted the XC60 is very nice, but that's meant for pretentious soccer mommies who want something small and stylish to go out to the Hamptons and cannot afford the Mercedes and wouldn't be caught dead in a Ford or a Lincoln. For those of us that need to the room to haul stuff around and want reliability and a car that can get out of it's own way while saving my neck (at least four times on black ice) with the computer controlled all wheel drive, I'll take another XC70 if they do a new version that's Ford free.
Anon
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 19:52 | 0 |
WEEEEEEL FUCK ME...I thought this was a jag at first!
Kaufmania: Mark Webber's Stunt Double
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 20:12 | 0 |
Do want shooting brake concept!!!!
Color-Commentary
> waveridin1959
03/25/2014 at 20:41 | 0 |
Mine too. I hope it's priced reasonably instead of "oh, it's a 5-series / A6 competitor now because we said so." Cause it's sure pretty, and I suspect will be much more usefully packaged that the 3-series wagon or A4 Avant.
JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder!
> Nibby
03/25/2014 at 21:24 | 0 |
I just had to Google that gif, and that is so funny and disturbing!
James May is my spirit animal
> Tom McParland
03/25/2014 at 22:54 | 0 |
Wife graduates from Med school in 2017. I will have one of these in 2018.
SamfaKenessal
> NippleWarmers
03/25/2014 at 23:00 | 0 |
No. Driving a 1973 Peugeot makes you a hipster.
quattrofl
> Tom McParland
03/26/2014 at 06:39 | 0 |
all the wants....in the world
Autophile412 - what's the world got in store?
> Tom McParland
03/26/2014 at 09:05 | 0 |
I can see myself.
Bud Damberg
> Tom McParland
03/26/2014 at 10:19 | 1 |
I really like the look of the top concept wagon, love the long stately look, makes it look substantial.
mk0san
> Tom McParland
03/26/2014 at 10:46 | 0 |
Well fap me dry! Those look great!
evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse)
> Crentist
03/26/2014 at 23:52 | 0 |
Exactly, I feel like '80s and '90s cars get an unfair stigma just because the trends of their time seem dated now. If you put yourself in the headspace of that era, you can understand the designs better. There are so many cool cars that were forgotten from those eras.
Crentist
> evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse)
03/27/2014 at 01:10 | 0 |
It's almost that certain designs can't be appreciated, or even understood in any other era. It's almost how watching reruns of a sitcom from the 90s is just so painful. At the time Friends was a huge hit. Try watching it now, outside of that period of time, and it's a train wreck. At least for me.
EChid
> homoman
03/28/2014 at 18:05 | 0 |
Oh really? Because a look at Consumer Reports reveals that the reliability record of of the XC has only improved since 2004, and is significantly better than it was. It's also Recommended by CR as a new buy, right now. TrueDelta also indicates that the newer generation has significantly fewer issues, so I'd love to know where your facts are coming from. FYI, the 2007 XC70 was the last-year of that generation, not the first year of the current one. The XC90 and 70 has significant transmission issues in the 2003s/04s/05s as well, whereas Ford has hasn't had recent or significant issues with their transmissions. But by all means...
Your explanation for why people wouldn't want an XC70 is the very reason they don't sell in great numbers. The XC is a perfect vehicle if you down want _____, don't care about _____ and want this ______ but not _____ or ______. It's niche. Don't get me wrong, I love the XC70. It's one of my favourite vehicles, and a contender for a future purchase...but when viewed within the context of the ever-more-competitive luxury CUV market, they rarely are the logical choice. You have to *really* want one, and that's what Volvo has to change.
Nick
> Tom McParland
03/29/2014 at 22:09 | 0 |
If only they actually built concept cars.
homoman
> EChid
03/30/2014 at 15:16 | 0 |
Thank you for correcting the mistake on the beginning of the current series.
My figures came from CR during 2009 when friends were debating between and XC70 or an XC90 and either new or low mileage off-lease.
Re transmission, when the issue was detected in our XC70 by the dealer during routine inspection the service manager's words were "you have a slight seal issue on the transmission. It's common with the Ford transmissions and worse in the current series. You have probably another 100K miles before it needs to be dealt with." That was within the last two years.