The Opposite Lock Fourza Trans-Am Series Information and Sign-Up Post

"SVTyler" (svtyler) 12/23/2014 at 18:00 • Filed to: Fourza, Forza, Forza 4

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Our Forza 4 GT car season is in the books so we're starting a few new series with vintage Trans-Am cars! New night and new time (Saturdays at 4:15pm EST starting the 27th) so hopefully we can as many people as possible racing!

Like our GT series and the Le Mans race, these series will be coordinated by yours truly so any and all questions should be sent my way. The two seasons, one with A550 Trans-Am muscle and pony cars, and one with B450 Two-Five Challenge cars, will run concurrently on alternating Saturdays (B450 starts 12/27 followed by the A550 series a week later). I'll be posting about them pretty regularly and tagging all relevant posts with 'Fourza' so it'll be easier to both find and be given information. Now, on to the details...

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- Please read the following rules carefully to ensure the car you bring is legal, otherwise the lobby settings might not let you use it.

- Must be an American, front-engine/rear-wheel drive, V8-powered muscle or pony car built between 1965 and 1973.

- The list of eligible cars is as follows:

AMC - 1971 Javelin-AMX

Buick - 1970 GSX

Chevrolet - 1969 Camaro Z/28, 1966 Nova SS, 1969 Camaro SS, 1970 Chevelle SS, 1970 Nova SS, 1970 Camaro Z/28, 1967 Chevelle SS

Dodge - 1969 Charger, 1970 Challenger, 1969 Charger Daytona, 1970 Coronet Super Bee

Ford - 1965 Mustang, 1970 Boss 429, 1971 Mustang Mach 1, XB Falcon

Mercury - 1970 Cougar Eliminator

Oldsmobile - 1969 442

Plymouth - 1968 Barracuda Formula-S, 1971 GTX, 1971 Cuda

Pontiac - 1965 GTO, 1973 Firebird Trans-Am, 1968 Firebird, 1969 GTO Judge, 1969 Firebird Trans-Am

Shelby - 1968 GT500KR, 1969 GT500

- Cannot be any of the following cars: Pacer, Gremlin, Impala, Corvette (not muscle/pony cars), Corvair (not V8, not front-engined), Dart Hemi Superstock, Coronet W023, Fairlane Thunderbolt (too far above PI limit using mandatory upgrades), El Camino (not a car, sorry Kampf).

- These car will be built to a starting PI of 550 using the mandatory upgrades listed below, this way the racing will be as close as possible and no one can download crazy overpowered A600 storefront tunes. Group J ran a series like this back in the day and it seemed to work pretty well so figure we best not mess with something that isn't broken.

- In order to mitigate the extremely varied lap times we had in our GT series we will have balance-of-performance adjustments this time around. The process for assigning BoP adjustments is as follows: I post a middle-of-the-pack time in one of my pre-race threads in the week leading up to the race, you guys build your car to A550 specifications (using the mandatory upgrades below) and do a few laps. If you're faster than that target time, remove some upgrades (beginning with tire width and compound which will neuter the faster drivers' cars in the corners without putting them down on power in the straights), and if you're slower, add some until you meet (but not exceed) that time. Simple enough, right?

- While storefront tunes aren't allowed, custom tunes are encouraged. If you don't tune cars yourself we have several racers in our GT series who do (TheVancen and Cherry_man1 being a few) and I bet if you ask nicely they'll help you out.

- Custom liveries not required but we do ask that you put some kind of number plate on (a black digit inside a white circle, as seen above, will do perfectly). It would be awesome, however, to get the entire field in full vintage liveries. Just saying.

Mandatory Upgrades*:

- To ensure parity among the cars, all the following upgrades are initially required (see below where the majority of the eligible cars lapped within about a second of each other at Mugello, and keep in mind those times are in a different order than the car list above so don't get clever trying to figure out which one's the fastest right out of the box). Like I said above, build your car to these specs first, then from there start dialing in your car to match the lap times.

- Only the stock motor can be used and can only be tuned using upgrades in the 'Engine and Power' section, no engine swaps or aspiration conversions.

- All platform and handling and tire upgrades excluding front and rear anti-roll bars are required; this means fully upgraded race brakes, springs/dampers, chassis reinforcement/roll cage, and weight reduction, as well as max tire width and racing slicks on all four corners. This way no one can just throw massive HP numbers at their car and murder everyone else on the straights like people do in online lobbies and it'll leave some engine upgrades left for the BoP adjustments.

