Why are some Honda fanboys so fucking dumb?

"Captain_Spadaro" (Captain_Spadaro) 11/25/2014 at 17:26 • Filed to: rants, venting, stupid people

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Seriously, there's this one idiot who can't accept the fact that Honda isn't what it used to be. Guy comes after me because I had the gall, the nerve, the gumption to say that a Honda wasn't a good car a few years ago.

MonkeePuzzle > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 17:30

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we all do the meths

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MonkeePuzzle 11/25/2014 at 17:35

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We all float down here.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 17:36

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Fanboys in general are dumb. They aren't open minded and dismiss facts as falsehoods. Don't bother trying to argue.

Mercedes Streeter > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/25/2014 at 17:40

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Gamecat235 > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 17:44

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Did you just extrapolate the behavior of an entire population based on one data point? May want to dial back the rhetoric there. And by "may" I mean, you definitely should. There's no place for this here.

So you encountered an idiot... OK. Yep. Happens to all of us. Let's not dive into attacking entire subsections of car culture.

And for the record... "...to say that Honda wasn't a good car a few years ago." What?

Decay buys too many beaters > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 17:44

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I'm a Honda fanboy, but their cars are shit. Their bikes and scooters are awesome.

scoob > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/25/2014 at 17:54

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So much this.

RoadHead -- Armand > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 18:04

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I don't see why people love Honda to begin with. They're cheap cars. Values, to be sure, but still, cheap cars made from cheap materials that have never blown me away.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/25/2014 at 18:10

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I'm a self-loathing Honda fanboy. As a VW fanboy, I hate Honda fanboys, but retro Honda scooters are my favorite sort of scooter and I am a total fanboy of them.

Übel > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 18:12

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Could we just like go a day without generalizing an entire group of people based on one loud idiot?

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 18:15

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I don't know about the fanboys part but on the Honda part you are spot on they have definitely lost their way. the last great honda's weren't honda's at all(in north america at least).

NSX aside.

The Acura TL Type S.

and the Acura Type R.

The last great honda in my opinion is the EK Civic Type R.

I actually used to really like Honda but now not so much same goes for Toyota there was a time where the were awesome now it's nothing but appliances (FR-S aside).

I would love it if Honda went back to their roots and give us the cars that made them awesome in the first place. The biggest missed opportunity is by far the CR-Z. ditch the hybrid and give it a K20 and presto an awesome successor to the CRX. It would of been so easy and such a success but somehow they thought otherwise.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > RoadHead -- Armand 11/25/2014 at 18:27

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Depends what you call a cheap car. And "cheap materials" wut? They're made of alloy, steel, plastic, rubber and glass like most cars.

Captain_Spadaro > Gamecat235 11/25/2014 at 18:48

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Should have said 'a Honda' (think it was the 2012 Civic; it's been a while).

And yeah, I did. I've encountered a bunch of them that put their fingers in there ears and refuse to listen to reason. The one I'm talking about, though...hoo boy, I think he might, uh, have issues. Like, major issues.

PS9 > Gamecat235 11/25/2014 at 18:51

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Compartmentalization and extrapolation are truly the demons of human understanding.

Gamecat235 > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 18:52

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I'm sure he does. I've met a lot of them (I'm nearly 40), and there are a lot of people in the Honda scene that make it look bad.

I've never owned a Honda, and have no stake in this game. But I don't like making Oppo a battleground either. Calling an idiot an idiot and then providing proof is one thing. Lumping them all in together though? I'm sure that there are some good ones out there. I know that there are a few here.

Captain_Spadaro > Gamecat235 11/25/2014 at 18:57

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Title has been updated to reflect that its not all of them.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/25/2014 at 19:02

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And then there is the freaking awesome Grom.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/25/2014 at 19:22

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Hey I admit modern Toyota's for the most part are terrible. Or basically anything that is wrong wheel drive, with the exception of a couple.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Captain_Spadaro 11/25/2014 at 19:52

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Maybe he's had nothing but good experiences with Honda.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Übel 11/25/2014 at 19:53

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If we did would it still be the Internet?

