I hate the Alfa Romeo 4C!

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 12/13/2014 at 18:39 • Filed to: None

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I really do!!

Nahh, just kidding, I love the little Alfa, but I have a problem with it, ok not really with it , but rather with Alfa and Fiat and Ferrari, so here's why.

The 4C, is inspired by the 33 Stradale, in both its packaging and its design. That's great, you'd say and in some aspects, it really is, but the 33 Stradale was a real supercar of its time. It would've taken the fight to Ferrari and others, and win.

And would've make the sculpting artists of the Renaissance, eat their hearts out.

I mean the 4C is like a cheesesteak and Mountain Dew, and that's pretty good, but the 33 is like Kobe beef and French champagne and that's....beter, a lot better.

And now to what grinds my gears. Alfa, or Maserati will never be allowed to achieve their maximum potential, never! Why? Well in part because Marchionne doesn't want brands overlapping and cannibalizing each other(even if works wonders for VAG, with Porsche, Audi and Lambo getting supercars that go after each other and many more combinations like that) and part because they don't want to hurt Ferrari's feelings. Remember how Ferrari blocked this Lancia, Pininfarina project?

Well, maybe the guy who replaces Marchionne from 2018-2019, has other ideas.

Steve in Manhattan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 18:50

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Much like Clarkson's point - the Boxster and Cayman will never be allowed to be better than a base 911, although I recall hearing recently that might not be the case anymore.

Manuél Ferrari > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 19:00

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This problem is going away

Eventually Ferrari will be owned by the Germans

This initial offering of only 10% of the shares is just to set the market price

FIAT will sell more shares later

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Manuél Ferrari 12/13/2014 at 19:09

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No it won't, when the secret VAG-Fiat, merger talks went public, Fiat shareholders wanted to sell everything but Ferrari.

Wait! What Germans?

Manuél Ferrari > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 19:13

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But then later FIAT announced the plans to spin off 10% of Ferrari.

I of course don't know for sure what will happen. But I swear ze Germans will eventually own everything.

Eventually there will just be VAG and Toyota

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Steve in Manhattan 12/13/2014 at 19:15

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Well, Porsche probably understood that they go after different buyers and let them be.

aquila121 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 19:26

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Ferrari is dead to me after nixing the 430-turned-Stratos re-imagining.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > aquila121 12/13/2014 at 19:31

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Ferrari said that you weren't in their target market, either, lol.

I like the Lancia too, would've looked greatin FRB.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Manuél Ferrari 12/13/2014 at 19:50

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Doubt it, Ferdinand Piëch is not the kind of guy who buys 10% out of anything, he buys the whole thing or doesn't buy at all. Ending up in bed with the Italians, for just 10% doesn't fit his Dr. Evil image.

Steve in Manhattan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 20:11

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I've driven a mid-90s 911 and a mid-ish 2000s Boxster and, even with AWD, I'm thinking I'd buy a loaded Boxster before a 911 if I had to have a Porsche.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Steve in Manhattan 12/13/2014 at 20:45

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Shut up and get the Cockster, because coupe.

aquila121 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 20:58

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You're not wrong, as I could never afford one of their cars. But c'mon, don't kill a beautiful car just because you didn't design it yourself, Ferrari.

Steve in Manhattan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 23:29

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Eh - I've said before in this space that if forced into a 911 it would be the Targa. Was driven in one back in ... early 90s? Such a happy little car - take the roof off for fun, put it back for weather. AWD Targa in that yellow, if anyone's buying.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 12/13/2014 at 23:52

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CEASE THE CLICKBAIT.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 12/14/2014 at 13:44

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El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > aquila121 12/14/2014 at 16:19

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Well, don't worry, I can buy a new Ferrari, probably the F12, if I sell everything I own, everything my parents own, stop paying the rent to my apartment and give up a kidney or so. Getting serious, Ferrari didn't had a problem with the Stratos because Pininfarina did it, as Pininfarina designed many of their cars. Ferrari had a problem with it, because it's a Lancia, and same said that it was faster than the car it was based on(and dangerously close to the the 458), so Ferrari, in Luca's era, couldn't stand a challenge for a brand within its group, that's almost dead.