"KatzManDu" (KatzManDu)
12/03/2014 at 09:45 • Filed to: None | 0 | 7 |
I won't be able to afford a second car until spring of 2015, but that doesn't mean I can't waste time at work looking at car ads. I'm also adding in my other dream car, now.
After selling my E39 M5 in the states and moving over to Belgium I wouldn't mind having another one. Because we are a one-car family right now, we went with the most cost-effective station wagon we could find, a 2200 Euro MY2002 520d (look at my other postings for photos, etc.) But, while looking at ads and looking at the car tables and formulas for taxes I found the following. The 9000 Euro 320si costs less than the 2000 M5.
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> KatzManDu
12/03/2014 at 09:48 | 1 |
That... actually makes sense.
bob and john
> KatzManDu
12/03/2014 at 09:52 | 0 |
its that the standard fair?
Cé hé sin
> KatzManDu
12/03/2014 at 10:09 | 0 |
Yes, that follows. If the car is a high CO2/high fiscal CV one it's value is going to be less and conversely people will pay more for a low CO2/low CV one.
KatzManDu
> Cé hé sin
12/03/2014 at 10:22 | 0 |
I figured that out :) ... but, what is the difference between "fiscal CV" and regular horsepower "CV"?
Cé hé sin
> KatzManDu
12/03/2014 at 12:03 | 0 |
Voila, but it seems to be different for larger engines: (for smaller ones divide the capacity in cc by 200 and add 1)
"Je confirme qu'en Belgique cela dépend de la cylindrée de l'auto.
Un truc facile est de diviser la cylindrée par 200 puis de rajouter 1 (ou 0,5 si on arrive à un chiffre qui se termine par ,5) et on obtient le nombre de CV fiscaux (ce truc fonctionne jusqu'à une certaines cylindrée, sur les "gros" moteurs cela ne fonctionne plus)
Par exemple pour une cylindrée de 1900 cm³ :
1900 : 200 = 9,5
9,5 + 0,5 = 10 CV fiscaux
Pour une cylindrée de 1400 cm³ :
1400 : 200 = 7
7 + 1 = 8 CV fiscaux"
Fiscal CV has nothing do do with CV/BHP
KatzManDu
> Cé hé sin
12/03/2014 at 13:54 | 0 |
OK, good to know. So how does that work for the 4941cc V8 in the M5?
KatzManDu
> Cé hé sin
12/03/2014 at 14:04 | 0 |
OK, so I found the French calculations. I figure the Belgians do it identically. At least that's a guess, since I'm in Wallonia.
URL with info is here: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/ind…
FWIW, the French fiscal rating is calculated thus:
Pa = (CO2/45) + (P/40) x 1.6
Ou la puissance fiscale dépend de la valeur normalisée d'émission de dioxyde de carbone (CO2) en grammes/km et de la puissance maximale du moteur en Kw.
So for my Legacy, that's:
Power = 121 Kw (= 164.4 CH)
Co2 = 198 g/km
= (198/45) + (164.4/40) x 1.6
= 4.4 + 6.576 = 10.976
So the car is rated 11CV
For my hypothetical 2000 M5... oy.
It's 329 /45 = 7.3; (400/40) * 1.6 ... so 7.1 + 16 = 23/24 (you round up.) So that's like €2400.