- While not required, race anti-roll bars are highly suggested for tuning reasons. You can actually take quite a bit of time off your lap with minimal effort and the bars are a big factor in that.

- Figure most people will be using custom rims so they're required too. Must be 15" and no DUBS or anything to game the PI system, your rim selection can only increase PI.

- Six-speed race gearbox mandatory. Clutch, driveline, and differential upgrades are not required, though the diff is suggested for those of you who actually know how to tune.

- Front Forza race bumper required. Rear wing optional but again encouraged for tuning reasons.

- Any remaining PI points can be added using engine/trans/aero upgrades of your choice. Apart from engine swaps and aspiration conversions everything's fair game so get creative with your setup.

- If you want to use the Charger Daytona, Coronet Super Bee, or 1970 Cuda: all three are over A550 with all required upgrades so if you want to use them do the following: no engine modifications, all platform and handling upgrades, racing gearbox, racing slicks/rims, then add tire width until you reach 550. They're only like 5 or 6 PI over so the second- or third-largest tire widths should get you there.

* The mandatory upgrades are final and non-negotiable because they (theoretically, at least) make the racing is as close as possible. Thanks for understanding.

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B450 CAR RULES AND SPECIFICATIONS

To keep this page from being a complete clusterfuck the B450 information page can be found !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! That series has almost the exact same rules as the A550 one, just a few differences here and there.

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RACE INFO

Time:

- Sunday at 9pm didn't seem like a very good time for a lot of people due to school or work or whatever so this year we're starting our races at around 4:15pm EST on Saturdays (maybe a bit later, depends on if we have lobby issues and when people get home from work). As you'll see, we'll be visiting many of the same tracks that we raced at in our GT series but due to the lower performance of the Trans-Am cars races will last a few less laps. Race lengths should still be around 45-50 minutes, with shorter tracks like Laguna Seca and Infineon taking a bit less than that.

- Depending on feedback, I was hoping to have a longer endurance race at either Le Mans or Sunset Peninsula (a stand-in for the 24 Hours of Daytona) and maybe the Nurburgring for the season finale. We can discuss these options closer to the aforementioned races.

Assists and Damage:

- We won't disallow any assists in the race options but be advised learning to drive without them can actually make you faster. It takes like two hours to learn to drive without traction control and a day to get completely used to no ABS, both of which can take a bunch of time off your lap.

- Damage and fuel and tire wear will be set to cosmetic only. Please don't take this as an invitation to play bumper cars with your fellow racers, contact is to be avoided at all costs.

Grid Ordering:

- Starting order will be randomized to add another variable to the competition. Want to win? Fight your way to the front, it's that simple.

Scoring:

- These will be points-based championship series. Scoring is as follows: 16pts for 1st, 15pts for 2nd, 14pts for 3rd, 13pts for 4th, and so on, with 16th receiving 1pt. In the event we don't have 16 racers we will score to the lowest position (e.g., 12 people so last place gets 5pts). DNF's will be counted as your final finishing position so if you get disconnected or have to leave suddenly you'll still get some points just for showing up.

- I'll keep track of your points totals on a handy-dandy Excel spreadsheet so you don't have to do anything beyond showing up on Saturdays. Whoever finishes with the most points at the end of the season will be awarded the prestigious Microsoft Paint-sponsored Oppo Trans-Am Series Trophy, one of the A550 cars and one for the B450 series:

Race Schedule:

- There will be twelve rounds in each series, with points races for each individual series taking place every two weeks. That means there'll be a race every weekend all the way into June when we organize another 24 Laps of Le Mans (damn right we're doing that again). The schedule for both series is as follows:

12/27: Sebring - 12 laps (B450)

1/3: Sebring - 18 laps (A550)

1/10: Laguna Seca - 18 laps (B450)

1/17: Laguna Seca - 20 laps (A550)

1/24: TBD - ? laps (B450, no idea if you guys wanna do Le Mans in these cars)

1/31: Le Mans - 10+ laps (?) (A550)

2/7: Infineon - 16 laps (B450)

2/14: Infineon - 20 laps (A550)

2/21: Road Atlanta - 18 laps (B450)

2/28: Road Atlanta - 20 laps (A550)

