This liberal's Chick-fil-A conundrum

"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein) 12/18/2014 at 11:34 • Filed to: None

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A couple weeks ago, we finally had a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . I was on the fence whether or not to eat there because !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , but I caved in a few days after they opened. But only because my gf and I were !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

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The next day, I mentioned in a meeting that I had gone to Chick-fil-A in spite of my dislike of their CEO's opinions on certain issues. Today, my boss gave me a holiday card with the $10 Chick-fil-A gift card above, and the comment, "I hope you can put aside your feelings for the Chick-fil-A CEO and have lunch on me!"

I suppose I'll be eating another of your chicken sandwiches (for free), you gay-hating prick.

EDIT: Apparently the guy has !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Of course, this part of the story got a whole lot less attention, and I didn't know about it. I suppose that's good enough for me.

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Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:36

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Just do what many of us conservatives do with the entertainment industry. Enjoy the product without judging the people who make it.

CalzoneGolem > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:36

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Just checking in to say you can be conservative and think he's a gay-hating prick.

505Turbeaux > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:37

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the politics suck, but those chicken sandwiches are bangin. If you saw where your dollars go for everything you buy on a daily basis but might be less vocal about it, you would be living off the grid and farming your own food before you got halfway down the list

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:39

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If there was a Chik-Fil-A in my area I would just go with this. Its a chicken sandwich, it has no political beliefs, because its a sandwich, its a corporation filled with thousands of people all of which have different beliefs.

If you like the chicken sandwich, eat the damn sandwich.

yamahog > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:39

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Never eaten there because (besides the high likelihood that my non-hetero heathen ass will probably be struck by lightning shortly after stepping inside) all I need in my life is another fast food chicken/sweet tea guilty pleasure. But a friend of mine in Chicago rationalizes his enjoyment with the knowledge that the owner of the local franchise publicly disagrees with the CEO's statements and makes large donations to LGBT causes, among others.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:41

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Chic-fil-a sauce will always outweigh one ignorant prick's point-of-view.

There are gay people who work at Chic-fil-a. Just because the CEO is a bigot in his personal views, doesn't mean you shouldn't eat there. If the company started discriminating against customers, then you'd have a legitimate reason to withhold your business from them.

Jcarr > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:42

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He may hold a viewpoint counter to yours, but I think closer inspection would reveal that he is not a "gay-hating prick."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-l-windme…

For Sweden > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:42

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American privilege is having an existential crisis over a free chicken sandwich.

Rainbow > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:43

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What pisses me off most is when people say they hate the company, but then they eat there regularly. I mean, sure their food is good, but really? I love those sandwiches, but I only ever eat there on my birthday, because they give it to me for free. And I can totally understand you going there since it's new to the area. But god damn it, people, if you REALLY care about this shit, you wouldn't eat there every damn weekend. It's like no one actually cares...

For Sweden > CalzoneGolem 12/18/2014 at 11:43

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No you can't. Why can't you just conform to the labels I apply to you already!?

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:44

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Might as well just eat what you like, because avoiding businesses based on political stance is going to end up leading to hypocrisy. Also, most CEOs are assholes. It's kind of in the job description. #notallceos

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 11:44

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Except for when those people use their excessive wealth to buy their opinion into politics, which is something that the owners of said establishment have done.

I do not agree with their stance, but they are entitled to have their own opinion about things. When they start forcing their opinion on others just because they have the means to do so is when I take issue and stop giving them more money to further their cause.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:45

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The amazing thing about American consumerism is that at the end of the line we truly don;t give a shit about our convictions and will accept service or goods from entities which we profess extreme distaste and hatred towards.

deekster_caddy > 505Turbeaux 12/18/2014 at 11:46

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This! The most amazing part of the food industry is how well they hide all the crap they do to your food...

Meatcoma > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:46

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Chick-fil-a's new mascot.

For Sweden > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 11:47

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But, what if the conspiracy theories are true, and the people in the media industry control the media? o_O

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > For Sweden 12/18/2014 at 11:48

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CalzoneGolem > For Sweden 12/18/2014 at 11:50

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Sorry, I have a non-adhesive coating.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > For Sweden 12/18/2014 at 11:50

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Because they have crappy adhesive and don't stick to Teflon(r)

spanfucker retire bitch > CalzoneGolem 12/18/2014 at 11:53

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But Calzones stick to everything!

CalzoneGolem > spanfucker retire bitch 12/18/2014 at 11:54

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It's a muthafuckin conundrum man!

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 12/18/2014 at 11:54

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The real problem here comes with mixing business/money and government. Expel the lobbyists.

VonBelmont > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:54

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Ironically, the local chick-fil-a's the #1 hangout for the gays at my school. Don't ask me how I know...

Frankly, politics and religion should not mix, and stay the hell outta my pants and my kitchen.

Textured Soy Protein > Jcarr 12/18/2014 at 11:54

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Well hey now, that article soothes my conscience, and should probably get more attention. Because most of the publicity about them (both negative and positive) is still about gay marriage. Go figure.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 11:57

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And then un-Elect Everyone!

spanfucker retire bitch > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 11:58

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Although I do try to avoid distasteful companies whenever and wherever I can (I'm looking at you Hobby Lobby, you fucks) if I refused service from every company/company CEO that I hated, I might as well just move to the mountains and live with the forest folk. I hate TWC and AT&T for their price gouging, anti-competitive behavior, lobbying bullshit and their hatred of net neutrality - but TWC is the only option in my entire area for broadband internet and AT&T is the only wireless carrier that a) supports my phone and b) actually has service where I live.

And then there's MS, long one of the prime examples of monopolistic behavior, but I have a desktop, a tablet and a phone that all run on MS software.

jariten1781 > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:01

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They have something like 2000 locations. If you take the demographics of their employee base you'll find it aligns with the rest of the country. The CEO is a very visible member, but it's not like everyone who works there is a brainwashed drone.

