Let's talk trucks for a minute. TRUCK NO

"N/A POWAAAHH" (subarulove)
03/03/2014 at 12:55 • Filed to: Rant

Disregard the lowered hardbody, it's Chevy time.

First things first, nice asshat park job bud.

Secondly, how is this considered legal? I understand he has the lowered bar and lights to fulfill government requirements, but come on. Little Becky on her way to soccer practice in the back of mom's minivan will be wide-eyed and understands the danger of having a literal monster truck being road legal.

I don't want to be a dick like the 'Straya government and be all DEFECTIVE, DEFECTIVE, DEFECTIVE MOTHERF***ER, but seriously. If this dude rear ends someone, say hello to your new passenger, mr. 50" tire. That bar at the front isn't holding jack, and it won't hold jill either. Get this shit off the road.

Thirdly, let's talk function, since we all like to hate on stancers for being dysfunctional. The door handles are most likely above head height, blood drain anyone? Next, how are you supposed to plant your ass in that seat? Yes, let's do some high kicks every time we go to the parking lot. And let me get my catapult so we can put the groceries in the back! And a toolbox, 7 feet in the air. Genius! Time to get gas? Let me take a shower in fuel first bro, gotta get that pre-workout

We shouldn't have to deal with this, that's all I'm saying.

/Rant

Edit: for those saying I'm being extreme, it could be worse. "I think every male in America who gets their truck lifted like that should go to jail regardless of murder.- nik" from !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

DISCUSSION (65)

D > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 12:58

I like that Nissan a lot

Brian Silvestro > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 12:58

There should be a "know it when I see it" kind of law with us at the review board for this type of stuff.

PRBot II > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:00

Kinja'd!!!

Lol, clean tires.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:00

I've come to the conclusion that the people who drive these trucks and don't take them off road, do it because it pisses people off. My way of dealing with them is to just drive evasively and remind them what they gave up. Or when my audi was working, hustling them on some dirt roads to let them know that just because they can traverse a boulder, their 2-ton bro truck isn't a rally car.

TillTheWheelsFallOff: Brocoma > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:00

It's all about technique, haha.

Frosted > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:01

Kinja'd!!!

This is usually the point. Though lately people seem to do it because "it looks cool". Those are called bro trucks. They're dicks. Lowered Nissan looks dope though.

puddler > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:02

people with tiny penises (i refuse to call them men) have been overcompensating since forever. they were taught by their tiny penis'd fathers who were taught by their tiny penis'd fathers before them...i blame the women that keep these bloodlines going.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:02

booo go home. Its no more dangerous than getting rear ended by a semi truck, and we let those on the road. Beautiful rig IMO.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:04

Disregard the lowered hardbody

Kinja'd!!!

Kind of runs into (hurr hurr) the collision safety issue from the opposite direction, that Nissan does. Speaking as someone who's nose-dived under things twice with a low-ish floppy-springed car, I still like it, a lot, but "prepare your anus" er, "radiator".

The reverse Mansfield bar is a laugher, agreed. The tires are perhaps wide enough to make up *some* of the slack. Still more practical than a stance-bro, and less likely to wrench your back high-lifting than low-lifting, won't get stuck, and can see for miles as long as those miles are not on the right side of the truck.

Mostly playing devil's advocate: would I do this? Hell no, for your stated reasons.

Jayhawk Jake > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:05

These trucks really do scare me. My car isn't very big, and I feel like I just disappear next to them. Not only does it scare me from the perspective of the truck not seeing me (seriously, some of the ones I've been to the right of I would be 100% invisible), but it also worries me that someone AROUND the truck won't see me next to it.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:09

Lifted because fat chicks can't jump!

D > D
03/03/2014 at 13:11

How much would it cost to properly lower a truck just like the Nissan? I mean it looks fixed yeah?

N/A POWAAAHH > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8
03/03/2014 at 13:12

Last time I checked, big rigs aren't lifted 6' off the ground. I'd rather be hit by sheet metal than a spinning object. Don't get me wrong, I like off road capable machines, but not the street equivalent of Grave Digger, which would be an accurate name for this thing.