3/7: Mugello - 14 laps (B450)

3/14: Mugello - 20 laps (A550)

3/21: Sunset Peninsula Raceway (reverse) - 16 laps (B450)

3/28: Sunset Peninsula Raceway (reverse) - 20+ laps (?) (A550)

4/4: Suzuka- 14 laps (B450)

4/11: Suzuka- 18 laps (A550)

4/18: Indianapolis Motor Speedway - 18 laps (B450)

4/25: Indianapolis Motor Speedway - 20 laps (A550)

5/2: Circuit de Catalunya - 14 laps (B450)

5/9: Circuit de Catalunya - 20 laps (A550)

5/16: Road America - 12 laps ( B450)

5/23: Road America - 18 laps (A550)

5/30: Nordschleife - 3 laps (B450)

6/6: Nordschleife - 5+ laps (?) (A550)

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I'll be the first to admit our GT series races were not very close (and thus a bit boring) at times and truth be told I feel pretty bad for the few people showed up for one race and got scared away because they just weren't fast enough to compete with the front-runners. Sorry if all these rules seem complicated or I'm being a control freak but but all these rules and regulations are there for a reason: to create as competitive and fun of a racing series for everyone regardless of skill level.

If you're thinking about racing with us but are concerned about how fast (or slow) you may be, please try out the first few events to get a handle on the series as a whole. Like I said this series is designed to bring down the standard deviation among participants and using lower-class cars like these actually nerfs the skill disparity pretty well; for example, me and TheVancen were nearly four seconds apart per lap on Road America in GT cars but there was only about a second difference using our Trans-Am cars. We'll bring you up to speed as quickly as we can with those balance-of-performance adjustments if need be.

Everyone who participates in these series is going to have to be OK with the fact that contact will happen no matter how hard we all try to avoid it. Having the cars be as fair as they are means you'll constantly be in traffic and battling for position and a bit of rubbing will be inevitable, as will more serious incidents. There will be races where you'll get knocked off track or spun out by no fault of your own and you'll end up finishing in the back of the pack that week; anyone who's raced online will know that's just a part of the game and these series will be no exception.

Finally, in the event that there is contact causing one or more vehicles to leave the track, the aggressor should, if able to, pull off to the side and wait for the other driver/drivers to rejoin the race before getting back on track themselves. The idea is basically that if you cause a wreck you shouldn't benefit from it. I mean, we can't exactly enforce this and there's no reason for you to do any of that apart from common decency but still...

Alright, that's it for the important bits. Few things for you to do now: let us know below if you're interested so we can get an idea of how many people want to join, bookmark this page and the Two-Five post, go build some cars, and get some laps in. These are going to be two competitive series and you're going to need all the practice you can get. Like I said, the first couple races should sort out any teething issues we have in regards to overall speed and competitiveness so if you want to race just do it man, between our GT series and the Le Mans race last June we've had so much great racing with fellow Opponauts and these series should be even better.

VERY IMPORTANT: if you're interested in this series but not in our Fourza car club, please be sure to mention that when you reply below with your gamertag and we'll add you. We send out lobby invites on race day via the car club screen so if you aren't in it or on our friends list you may not get an invite. On a related note, Fourza's online system sometimes eats invites so if you're in the club and don't receive an invite just reply to any of my posts and I'll get you into the lobby. I check notifications every minute or so leading up to green flag.

wrblue11 > SVTyler 12/10/2014 at 15:10

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im in, gamer tag the11firm

Viggen > SVTyler 12/21/2014 at 22:11

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I'm in. Naturally.

#15 '71 Cuda

#4 Porsche 914-6 (in Gulf!)

Viggen > Viggen 12/21/2014 at 23:06

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Er, #15 Javelin

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:19

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Duh, I'll be there #13 Chevelle.

camaroboy68ss > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:19

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I m in, had a blast in the testing after the GT race

Decay buys too many beaters > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:20

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I'm interested, gamertag decay107

I'm not very good , but I'll give it a shot.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:20

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im interested. I cldnt do it before cause i work early and go to bed sundays

just curious, why no abs? that just to make it time period correct?

briannutter1 > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:24

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Hey there, I'm not normally free Sat afternoon but will try my best. Gamertag Aromaticbeast20. What's the best way to find and join the car club?

Axel-Ripper > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:31

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Fourza? Why not Fiveza?

RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:42

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I'm in for the A550 series. Sweet, sweet V8 goodness.

- In order to mitigate the extremely varied lap times we had in our GT series we will have balance-of-performance adjustments this time around. Those adjustments will be assigned by either me or TheVancen and the plan so far is to either run the first race with everyone at A550 or hold a preseason practice session and from there assign BoP adjustments for the next race based on lap times. What'll probably happen is we'll decide a cut-off point where the dudes slower than that time get to add like 10PI or whatever. In the event that our first adjustments aren't enough we'll keep adding PI until your car is competitive, no worries about being left behind.

Can I just add that I really like the idea of this version of BoP adjustments? Of boosting the other guys to give them a fighting chance? My previous experiences with balancing performance have always essentially been "punish the winner". It just loses all fun when you're being forced to drive a completely neutered car. Granted, this is probably a lot easier to manage with lower class cars than R-class cars...

Also, you forgot to add that you're accepting the Ford XB Falcon GT.

Tohru > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:45

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I'm in, even if you won't let me run the King Cobra (My Mustang II is too a real muscle car).

I'll build... something. Not sure what.

Viggen > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 12/23/2014 at 18:48

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No ABS is more competitive and produces faster laps.

Viggen > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 18:49

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My original post got greyed. But yeah I'm in and sold on the Javelin.

Viggen > RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" 12/23/2014 at 19:38

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You mean the Falcon-Torino thing

RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" > Viggen 12/23/2014 at 20:12

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Yes, the Falcon-Torino thing.

ly2v8-Brian > Axel-Ripper 12/23/2014 at 20:16

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because we are poor college students.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 20:29

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I'm at a loss here, a GT500KR with the mandatory upgrades sits at 555, unless I messed something up?

SVTyler > briannutter1 12/23/2014 at 20:30

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I'll send a club invite later tonight and it should pop up with a notification when you log on to Fourza. Accept it and that's all you need to do.

SVTyler > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/23/2014 at 20:32

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...You sure man? I have one built at 550, did you do clutch, flywheel, driveline, or any other optional upgrades?

SVTyler > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 12/23/2014 at 20:36

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ABS is allowed, as are all other assists (stability control, auto transmission, traction control, etc.).

SVTyler > Decay buys too many beaters 12/23/2014 at 20:37

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I'll send out an invite later tonight man, be on the lookout.

SVTyler > RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" 12/23/2014 at 20:40

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Tbh, BoP adjustments might have to go both ways depending on how fast everyone else is. Like you and me could have to take a couple tire widths down as well as giving other people power bumps but like you said I really don't want to have to do that. We'll see man.

P5guy now GTIguy > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 20:49

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is it okay of some of the races are missed? My GT is Darkslayer6368 by the way.

SVTyler > P5guy now GTIguy 12/23/2014 at 20:58

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Yeah, that's no biggie. Most everyone in the GT series missed a race or two anyways, life and school and work happens. I'll get an invite to the car club sent out later tonight so be on the lookout for that.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 21:31

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I did all platform and handling.

SVTyler > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/23/2014 at 21:38

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Did you do an engine swap or something or forget about it? Cuz I have all platform and handling upgrades, race trans and clutch, and race valves and pistons for the engine upgrades and it's right at 550.

roflcopter > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 21:59

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So if I manage to have a few bucks left over I'll have Live again after the holidays, and I definitely want to be a part of all this, but can't say for sure yet.

I just built an A550 car that meets all of the requirements and I was wondering if anyone wanted to share their laptimes on Sebring just so I know if I'm even in the right ballpark... I've never done any online racing, just with my friends when we all sit around at my place.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 22:03

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Aha!! I had a supercharger on!! -_-

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 22:22

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Gotcha i think i just misread it.

Also my GT is flyingWaffleIron. Im a part of the oppo club tho. I cant guarantee ill make every race tho

SVTyler > roflcopter 12/23/2014 at 22:28

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Sebring was in the 2:27ish range iirc, somewhere around there at least.

SVTyler > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time 12/23/2014 at 22:34

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No worries, I don't think anyone made all the races for the GT series, life and school and stuff takes precedence over any of this so it's all good.

IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 22:47

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I'm in but I probably won't make all of them. Also for the car #'s are we just making them up?

SVTyler > IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda 12/23/2014 at 23:00

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Yeah, whatever number you want is fine, we don't have a system or anything.