Just eat it.

Also, from all the tons of folks I know who worked in fast food through the years, Chick-fil-a was definitely touted as treating their employees the best (second would be Firehouse Subs).

If you really can't get over your hangup, but really just love the taste...it's just brined chicken. Soak some chicken breasts in pickle juice for a couple days and fry them for the same effect.

ly2v8-Brian > Jcarr 12/18/2014 at 12:01

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This is correct. But it doesn't fit with modern attitudes. You know, He is publically against the 'popular' opinion and is therefore practically Hitler.

Jcarr > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:02

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Yeah, chalk it up to media sensationalism. Two people with different viewpoints having a friendly, rational discussion, isn't nearly as newsworthy as "X hates Y!"

Now I'm hungry.

ly2v8-Brian > For Sweden 12/18/2014 at 12:02

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Western privilege is having an existential crisis over a free chicken sandwich.

FTFY

For Sweden > ly2v8-Brian 12/18/2014 at 12:03

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People in the west would eat beef, not this east-coast-hippie chicken crap.

ly2v8-Brian > For Sweden 12/18/2014 at 12:06

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Except for eating beef, nothing you said made sense. This place makes grilled and fried chicken, not very 'hippie'

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 12/18/2014 at 12:07

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And then unelect everyone you want.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 12:09

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What if I want them all out of office?

ttyymmnn > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:10

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Give the card to a homeless person.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 12/18/2014 at 12:15

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Then you can vote for all the someone elses, though they probably won't be much good, either.

The two-party system: forcing Americans to vote for the still-evil lesser of two evils since 1829!

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 12:19

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Can I benevolent dictator for a year or so? I'd get shit done I tell you.

TxBrumski > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:25

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Their sandwiches are good but their breakfast is the best of any fast-food joint. Try it! Their CEO could come out as being anti-everyone and have video records of him flinging kittens off of a cliff and I would STILL eat their chicken. How can you say no to chick-n-minis in the morning? Walt Disney was anti-semitic and Jews still watch his movies.

Jayhawk Jake > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:25

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Eh, just remember that his employees likely don't share his views and you're supporting them

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 12/18/2014 at 12:29

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Yeah, but you'd have to call yourself President, and the minimum is 4 years. Also, alot of people wouldn't like you for rolling through your to-do list without consulting them first.

RockThrillz89 > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:31

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You realize that you put yourself on his level when you name call. You mock and deride him for having a different opinion from you, just like he derides people who are different than him. His opinion is just a valid as yours. And he is not a lesser human or a more evil human just because he is against gay marriage, in the same way you are not a better or holier human for supporting gay marriage.

It takes all types to make the world go around. Jump on down off your high horse, either enjoy the food or don't and get on with your life. Save the politicking for Gawker.

Back on topic:

bbutle01 > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 12:56

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maybe we balance each other out. I'm conservative about most things and I really don't like Chick-fil-A. Dry sandwhich? No thanks. Guess what the closest place to my office to eat at is? yeah.

Textured Soy Protein > RockThrillz89 12/18/2014 at 12:58

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I am often intentionally ridiculous and hyperbolic, for sake of comedy.

Also, there's this part:

EDIT: Apparently the guy has backed off the whole gay marriage debate . Of course, this part of the story got a whole lot less attention, and I didn't know about it. I suppose that's good enough for me.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 12/18/2014 at 13:00

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Good. I don't want their input anyway.

My only agenda is to un-fuck as much as possible and put things in place to prevent it from happening again.

So, greedy corporate lobbyist scum, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. No, seriously, it's electrified and touching it will kill you. Also it's locked. And the walls are covered with metal spikes and the floor is lava. Good luck fuckers.

For Sweden > ly2v8-Brian 12/18/2014 at 13:25

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When was the last time you saw cowboys eating chicken?

BigBlock440 > RockThrillz89 12/18/2014 at 13:25

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I wish I was on his level

RockThrillz89 > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 13:47

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Respect. Remember though that being hyperbolic on the internet for the sake of comedy often falls flat, so if you're going to do it, expect people to not take it as such.

I read the edit before I posted the first time; still doesn't change my initial reaction to your post.

Textured Soy Protein > RockThrillz89 12/18/2014 at 13:57

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I think you're taking this all a bit too seriously.

RockThrillz89 > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 14:11

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Probably. But I fail to see anything but seriousness in you post. Then again, that could just me not being familiar with your style. You do you, dawg.

By the way, I'm not trying to sit here and argue with you about anything, so please don't think I am. You made a post, I commented my reaction to it. No harm intended.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 14:44

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Yeah but those waffle fries though. They're just the tits.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > Textured Soy Protein 12/18/2014 at 15:29

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One of the currently two Chick-Fil-A restaurants in downtown Chicago is two blocks from our place. Being from Alabama, this makes me very happy. The fact that the CEO, and Cathy family as a whole, are right wing nutjobs means I have been torn a time or two, but the food is just too good, and my occasional meal or two purchase is but a drop in their bucket. Plus the one by us here is owned by a woman who actually has spoken out against some of the Cathy family values. So there's that at least.

orcim > For Sweden 12/19/2014 at 00:51

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When they were hungry and didn't want to eat their profits?

For Sweden > orcim 12/19/2014 at 01:03

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They can buy cows wholesale; chicken would be at retail prices.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Textured Soy Protein 12/19/2014 at 20:23

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People don't seem to care enough about other things, like CEOs exploiting overseas labor. It would be nice if activists were at least consistent. Instead the guy boycotting Chic-fil-A is tweeting from his iPhone. But some asshole kicks his dog, and shit is now real. Think about that. N.I.M.B.Y. always wins.