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Kinja'd!!! "Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!" (patrickgruden)
12/10/2014 at 11:22 • Filed to: None

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We did this before I think (probably a few times). What are some automotive opinions that you just don't agree with?

I've got a bunch, here are a couple.

Most people seem to think that Toyotas are boring and beige.

My truth is that they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be. Are there more engaging vehicles out there? I'm sure there are. But, I think Toyotas excel at what they're meant to do. Provide decent transportation at a low cost. I've driven some modern Toyotas I don't find them any worse than any other modern car I've driven in a similar class. Depending on how you drive it, a Toyota can be fun. Even a Corolla. My wife's Corolla I actually don't mind driving. The only thing wrong with it is it's just a little lacking in legroom.

Another statement that I just can't agree with are Alfa's are beautiful cars.

I don't think I've EVER seen an Alfa design that I actually like. That stupid trademark grille just looks dumb on everything they put it on. I just don't get what people's obsession is with these cars. To me they're some of the ugliest cars on the road.


DISCUSSION (43)


Kinja'd!!! For Sweden > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:27

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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/oppinions-rank…


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:28

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I think turbos are a crutch. THERE I SAID IT


Kinja'd!!! yamahog > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:28

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Basically any armchair engineering or industry speculation from people who clearly are not engineers or involved in the auto industry makes me roll my eyes. There's a reason we don't "just do it that way!"


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:29

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The Mustang is crap, always has been, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

The Hellcat is stupid. Oh, you've put a big engine in a mediocre family car? Good for you, Dodge. Way to show how far you've come.

Power numbers are meaningless.

0-60 times are meaningless.

Weight and chassis configuration are everything.


Kinja'd!!! Funktheduck > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:30

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I had a corolla. I'm pretty sure they test fit the drivers seat using apes. Either the steering wheel is too far away or the pedals are too close. I never got a good position. Ever since I got my 3 my neck/back problems are mostly gone. I don't know if it's from better seats or better driving position.

For auto opinions I don't agree with I'll have to say: Ferrari in general. I don't think they're what everyone hypes them to be. There is not a single modern Ferrari I want to own. Drive? Absolutely. Own? No. I would take a modern Porsche or Lamborghini any day over a modern Ferrari. I also think Ferrari red is over rated. I think every Ferrari looks better in any other color.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 11:33

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Fuck you and the couch you rode in on

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Kinja'd!!! E. Julius > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:33

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Well I've always thought the current generation of Mercedes' SL is quite the looker, but I saw a post about it somewhere and I guess LOTS of people disagree with me. Didn't know that.

Also, I think automatic seat belts are the shit.


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Funktheduck
12/10/2014 at 11:34

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I guess it depends on how tall or big you are. I just wish there was more room side to side in particular in the Corolla. When I had a Mazda 3 (assuming that's the 3 you're referring to) had excellent seats. I never took it on any long trips, but I don't think I would hesitate to do so either.

And I'm 100% with you on the Ferrari. I don't think I've liked a single Ferrari design since the 80's. Ferrari's look so much better in black. Or white.


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:35

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Let me elaborate: I think turbos on small displacement engines are a wasted opportunity for a 6.2l Turbocharged Hemi V8 Monster Engine swap. I think COMMON after market applications of turbos are a crutch


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:37

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The Aztek wasn't crap. If it was, we wouldn't have had the copycats. It basically started the whole "sports crossover" thing. Okay, points deducted for the latter, but still

There is replacement for displacement. Especially when you live at elevation

Front wheel drive is not wrong


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:37

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Cars I Like:

Acura ZDX.

Pontiac Aztec.

Hondas.

Most Toyotas.

I don't much care for the Miata, FiST, or FoST.

Turbochargers are for the weak.

I hate Ferrari.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 11:38

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Aftermarket applications maybe

You cannot deny the advantages of synthetic atmosphere generation, especially when living/driving between 6,000 and 12,000 ft.


Kinja'd!!! Captain of the Enterprise > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:39

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Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:40

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Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:40

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Oh I completely can see the benefits up here in the rockies. But I think people need to stop Turboing every thing for economy or to make their corolla "fast" and I use that term loosely


Kinja'd!!! WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:41

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Came here to post similar Aztek sentiments.


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:42

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I actually dig the Aztek. Everyone else thinks I'm nuts though. Then again, I drove a Nissan cube, so take my opinion for what it's worth.


Kinja'd!!! DoYouEvenShift > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:42

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Agree with the aztek comment.