SVTyler > P5guy now GTIguy 12/23/2014 at 23:09

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Hey man, tried to send you an invite but it said that you haven't played Fourza yet?

roflcopter > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 23:11

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Alright! I won't be completely spit out the back then. I hope I can make it into all of this, racing real people would be quite fun.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 23:20

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You know I'll be there in my Mach 1. As often as I can.

In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 23:48

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Oh. I will be starting the OPPO Happenings for GTAO XBONE along with FH2 XBONE. I will be getting one for Christmas so message me @: eg WheelsOnABus

That's Engineering? > SVTyler 12/23/2014 at 23:57

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As per usual, I'll try and play, but, as I've stated, my internet at my college apartment is terrible (which is only half the reason why I spend way too much time in my lab). I just wish I could have raced more in the GT series... I remember 2 out of the first 4 races ended up with a last lap dual between me and another racer for the win... Then my internet attacked...

That's Engineering? > That's Engineering? 12/24/2014 at 00:01

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Duel*

SVTyler > That's Engineering? 12/24/2014 at 00:17

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The Sebring race where you and me went down to the wire was my favorite race of the series man. We'd love to have you back if you can.

That's Engineering? > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 00:24

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Yeah that really was a great race! I swear we were never more than 2 seconds apart for the whole thing, and we had to have traded the lead about once every lap for the final five or so. That was a ton of fun. Hopefully the internet will get better (though I'm not holding my breath). Like I said, I'll see what I can do, but it may not be until this summer that I can really get back into it.

P5guy now GTIguy > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 01:11

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Thats odd, I'll add you on xbl and we can go from there. Thanks a lot

ly2v8-Brian > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/24/2014 at 02:29

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think you can help me tune the chevelle? I want to shave a couple seconds off my average times. Maybe then I can bring it back to 552. I try switching between manual and automatic but it doesn't seem to make much difference at all.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 02:30

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where'd you set those lap times? I want to fall in with those.

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian 12/24/2014 at 03:03

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Mugello. Honestly man I'd say you're set as is, no one's going to get close to those times in the actual race, they're about a second faster than anything I did in our lobbies.

Rock Bottom > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 03:17

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SpeedQuarantine may have to come out of Fourza retirement to teach you whippersnappers a lesson or three!

SVTyler > Rock Bottom 12/24/2014 at 06:41

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We'll be glad to have you man!

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > ly2v8-Brian 12/24/2014 at 08:43

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sure. I'll see what I can do once im off work at six

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 10:06

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 I'm just being a bit competitive, unlike the last series I'd like to challenge for a win once.

ly2v8-Brian > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/24/2014 at 10:08

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Thanks man.

Autofixation > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 11:32

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I would like to sign up for both series, but I work until 4 on Saturdays and it takes me 25 minutes to get home... 4:30? Pretty please?

Hey Julie > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 11:42

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I want in!!! GT heinousbuffalo

SVTyler > Autofixation 12/24/2014 at 13:28

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Well, main reason it's at 4 is because me and Wrath work at 6, any way you can switch shifts with someone or something? We could maybe move it back to 5 after Christmas break but no promises. Really sorry if it doesn't work out dude, 4 seemed like the best time; no one doing homework, no one having to get up early the next day for work or school, church, whatever.

Autofixation > SVTyler 12/24/2014 at 23:56

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Nope, can't switch shifts. There are only two of us in my department and we both work open to close on saturday. Oh well. I will wait and see if you decide to move it after christmas break.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > ly2v8-Brian 12/25/2014 at 00:12

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LOL. Suppose i should have checked to see if I had the car downloaded before you sent it! Well, now I have almost all the car packs... No more baloney like with that Corvette I was supposed to tune for some one for the LeMans race.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 12/25/2014 at 00:14

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Is there a reason we are going with 15 inch wheels instead of 17? Not arguing, just wondering.

ly2v8-Brian > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/25/2014 at 00:17

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again....

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > ly2v8-Brian 12/25/2014 at 00:23

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Was that Vette yours? Stop using Chevys. Thats obviously the problem.

You prefer under or over steer?

ly2v8-Brian > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/25/2014 at 00:41

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given the track record choosing Chevy is not the problem. And yeah that is my Vette. Oversteer is preferred.