Rainbow > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:12

It's probably not legal unless it has huge mud flaps. I remember watching some cop show a few years back and they pulled over a bro truck because, in whichever state they were in, the tires need something behind them from the midpoint up. It's just that it's such an easy law to avoid and it's not enforced as much as it should be.

I think there was also a maximum height for the front end, but it could be overcome by using a skidplate or bullbars or something mounted below the bumper.

N/A POWAAAHH > PRBot II
03/03/2014 at 13:13

Always a tell tale sign

N/A POWAAAHH > D
03/03/2014 at 13:13

Build thread

N/A POWAAAHH > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
03/03/2014 at 13:14

I bet the most dirt this thing has seen is when the city decided to rip up and repave his street.

Joe_Limon > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:14

I am gonna play devils advocate.

Many of us grew up playing with all sorts of toy cars. Everything from monster trucks to Ferrari's. Why would you hate on this truck for its practicality when a Ferrari is equally if not more impracticle of a vehicle?

These vehicles represent us fulfilling our childhood dreams. And simply acknowleding that different people have different aspirations shouldn't be a difficult for a Jalop. Basically, turning your nose up at bro trucks is on par with a prius driver turning their nose up at anything that isn't hybrid or electric.

N/A POWAAAHH > Frosted
03/03/2014 at 13:15

I have high doubts that the owner does that. Also, build thread

N/A POWAAAHH > Jayhawk Jake
03/03/2014 at 13:16

Luckily, the brotruck near me don't get anywhere as big as this, but they still make you feel small.

N/A POWAAAHH > Brian Silvestro
03/03/2014 at 13:16

I agree!

BeholdTheCamaro > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:17

Frankly these things scare me a little whenever I'm behind one. I'm in my Camaro, which is low enough compared to regular trucks as it is. I get behind a bro truck and I realize that I could probably fit under the thing. And I live in Dallas, so bro trucks are pretty common here.

N/A POWAAAHH > TillTheWheelsFallOff: Brocoma
03/03/2014 at 13:17

Yeah, I'm not doing that in -20 C weather. No

N/A POWAAAHH > puddler
03/03/2014 at 13:18

I didn't want to be rude and say this, but yeah, if you're going that big, that's the cause

D > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:18

perfect, thanks

puddler > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:24

yea, that was solely referring to the super huge. some chunkier tires and a reasonable lift really come in handy in the slop that is SE texas mud. however, i draw that line at how regularly you have to drive through it...i've never seen a truck that could get farther than my dirtbike.

Jayhawk Jake > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:25

I've seen two around here that absolutely dwarf normal cars. The one I was next to and thinking of was a huge lift on a Ford Excursion. There's another one I've seen from time to time, it's a Dually Ram I believe on a monstrous lift.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:30

Lets not exaggerate, its probably 4 feet off the ground. And a semi is hardly sheet metal, it has no crumple zones and is essentially a 80,000 lbs brick wall. If I had to pick between getting hit with 5,500 lbs and 80,000 id take the lifted truck any day, because physics.

Racescort666 > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8
03/03/2014 at 13:36

Kinja'd!!!

Bumpers on semi trucks are fairly low to the ground. Yes, they have no crumple zones but they are also not going to turn your coupe into a convertible.

HammerheadFistpunch > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:44

Kinja'd!!!

These wheels are the instant douche litmus test. I don't know what, but they are on every douchey truck there is. I'm not saying you need these wheels to be a douche, but I am saying that if you have them, you likely are.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 13:51

I don't think the main argument is he shouldn't do it because it is lame or impractical, its that they are unsafe. You can do what you want to your car and I can think it is ugly as shit but when it puts me and my kids in danger, I'm not going to like it. Wasn't there a post on here about how some dude ran over a stripper and a bro-mobile and not even realize it? Maybe it needs one of the crosswalk arms like on school buses. Would he even be able to see a car to the right side of him on the highway?

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 13:55

Again, I am gonna agrue that any rwd vehicle with over 500hp is just as, if not more dangerous than a big heavy/slow bro truck. Both because of trying to control that much power through two wheels, as wells as not being able to see your surroundings since you are so low to the ground/have tiny windows.

Lekker > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 13:58

This. So much danger to others is involved when someone decides the penis they're overcompensating for, needs something the size of a mining rig.