But there is no replacement for displacement. Boost is a substitute, a very good one. But still. And believe me, I know what you mean about high altitude.


Kinja'd!!! TheJWT > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:42

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Old Porsches are the most over-hyped cars in existence.

Also, there isn't a car made in the last 10 years that I'd buy. (The only exception being maybe a 1M)


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:43

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I used to (happily) sell Azteks. I was there at the launch. They were pretty awesome actually


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 11:44

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NO, NO. None of those do anything for me.


Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > TheHondaBro
12/10/2014 at 11:48

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Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 11:48

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Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > DoYouEvenShift
12/10/2014 at 11:50

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I disagree, but respect, your opinion. Where you see a substitute, I see a replacement. Synthetic atmosphere is awesome when there's so little of it up here :)


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 11:51

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Don't be judging.

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Kinja'd!!! Sn210 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:51

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Automatics are ok

Fwd is ok

I don't want a Miata

Most Mustangs and Corvettes make me go "meh"


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 11:51

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I have a few words:

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Chew on that for a bit


Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 11:55

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Kinja'd!!! DoYouEvenShift > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 11:56

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No biggie, I looove FI myself. Only reason I say that is, say you go from a 5.3 V8 to a 6.0 V8, you will make more power for obvious reasons everything else staying equal. But there are waaay to many variables to get into it. I currently live, where in the summer, the DA altitude gets well into the 5k range. Working on finding a nice place along the coast though. Sea level here I come.


Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 12:01

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I also have a few words:

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Embrace your boosted overlords.


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 12:01

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I have 2 words in response to that:

Needless Complication.


Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 12:04

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I have one word to rebut your two words:

BOOST


Kinja'd!!! Funktheduck > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 12:13

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Yup. Mazda. Their seats keep getting better. I thought my gf 2012 was good but a little lacking on really long drives. My current gen are near perfect for me.

There's a dark blue I sometimes see that I like a lot too. It's a shame that having a Ferrari not in red brings down the value despite red being the most common.


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 12:16

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That Rebut is insufficient


Kinja'd!!! Funktheduck > Nibbles
12/10/2014 at 12:18

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After driving a 94 Saturn across the country and back I agree. We stopped in flagstaff to get the car checked out because we thought the clutch was going out. The mechanic came back and told us the clutch was fine and our problem was we were driving a car with under 100 hp at sea level and now we were a mile above.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Funktheduck
12/10/2014 at 12:19

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I lived, in Denver, with a 122hp automatic Focus. After losses, I was putting maybe 66hp down. When taking a jaunt up the twisties? Probably got as low as 50.


Kinja'd!!! Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
12/10/2014 at 12:28

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Fine, I'll use more:

Weight savings. Torque band. Off-throttle fuel savings. Spool noise. Smaller packaging. Tuning Potential. Power at altitude. Anti-lag. F40. 959. P1. One to one.


Kinja'd!!! Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
12/10/2014 at 13:00

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I guess weight savings is an acceptable reason to turbo


Kinja'd!!! TDogg > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 13:59

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I like my Prius.

*dons flamesuit*


Kinja'd!!! Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > TDogg
12/10/2014 at 14:12

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Given your name, I just had an image of this guy driving a Prius

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I don't think I'd have too much of an issue driving a Prius. In fact, the last new vehicle I bought I considered a Prius C, but ultimately went in another direction.

For 98% of my driving a Prius would work fine. Is it a fun car? Probably not. But if you really need a fun car get a second one you can tool around in on the weekends.


Kinja'd!!! space_captain_steve > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 14:54

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Giant daily driven cars for the work-commute. Crossovers, Bro Dozers, Range Rovers, oh my! Might not be an unpopular opinion here, but it's certainly unpopular out there in the real world, where 99% of drivers are mentally challenged.

"But I feel safer in a big car" *takes out phone and starts texting*


Kinja'd!!! TDogg > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 15:00

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That's what I'm looking into for once I sell my truck. Although, the Prius is fun to thrash mildly because it's just so wrong.


Kinja'd!!! Axial > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
12/10/2014 at 17:06

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Here are some opinions I disagree with:

The E-Type is a pretty car

General Motors is on a comeback

The previous gen Mustang is the best-looking retro styled muscle car

The current gen Mustang looks good

The C7 Stingray is a radical departure from previous versions

Wagons are awesome

Hatchbacks are awesome

Four-bangers are cool

Real cars must have manual transmissions

Real drivers must prefer manual transmissions