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/25/2014 at 00:51

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Found out the actual Trans-Am series used 15". Doesn't really make a difference other than dropping a few lbs but still.

SVTyler > P5guy now GTIguy 12/25/2014 at 00:52

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Yep, let me know if there's any other problems.

SVTyler > Autofixation 12/25/2014 at 00:59

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I'm in favor of moving it back to 5 so we'll try to make it happen. What we'll hopefully do is move it back for the second round of the A550 cars at Laguna Seca so you'd only miss a few races. Kinda in the same position as you, I can't really miss work while on break and no one can cover me either.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 12/25/2014 at 01:39

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All right. Its just that the 15" rims look so hinky on the Mach 1. xD

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/25/2014 at 11:24

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Hey man, can you host the B450 race this Saturday? I'm leaving for vacation in like a half hour so I'd like to get this sorted before I get on a plane for five hours. I'll still make the reminder posts and stuff, all you gotta do is create the lobby on Saturday.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 12/25/2014 at 11:50

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Sure thing. I'll host all I can, since I seem to have the most stable internet. Four pm?

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 12/25/2014 at 11:53

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Yep, 4pm. Thanks dude, I'll be back for the A550 race next weekend so this should be a one-off thing.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 12/25/2014 at 12:51

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Cool. I still think the 15" wheels look rediculous.

Local Miata Bro > SVTyler 12/26/2014 at 22:40

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I would like in on this one my gt: sackofcheese I won't be able to start until the 31st of January as I work every Saturday at a dealership until school starts back up.

SVTyler > Autofixation 12/27/2014 at 04:21

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Btw I really do want to move it back to 4:30 but my boss normally has me start around 5:30 or 5:45 so I'll see if he lets me come in at 6 or so.

SVTyler > Rock Bottom 12/27/2014 at 04:23

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If you're interested in this series message TheVancen (IXII Wrath IIXI on XBL) and he'll get you in the car club.

SVTyler > Tohru 12/27/2014 at 06:39

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I'd suggest either the '70 Camaro or Javelin, both are super-stable so you can just manhandle them through the corners even in stock tuning settings.

Autofixation > SVTyler 12/27/2014 at 08:28

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It's fine, I know circumstances are circumstances. It just happens to be our schedules. What are you going to school for, and what is your job over break?

Tohru > SVTyler 12/27/2014 at 10:57

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I ended up bodging together a fairly decent handling Barracuda, but I might put together a Camaro to see how it compares.

The livery does have two concessions to actual racing use with me at the controls, as you can see.

SVTyler > P5guy now GTIguy 12/27/2014 at 21:25

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Hey man, go add however many PI points you need to get to 2:33 at Sebring and report the number back to me, we'll use that as your BoP adjustment for the next race. Laguna Seca should be a lot closer than this race was, sorry if it kinda sucked as far as competitiveness goes.

SVTyler > Autofixation 12/27/2014 at 21:29

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Mechanical engineering and delivering pizzas. I actually have an internship at Chrysler this summer so I should have weekends off for the next series we do. How about you man, what's got you working Saturdays?

Autofixation > SVTyler 12/27/2014 at 22:50

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Working in the parts department at a Subaru dealership. I am halfway done with my mechanical engineering degree. I just need to get back to school and finish it.

SVTyler > Autofixation 12/28/2014 at 13:26

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Gotcha, I'm a junior but about halfway through as well (was an undecided major for a few semesters). Planning on finishing your degree anytime soon? Or just saving up a bit of money to go back?

Autofixation > SVTyler 12/28/2014 at 21:35

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Saving money to go back.

SVTyler > Tohru 12/30/2014 at 07:01

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Lol that's awesome. See, that's the kinda work I hope people put into their liveries, I'd love to have our post-race photos full of custom paints like that. Here's mine:

Not anything particularly special but you'll know whose car it is which is kinda the thing I'm hoping for, like everyone ends up with a unique car like Wrath's Panoz or Viggen's Gulf McLaren that's instantly recognizable.

Tohru > SVTyler 12/30/2014 at 12:56

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Semi-related: for B450 I was told to tune up until I could do 2:33 at Sebring full - which took a +51 handicap. With that, I can lap Laguna Seca at 1:44. Is that competitive, too fast, or too slow?