I have a small car (newer Z) and whenever I am around a tall truck like that, (not normal tall with a 6" lift kit) I simply do not exist to those guys. I usually end up looking at the center of the rim, as that is the nearest thing to my face. That thing would crush firstly the driver side and passenger side of a vehicle if it were to rear-end someone. So basically, we have a vehicle that is more efficient at harming people! I do see why people do it, I used to have a lifted F150. But it was a 6" kit with normal tires, that are simply not the size of your cabin.

Random question, that looks like it is in AZ. More particularly Tucson, am I mistaken?

puddler > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
03/03/2014 at 14:02

if i moved to florida and needed something to drive to cuba, when the pass. door opened a stripper pole would fold out. driverside would be a fireman pole. because way different.

N/A POWAAAHH > Racescort666
03/03/2014 at 14:08

Thank you

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:09

And i'm going to disagree. Its only producing 500 hp if your mashing the pedal. At that point its the idiot behind the wheel that's the problem. If you put a capable and responsible person behind the wheel of both vehicles, I'd say the truck is far more dangerous than a Ferrari.

N/A POWAAAHH > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8
03/03/2014 at 14:11

80,ooo lb rolling mass vs. spinning mass at ? revs per minute. That's like a slap shot to the face vs. a mildly dull saw. You pick, because physics

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:12

on top of that the potential to damage other vehicles/people is far greater with the truck than the ferrari, given that they are both being driven lawfully (which is already debatable with the type mods to truck but not part of my point)

N/A POWAAAHH > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:13

I'm not turning my nose up, I'm fearing my life. Big difference. I'm all for following dreams, but realistically. I'd compare the truck I used to an Alpha Omega being DD'd. Doesn't make sense does it?

N/A POWAAAHH > Lekker
03/03/2014 at 14:17

That's my major problem with it, I don't want to be injured or die because I'm not seen or they lost control. It's florida, mostly like North florida

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 14:18

And with the truck, it aint no sports car, any sensible person driving one will know what is safe for following distances, its just the idiot behind the wheel. Your same argument can be applied to both cases.

N/A POWAAAHH > Rainbow
03/03/2014 at 14:19

It has a bar, as well as lowered lights. But a tiny bar isn't going to stop you at 45mph. It's in florida, so that might be why.

N/A POWAAAHH > BeholdTheCamaro
03/03/2014 at 14:20

Where I'm from, no one goes more than 4" lifts and tires. I've never seen something this big in the flesh.

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 14:20

Given that they are both driven lawefully, the truck driver still has a far better grasp of their surroundings and can start slowing or avoid more potential situations.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:20

evasive maneuvers. I think one would be comparable to jenga.

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 14:22

Last second evasive manuevers in the Ferrari, or several second evasive manuevers in the truck due to environmental awareness... You take your pick.

MountainCommand > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 14:23

i understand your rant. But i must debate:

Keep in mind, (i have no statistics to prove this) but id bet all that i have that drunk drivers are much more common on the road at any given moment, than a lifted bro truck. And DD are far more dangerous. And how many of these bro trucks have been the perp in a fatal accident? I have not heard of any such news story.

I hope you take the same stance on cars that go well beyond the federal speed limits. Because at their rate of speed, (im too lazy to do math) im sure a fast car can do equal or monumentally more damage. You make a broad generalization but leave in much hypocritical debate.

legality is by state of course. And some states have nearly no restrictions. SO VOTE if you want something different. (keep in mind if its illegal, then it is the police's job to enforce such law, or you to alert them of it)

I take some offense here (gasp, offense!). How often is it that these guys actually give you problems. Why do you care so much about other peoples choices? You arent paying for their gas, their car, or their bills. Their impact on your life is minimal. Just because they can afford that much gas gets you mad? Cmon dude, you seem to be blowing this all out of proportion.

When im able to get myself into a nice truck one day, im gonna lift it, im gonna have big ass stacks, and some nice huge mudding tires. Because guess what? Its my money, and ill do what i like. I have no beef with any of the automotive culture circles because All of them have something to offer and learn from.

It just makes me sad that we call ourselves enthusiasts but still hate on specific groups of guys, who also indulge in automotive creativity, further creating a massive divide.

