VW update

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 11/18/2014 at 11:36 • Filed to: None

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My wife's 2011 VS sportwagen TDI stalled and wouldn't restart last night, leaving her stranded. Just talked to the dealer this morning: HPFP failure. A common problem for these TDI's, the High Pressure Fuel Pump basically goes...

...and takes the entire fuel system with it. Seriously....100% of the fuel system, rail, injectors, low pressure pump, etc, etc. Its about $6500 in PARTS. Fortunately because this is a common problem and I'm still in powertrain warranty the tech assures me that the approval rate for this is 99% and it should be up and running this week.

So.....What car should I replace the Sportwagen with? Wagon, manual preferred, ~$17,000-20,000 budget and highly reliable a plus.

Coty > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:37

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SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:41

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Good luck. There aren't any other than VWs, which as we all know, break in expensive and confusing ways. Maybe you can find a used TLX?

PatBateman > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:42

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You're f*cking welcome.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/32157…

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:42

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US Market

Wanting a manual wagon

Not willing to spend CTS-V money

Thinking there are other options than VW

HammerheadFistpunch > For Sweden 11/18/2014 at 11:43

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TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:46

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It blows my mind how bad the new engines are, my little 1.6 eco diesel went 312000 miles with nothing but a water pump, timing belt and belt changes (oil and coolant too, but that is assumed). When I sold it, it was still running like clockwork.

m-b-w loves his SUBAROO > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:53

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Outback?

I'm pretty sure I'm about to get one. They seem like pretty solid cars, and are available with a 6 speed.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:53

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boobytrapsandtreasure > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:54

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I am struck dumb by how much it is just in parts. That is crazy.

HammerheadFistpunch > m-b-w loves his SUBAROO 11/18/2014 at 11:54

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my wife hates outbacks....true story.

Chris Clarke > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:55

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Mazda 3 5-door.

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displa…

m-b-w loves his SUBAROO > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:55

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Oh well then.

HammerheadFistpunch > boobytrapsandtreasure 11/18/2014 at 11:56

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Diesel parts. Injectors are stupid expensive since they are high pressure Piezo. also VW.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:58

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VW had a recall out for it a while ago... and "fixed" it by saying that it was because people were putting gas in the diesel tank...

I'm sorry, I can't help you :(

OPPOsaurus WRX > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 11:59

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http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/…

HammerheadFistpunch > Chris Clarke 11/18/2014 at 11:59

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Thats the first thing that popped into my mind.

boobytrapsandtreasure > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:03

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Yeah, but...That's almost 1/3 of the replacement cost of your car just in parts. Sorry, I'm just shocked.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:03

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I'd go with a used 3er wagon. It's highly reliable....compared to a VW which tends to commit seppuku when it goes wrong.

HammerheadFistpunch > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/18/2014 at 12:05

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A base model would be more her speed, but man alive are those 5 doors ugly. Like tragically ugly.

HammerheadFistpunch > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 11/18/2014 at 12:07

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I called the tech this morning to make sure he understood before the fact that we had NOT misfueled. ever. Only tier 1 suppliers, only diesel, never bio. Took that bullet out of the clip before they even thought about using it.

Two Drink Minimum > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:08

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What a nightmare. The combo of randomly grenading HPFPs and the specter of intercooler vapor lock scared me away from TDIs. And I own a Fiat!

Here is a sad kitten for your troubles.

TotallyThatStupid > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:10

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Former VW Service Advisor here:

Customer: "I just accidentally put gas in my 2010 TDI. Does my warranty cover that?"
Me: "No, but I'll bet your insurance company will."
Customer: "What?"
Me: "Yep. You're looking around $11k in parts and labor."

HammerheadFistpunch > TotallyThatStupid 11/18/2014 at 12:12

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We've been ver good about this for a reason. we have the misfuel interlock fitted and all the warning stickers and we never loan the car to anyone.

spanfucker retire bitch > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:19

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This is what happens 1 mile after the warranty expires on a German vehicle.

HammerheadFistpunch > spanfucker retire bitch 11/18/2014 at 12:21

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yup

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:22

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Mazda 3 hatchback.

Or...

A 96 Buick Roadmaster with an LT1+manual transmission swap

MURICA FUCK YEAH

spanfucker retire bitch > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:24

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Awww, shit. I remember that post, I just forgot who it was that posted it.

Evil-B > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:27

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That is crazy

thebigbossyboss > boobytrapsandtreasure 11/18/2014 at 12:35

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That's like 3x the value of my car!

thebigbossyboss > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:37

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Once in a fit of stupid I almost put diesel in my gas car. I had the hose in the car and was like "wait...this hose is yellow". phew. Close call.

HammerheadFistpunch > thebigbossyboss 11/18/2014 at 12:39

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fortunately, thats the cheap fix. its the other way around thats expensive. I don't know how they did it but they have a special interlock now on the filler that wont let you insert a gas nozzle.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:44

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This is making me wonder how long until this happens to me... :(

HammerheadFistpunch > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 11/18/2014 at 12:48

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does your car ever surge a little? Ours did, and in retrospect Im thinking it was probably a sign of things to come. Just make sure if it doesn't happen by 5 years or 60,000 miles you get extended coverage. ~$2000 is a small price to pay compared to $6500-$11,000

TotallyThatStupid > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:54

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Indeed, putting gas in your new VW diesel is catastrophic, the equivalent of having the HPFP grenade.

Diesel fuel is an oil. It keeps things like the pump and injectors lubricated as it moves through the system. Gasoline is a solvent. It cleans all that nasty oil out of the system on its way through.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:54

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...surge? Like you hit the gas, it hesitates, and then bucks a little?

And no, I can't get the extended coverage... the car has a hair under 80k miles :(

HammerheadFistpunch > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 11/18/2014 at 12:56

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mine would surge at lights, bouncing up and down a few hundred rpm and run a little rough some days.

HammerheadFistpunch > TotallyThatStupid 11/18/2014 at 12:57

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Though Low Sulfur fuel is much less oil and lube than it used to be...part of the HPFP failure problem methinks.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 12:58

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Hmm, I'm not sure if that has happened to me before (though it is a distinct possibility)...

but hey, if they need to pull the engine to fix it, I could ask them to leave it out when I get the car back so I could do the DPF *fix* and EGR *fix* along with the CR170 Euro Turbo upgrade ;)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 13:36

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Does another SUV count as a wagon?

RallyWrench > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2014 at 13:56

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$6500 in parts? WTF? I just looked them up, and at full list for both pumps, filter, all injectors, rail with regulator, and pressure sensor you'd be at $3,291.25. Still expensive, but half what you were quoted.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > For Sweden 11/19/2014 at 13:23

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.....The 500X should might be an option if he can hold out a while. It's not actually over here yet. Avoid the 500L, though. It's horrible.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch 03/03/2015 at 15:19

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One of my uncle's first car was a microbus that burned to the ground three days after he bought it.

OneRotor > HammerheadFistpunch 10/27/2015 at 09:39

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Is the surging an indication of the HPFP failing? What would it cost to replace that before it grenades and takes everything with it?