Now THIS, is some forced induction I can get behind

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
11/28/2014 at 23:11 • Filed to: Future stuff

Twin turbochargers, and no loss in cylinder count, or displacement. I can get behind this!

(Pictures from mustangsdaily.com)

It uses two Borg-Warner turbochargers, the same as the FoST.

Now, I know this was shown at SEMA in 2012, but I just found out about this, and it looks properly cool.

So long as it can be made to sound like a proper V8, unlike the Audi S8, I'd be down for this in the future; yes, I just said that.

The S8 sounds like crap by the way.

DISCUSSION (62)

LappingLuke > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:15

Wow that is the saddest sounding car...I'm sorry I watched that :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > LappingLuke
11/28/2014 at 23:20

SEE?! This is why I'm generally against turbocharging, because it makes it sound like shit! It might sound alright on the inside, but it should sound that good on the outside too in my opinion. And then you have to pay more to make it sound good, if possible. And the S8 has a rev-limiter at 4000rpm, which is what you heard in the video.

Nothing beats a good naturally aspirated sound. I mean if you're adding a turbo, at least try to still make it sound good right?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:24

Here is some more info: http://www.fordracingparts.com/cobrajet/PDFS/…

And what it sounds like:

LappingLuke > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:26

I agree that turbos necessarily take away some good sound from any car but a lot of cars sound great in spite of the turbine spinning in the way. My buddy had an HX40 on my 92 Mustang GT making around 450whp and it sounded amazing. The Fiat 500 Abarth has to be the best sounding 4 cylinder factory stock car there is, Skylines sound great, etc. It's just when manufacturers put shitty exhausts on cars is when it all goes wrong. Also 4k rev limit?!?!?!?! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Weak. For me, it's all N/A. If I get something with terbo, its gonna be rotard RX-7 or something equally cool.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/28/2014 at 23:31

Too much blower noise!! Need to tone that shit down, more V8 sounds!!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > LappingLuke
11/28/2014 at 23:35

Not all turbo cars sound bad, that's true, but some cars that were originally naturally aspirated, sound better without turbos. Like the M3/M4, they sound good, but N/A sounded much better.

It's like they can sound good, then they add all the sound deadening crap and then it sounds like shit. But the other problem is that that while turbos make for quick fun, I like my fun to last on roads, before you no it with FI cars, you're speeding like hell. I like the long lasting sound in the higher rpms while I get up to speed.

dailydoseofmindlessness > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:37

Don't mind me but....

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > dailydoseofmindlessness
11/28/2014 at 23:38

What is that? What even is that?? I can't even tell what it is!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:41

I like the turbo noise. But this is a compromise:

And they will fit in a Mustang.

Jonathan Hill > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:46

This maybe?? Its on their youtube page....

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/28/2014 at 23:46

What is that??

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jonathan Hill
11/28/2014 at 23:49

Oh good god!! (o_O)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:49

The Ford 6.0 Powerstroke. The most misunderstood engine they've made.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:52

I was having good night. That video of the S8 effectively messed it up. That's just pathetic :(

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/28/2014 at 23:58

Seriously Audi, are you even trying there? Also I prefer my V8's to have 0 turbos unless it has the word 'diesel' after it.

Tohru > LappingLuke
11/29/2014 at 00:00

It sounds like revving up your vacuum cleaner.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/29/2014 at 00:01

Why is it misunderstood?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
11/29/2014 at 00:01

I know, sorry to have poisoned your ears. :(

LappingLuke > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:02

Yeah definitely once you muffle a turbo you just end up with fizzing whooshing noise like a worn out cooter and no engine sounds.

LappingLuke > Tohru
11/29/2014 at 00:03

C'mon man lay off my Hoover it sounds way better than that...

GhostZ > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/29/2014 at 00:03

V8 Turbo Diesel? Yes please.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:06

I am a defender of VAG, and think that the S8 is an astonishing performing car. But that? That is seriously pathetic.

Also it seems that Ford took Volkswagen font with their Twin Turbo lettering on the top of the engine.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:06

The first 2 years of production were a bit problematic. But, for the price of a decent 7.3, you can have one of these with all the preventative mods, and have an engine that is more powerful and efficient. Because of the problems, they were kind of shit on. They were the 996 of Ford Powerstroke engines.