/endrantrebuttal

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 14:24

This would make a good myth busters.

Joe_Limon > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 14:24

Half of your rant was criticizing the practicality aspect of the truck.

As I have mentioned in another post, the truck has a far greater view/environmental awareness on the road. Sure you could make some sweet last second saves in a sports car, but with the truck you can see potential situations and correct for them several seconds earlier.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:31

again, i'm asuming an identical situation for both vehicles. example: a minivan pulls out in front of you unannounced, say 20'. you have to take evasive manuver to avoid the accident now or you hit a family with a 30 mph speed difference. the truck will not make the maneuver. In the event of a collision that truck will do far more vehicular and bodily harm than the Ferrari. Remember its the same situation so don't say the Ferrari was doing 120 so it going to kill them. you decide you want to merge into the right lane of a highway. anything less than tree tops or an f-150 probably won't be visible out that passenger window.

awe46m3zcp > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 14:33

Why is it always a short guy driving these? I honestly have never seen anyone taller than 5'7" get in one.

N/A POWAAAHH > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:33

Well, I never questioned the functionality of the driving aspect, just the functionality of doing day to day things with it, such as shopping, and physically getting yourself in and out of the vehicle. You may have more view, but you can't possibly predict what the driver (number one mod) will be like. If he adheres to typically douche driving, he'll be on your ass. And your view of the skyline doesn't help if you can't see my back bumper.

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 14:41

Again, Ferrari couldn't see the vehicle since the car in front was too large and the view was blocked.

The truck driver sees the minivan ahead of time and slows down where the Ferrari simply swerves potentially endangering anybody coming in the other direction.

N/A POWAAAHH > MountainCommand
03/03/2014 at 14:47

The amount of the road is total subjective to locale. Texas vs. Ohio, of course there will be differences. There's examples, 1 , 2 ( 2 has girls in underwear as ads, NSFW). Oh I do, however you could also argue some roads have artificial low speed limits, such as highways. There hasn't been any votes since I come of voting age. My problem may just be a personal one, as anyone who owns one is usually a dick give or take a handful of people. I don't how to counteract that argument without humble bragging, but I could afford the gas no problem, and I personally love lifted trucks WITHIN reason.

N/A POWAAAHH > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8
03/03/2014 at 14:47

yes it would!

N/A POWAAAHH > awe46m3zcp
03/03/2014 at 14:52

I try to stay away from genetic stereotypes, and it's not always true. I know a guy who's atleast 6' 5", jacked, and is a soldier of fortune

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 14:57

So due to the modifications of the truck you now need to slow down for every car waiting to pull into the street? I said they pull out unannounced meaning whether you could see the van or not you don't expect them to pull in front of you.

How about the build quality? I remember seeing a video of truck on OPPO go off a 1' jump and just completely collapse. Maybe that itsn't the typical for these trucks but there is no guarantee that the person modifying the truck had any idea of what they were doing past hold my beer while i attach this thing here.

I don't see anyone else on here trying to support that these trucks are safe. There are certainly people saying they can do it because that's their choice. But how many infractions do you think that truck have just standing still? Like most of the other people in this thread have said, that truck is a safety nightmare. If people want to do this to their trucks that's fine but they should with respect to the safety laws. Just like you shouldn't do 120 in the Ferrari on the street.

MountainCommand > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 15:06

Im not in ohio, but i understand geography plays a factor in whether or not i will see problems specifically from bro trucks.

# 1 has legitimate reason. But regardless of the type of car, the hit and run still could have happened. Driver stupidity is to blame there.

#2 i cant count being bro truck fault. Drunk driving is DD. I dont care what you drive, you are a F up if you drunk drive. Ive seen too many people i know get into DDing and it pisses me off that they could have killed not only themselves but someone else. No tolerance for DD.

Keep in mind the bro truck attracts a particular mindset of people. (thats a generalization but i apply it in the same way how Supercars attract a very 'colorful' spectrum of buyers. Again, thats generalizing but every car niche always has a negative side).

Within reason brings up another issue. If you limit them, you better be ready to limit our drift missles, classic cars, weekend racers, canyon carvers, rally crossers, in the same legal manner. The laws on the books are fine, they just need to be enforced.