SVTyler > Tohru 12/30/2014 at 21:09

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Christ, you're at 501? I didn't think the BoP adjustments would be so severe... I haven't fully tested Laguna Seca yet but the A550 cars ran about a 1:38 and the B450 cars are on average about five or six seconds slower per lap so that sounds right in theory. I'm just worried that all the PI you added was engine upgrades, and during the race people wouldn't be able to pass you before you get on the straight and murder everyone. Fuck it, we'll sort it out during another practice session, me and Wrath and Corey and Cherry Man and Viggen are on pretty regularly if you ever want to join us, we do all kinds of testing during the week.

Tohru > SVTyler 12/30/2014 at 21:18

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Well, I'm in the Fairlady 432. To reach 450 I did every single thing besides the motor, then did a little work on the motor. So to hit 501 it was nothing but motor work.

To be fair, this is me we're talking about - I can't do a 1:44 consistently. Out of 10 laps, I had one 1:43.5, one right around 1:44, a couple 1:44.5, then the rest were 1:45 or slower.

SVTyler > Tohru 12/30/2014 at 22:30

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Yeah, it's not like you could add PI any other way, I can't remember exactly what times we were running when we tested it but with traffic and crashes and stuff you should be fine even at 1:45 imo.

SlickMcRick > SVTyler 01/02/2015 at 18:50

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I must ask. What does PI stand for? I'm really interested in getting in on this action. Need something to do tomorrow.

Also is 550 the highest rating the car can be rated at?

dr861 > SVTyler 01/02/2015 at 19:07

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I'm in: Lentatom9

dr861 > SVTyler 01/02/2015 at 19:31

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Also, what track are the listed lap times from?

SVTyler > SlickMcRick 01/02/2015 at 23:42

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Performance index, raised by adding upgrades and the like. 550 is the ideal PI, but judging by the variety of skill levels most people will have to add a few upgrades (and thus PI) to turn in competitive lap times. And what's your gamertag? I'll get a club invite sent a few hours before racetime so you can get into the lobby.

SVTyler > dr861 01/02/2015 at 23:44

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Mugello. Keep in mind those were hot laps with replay enabled and no other cars so you won't get anywhere near those times in the actual race, I'd expect around a 2:08 or 2:09 in traffic. And be on the lookout for a club invite, I'll have sent it by tomorrow.

SlickMcRick > SVTyler 01/02/2015 at 23:56

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Capt Jesse is the gamer tag. I'm driving the Ford Falcon and may need some advice on the tuning aspect. Can't seem to get out of the low 2:30s. Played around with a tune and screwed up the entire thing.

SVTyler > SlickMcRick 01/02/2015 at 23:59

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I'm definitely not the dude to ask about tuning, maybe try TheVancen (IXII Wrath IIXI on Live) or Cherry_Man1 (Cherry Man 1) for some advice. I know there's tuning guides on the Internet but beyond that I'm lost as well, sorry dude.

dr861 > SVTyler 01/03/2015 at 13:37

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Thanks buddy!

area man > SVTyler 01/08/2015 at 22:30

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hey, can I get an invite? GT is datnoise.

SVTyler > area man 01/08/2015 at 22:50

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Yeah, I'll send it later tonight. My house's wifi is still being weird but I should be able to get on for long enough to invite you to the club.

SVTyler > area man 01/09/2015 at 07:53

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Sent, just accept and you're in.

KillerRaccoon - Group J's Sébastien Loeb > SVTyler 01/27/2015 at 17:04

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late to the party, but gt: Picky Procyonid

Nonster > SVTyler 01/28/2015 at 18:13

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oh shit I thought this was on Forza 5 so I skipped over it. I'm definitely gonna get in on this. Add me please! GT: Nonster

SVTyler > Nonster 01/28/2015 at 18:20

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Will do once I get home around midnight, feel free to send a club or friend request before then.

SVTyler > Nonster 01/29/2015 at 18:14

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Invite sent, just accept and you should be good to go this weekend.

SVTyler > KillerRaccoon - Group J's Sébastien Loeb 01/29/2015 at 18:15

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Invite sent, welcome to the club.

TopSirloin > SVTyler 02/14/2015 at 02:31

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Trans-Am A550 at Infineon tomorrow correct? I noticed the series info page lists 2/14 for A550 at infineon, whereas a previous update or recap listed 2/15 for A550 at infineon. Just double checking. 2-2:30pm EST I should be able to be there.