Übel > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/25/2014 at 19:57

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I HAD A DREAM. A dream that I was banging Katy Perry on board an alien spaceship.

I don't know where I was going with that

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/25/2014 at 20:12

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Like the Civic Type R?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/25/2014 at 20:17

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I was speaking of Toyota's. Things like the Toyota Corolla/Matrix XRS with the 2ZZ-GE or other FWD cars with that engine.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/25/2014 at 20:20

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Oh wow. That was bad on my part. The only Toyota I would consider would be the GT-86, but I can't get that in Canada.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/25/2014 at 20:22

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I would get the 4Runner or Tacoma. Maybe the Tundra.

Captain_Spadaro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/25/2014 at 20:43

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I can understand having good experiences with a brand, but this guy is fanatical, and not in a good way. ANY time anyone says something the slightest bit negative about them, he jumps on them.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/25/2014 at 21:04

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MEH. Trail 70 is better.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/25/2014 at 22:29

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I agree completely, but this post was more regarding new Hondas.

I am firmly in the old school Honda camp, I've currently got the following.

1985 Aero 50

1977 Express (work in progress)

Next addition will be a Trail 90.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/25/2014 at 23:09

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Nice! I'm jealous. This is my current project (of a couple years now):

1972 CT70H, three year only model with a slight power bump and a 4 speed manual instead of a 3 speed semi-auto. Its in a few pieces right now, but I'm hoping to get it running soon.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/25/2014 at 23:22

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That is awesome, didn't know they made a real manual.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/25/2014 at 23:50

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Thanks, they're pretty rare from my understanding. Low production volume, and only for 3 years. I don't think I've ever seen one go for under a grand (although all the other ones I've seen have been much nicer than mine), and I managed to get mine for free :p

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/25/2014 at 23:54

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I thought i got a good deal by picking up both of my scoots for a combined $130, but free?!? What is this madness?

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/26/2014 at 00:04

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Family discount! My Aunt bought it new, and when she was done with it it just hung out in my Grandfather's barn and rotted. Pulled it out a few years ago hoping to get it up and running someday soon. Granted, it may have been free to buy, but I'm going to have a fair bit into it before I'm done, since my end goal is getting it Rego'd for road use.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/26/2014 at 00:23

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Ah makes sense. How do the old 4 strokes hold up to long term storage? My 2 strokes are covered in deep rust, but thanks to an always leaky oil injection pump, both engines were filled with oil above and below the piston and thus preserved in a like new state.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/26/2014 at 00:42

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See for yourself! It's basically like new under the cover. The exhaust is rusted through, and various parts are frozen with rust, but nothing major. The electrical system even still works, although I'll probably replace it anyways. At this point, the biggest thing barring me from getting things moving is the clutch, which seems to have frozen into a single mass, so I need to get the tool to remove & replace it. Beyond that, it's looking like basic refreshing to get it up to spec.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/26/2014 at 00:54

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Very nice, amazing how these things can last. The aero sat for 7 years and I just cleaned the carb and gave it some fresh gas. Hell the battery even still works.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/26/2014 at 01:02

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He also had a couple of Elite 50s that we did just that with, had some fun tooling around the backyard with those. Unfortunately, the CT70's been sitting for closer to 37 years, so I'm not quite that lucky this time around. We did get it bump started a couple times, but it only ran for a brief period before sputtering out. I suspect it's because the rear hub's all but frozen, and was stalling it out just from the added drag. Until I get the clutch unstuck, I can't kick it over to really give it a test, so I can't really be sure yet though.

Decay buys too many beaters > Übel 11/26/2014 at 01:26

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Thats about where I am with the express, except both drums are frozen.

Übel > Decay buys too many beaters 11/26/2014 at 01:35

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Yeah, I think my rear drums are. Fronts seem to be alright, though