Dont be afraid to say you can afford something. I dont see it as bragging. I see it as success! Success i one day hope to have in order to afford a bro truck haha.

I feel you have more of a problem with the people. Rather than the truck. The truck has done no harm, its only a machine. Its the people who drive them (and any car for that matter) that cause problems.

Im my personal experience, I have met lots and lots of Bro truck owners, and honestly they arent dbags that everyone makes them out to be. In my area, nearly all the bro truck owners are First responders and EMT's. So the Bro's are the ones saving lives! And id like to be on their good side if i ever would need their help. Especially if they had my life in their hands. I have much respect for those guys because its a job i could never handle. They are just crazy enough to do it though, and its almost a good feeling when i see them around. Because you know they can handle a medical emergency or situation.

Maybe just dont be too quick to judge. You will always hear about the loud mouths and do-wrongs. Life is too short to worry away over something as stupid as a lifted metal box.

Also, by your logic, im afraid to ask what you think about ricers! =P

signed, a honda owner.

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 15:18

Any modified vehicle could suffer from being modified. It isn't just trucks.

What if that minivan pulled in front of a train, does that make it the trains fault? No, it is whoever was driving the minivan, thankfully, the large truck is easier to spot then the tiny sports car.

I am supporting bro trucks in this case not because I am defending my ride (I drive a stock base impreza lol), not because I aspire to own one (I have a hard time justifying anything bigger than a wagon for my next purchase and I have a baby on the way, an 11 year old and two 80lb dogs I take everywhere.)

I am simply trying to destroy these walls that try to justify hating on a specific type of vehicle. Don't want a bro truck for yourself? Cool, they probably aren't for you anyway. Feel contempt and hatred every time you see one? Not cool, this puts you on par with a prius driver hating on anything that isn't green.

N/A POWAAAHH > MountainCommand
03/03/2014 at 15:23

Neither am I, just using opposite ends of the country. Fair enough, drivers usually have some fault in most situations. Well, I prefer that people wouldn't drive bashed up drift missiles on the street with parts falling off, and as long as classics are held up to a standard, I'm ok with it. canyon carvers, weekend racers, and rally crossers can kind of be lumped into one group, as it's mostly just wheels and suspension mods, but still, have to have some regulation.

That's probably it, my mind just associates the people with the vehicle, as a modified vehicle is supposed to be an extension of the self. Most EMTs drive muscle cars or stock pickups near me, so it's just a difference of culture.

I have to agree with that, it's just fun to vent sometimes. Yeah, not much nice things about ricers. I actually think I'm harsher on ricers that trucks, just because it's closer to what I drive.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Joe_Limon
03/03/2014 at 15:27

Man you should try reading what I write. I have no hate for these. I have a hate for people who ignore safety and are putting people in harms way which is my people with the truck.

MountainCommand > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 15:38

Im not a fan of the regulation so much beyond the critical safetey items. They are going bonkers with modern day safety crap imo... Its not helping anyone become more attentive and functional drivers. but thats another rant for another day lol.

Culture is a big thing too. But remember, from the bro trucks to the stancers, domestics vs euro, to the ricers and the donks, we are all playing for the same team. We all have bad apples, but lifes full of bad apples. I support anyone who has a liking towards anything automotive. Because the last thing we need is car culture disappearing.

Venting is good. I respect opinions and people who stand by opinions, for right or for wrong. Im not a ricer, but i always enjoy their presence, because they are like a rolling comedy club. Bringing humor to the serious world of cars.

But good ranting/counter ranting. At least we can sensibly debate the subject, so all is good.

Joe_Limon > OPPOsaurus WRX
03/03/2014 at 15:43

Much as the prius driver would say I have no problem with supercars/etc just with people who have no regard for the environment and use them as daily drivers.

N/A POWAAAHH > N/A POWAAAHH
03/03/2014 at 16:08

Philbert/Phartnagle > N/A POWAAAHH
03/04/2014 at 03:00

The door handles are most likely above head height, blood drain anyone? Next, how are you supposed to plant your ass in that seat?

That's what the little truck next to it is for?

It follows the lifted truck around so the lifted truck driver can use it to get into and out of his truck.