GhostZ > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:07

The problem is that most manufacturers won't allow their turbos to sound like this.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > GhostZ
11/29/2014 at 00:12

Well I wouldn't want a car with an obnoxious BOV myself, I'd at least want a good sounding turbo car from the start and mod appropriately. If that were the case, I would not have had to spend $1000 on my ST within 3 weeks of owning it, and it was the dumbest financial decision I ever made, but made life soo much better for my ears.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
11/29/2014 at 00:14

See? I bet it performs very nice-like, but that sound, now you see what I've been getting on about all this time?? Sure, I never was very specific or informative, but it only took this 30-second video to get my point accross!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > LappingLuke
11/29/2014 at 00:14

Like the ST stock. All turbo cars should be like the Neon SRT-4: NO MUFFLERS FROM THE FACTORY

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/29/2014 at 00:16

That bad huh, compared to a 996 though, that means the 6.0 could be worse. :p

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > GhostZ
11/29/2014 at 00:22

Yep, gotta buy a truck!

Kinja'd!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:22

Nah, some of them still made it to 400-500k miles.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:24

Power must be very linear and it is an amazing machine. But sound is one of those things that affect the experience with the car, and being that bad is just unacceptable. Here is where an AMG beats it hands down.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
11/29/2014 at 00:26

Here's where just about any other V8 beats it. And that's important.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/29/2014 at 00:26

Without rebuilds???

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:31

I think even BMW's twin turbo V8 beats it

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 00:31

Yeah, as long as you worked them and maintained them, they were pretty good for the most part. It's not a million miler like a Cummins, but that's not too shabby.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
11/29/2014 at 00:37

You know it beats it.

dailydoseofmindlessness > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 01:27

997 GT3 RSR with a Cargraphic 4.0

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 03:20

I get the feeling the S8 sounds like that because the guys who drive it normally dont want to be disturbing in the middle of their buisness meeting/arranging to meet the mistress :P

Brian Silvestro > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 08:29

How does the RS7 sound so good while the S8 sounds this horrible?!?

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 09:31

It hurts. But you know what also hurts? This sounds better than the ST

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
11/29/2014 at 10:10

My ST would like a word with you

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 10:13

I. Don't. Know.

Because turbo ruined the sound and, or, Audi barely even tried to make it sound good.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > bob and john
11/29/2014 at 10:13

Then they bought the wrong car.

Brian Silvestro > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:13

BUT IT'S THE SAME ENGINE

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:24

God, the S8 before it was one of the best-sounding sedans you could buy:

While I don't think the new S8 sounds completely terrible, it also doesn't sound good. It fell a long way.

But at the same time, the TT V8 is better than the Lambo V10 in every single way except noise, so you might argue it's a fair tradeoff.

PS9 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:24

I think the sewing machine inside that Audi has to clear it's throat... :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/29/2014 at 10:28

For you, it may be a trade-off, but I refuse to drive a car whose sound I cannot stand, tolerate, and enjoy listening to. I don't care if its 'better', I'll take a V10 because it sounds better.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PS9
11/29/2014 at 10:29

Nah, it's been broken in. You like it?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 10:31

Then I have no idea why. Let's speculate further, can we have a look under the car?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:34

That's a matter of opinion. Sound for me is high up on my list of priorities, but if I had a car like that where I loved the car but didn't care for the sound, I'd throw a different breathing setup on the car and call it a day.

PS9 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:36

About as much as I'd like a root canal.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PS9
11/29/2014 at 10:38

Oh yes. :)

Brian Silvestro > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 10:54

I'm on mobile and too lazy to look up any pictures

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 10:59

I can't find any for what it's worth. Also, I found another one of those stickers for you. :)

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:07

uhh...how? just because they want a large, comfy cruiser with a big-ass engine doesnt mean they want to listen to said big-ass engine drone on all the time.

chances are, active exhausts that werent in play in that vid

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > bob and john
11/29/2014 at 11:10

Clearly, sarcasm doesn't go far on the internet. And that car does not have active exhausts; what you hear is what you get.

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:12

they got rid of them? huh. I know the last gen S8 had active exhuasts (or its so popular a mod that EVERY SINGLE ONE i've seen so far has them)