Management Styles

Kinja'd!!! "SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman" (dasborgen)
12/19/2014 at 10:48 • Filed to: None

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This is too damn true

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DISCUSSION (11)


Kinja'd!!! njp1589 > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/19/2014 at 11:06

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Yeah, this is pretty much spot on.

My company needs less people telling me what to do and more people actually fucking doing something.


Kinja'd!!! jariten1781 > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/19/2014 at 11:14

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No shit, when I was in the shipyard we had a fire across a bulkhead. Turned out the fire-watch guy was taking a nap. After a critique lead by an O-5 a fire-watch-watch was established (aka, a dude whose sole job it was to make sure the fire-watch guy was watching in case of a fire). A few weeks later, another fire...turned out the fire-watch and the fire-watch-watch decided to take a smoke break during grinding and cutting on the same damned panel. New critique, now lead by an O-6. A foreman level guy (don't remember the union paygrades) was assigned as a roving fire-watch-watch-watch.

It would have been hilarious if I didn't get stuck in like 80 hours (after shift) of critiques establishing the 'timeline' and 'motivation' and 'lack of training' that caused guys not to do their one trivial job.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > jariten1781
12/19/2014 at 11:25

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We have the same thing here, except it's software

A particular service was deployed without proper QA. This service is fucking BROKEN. So instead of fixing the service, the devs decide to create a scheduled task that will check the service and restart it when it breaks

Except the scheduled task only runs for a certain amount of time then it breaks too. So they created a service to check the scheduled task to make sure that it's checking the service in case it needs to be restarted in which case the scheduled task would restart it unless the scheduled task needed to be restarted then the service would restart it so that it could restart the service

This is what I live with erryday


Kinja'd!!! R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/19/2014 at 11:29

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Too true. The current generation of "leadership" in corporate America, and also in geopolitics, "If we lose we try harder doing the exact same steps as what caused us to lose and if we lose again, we quit and dispose of everything beneath the C-level."


Kinja'd!!! R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Nibbles
12/19/2014 at 11:31

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I am of confuse.

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Kinja'd!!! jariten1781 > Nibbles
12/19/2014 at 11:38

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Sounds like something I'd do at home because I'm lazy...not something I'd deploy on a paid job.


Kinja'd!!! Mosqvich > jariten1781
12/19/2014 at 11:38

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Or maybe they could've installed a fire and smoke detector? I'm an O-5, that's what I'd do.


Kinja'd!!! Birddog > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/19/2014 at 11:52

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That reminds me of how much better my life is since I left "middle management".


Kinja'd!!! jariten1781 > Mosqvich
12/19/2014 at 11:52

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Kind of hard if the hot-work is outside the hull.

The fire watches were basically human suppression systems since we didn't have any hotel services on line. Also, smoke detectors would be too late a lot of the time...boats in the yard like to go up like oil soaked rags.

These guys jobs were: Hold fire extinguisher. Spray anything that burns. That's it...kinda hard to fuck up.


Kinja'd!!! Mosqvich > jariten1781
12/19/2014 at 11:57

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Indeed! I'm AF, I'm always going to go for a high tech solution ;-)


Kinja'd!!! NJAnon > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
12/19/2014 at 19:30

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It's not as black and white as that person explains it, but yeah. We already know the problem, were looking for solutions.