Oppo Confession Time

"mcseanerson" (mcseanerson)
11/07/2014 at 14:57 • Filed to: None

Up until the 50th anniversary I never liked 911's. With all the coverage I started reading more about them and started to appreciate the little differences. Making this even stranger I have always loved Corvairs as long as I've known what a Corvair was.

What's your secret Oppo?

DISCUSSION (30)

Leadbull > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 14:59

It's a secret.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:02

I have many. The one I will tell that only a few people know is this. I don't have girlfriend.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:02

I'm looking at Dodge Nitros as a replacement for my Safari.

So long as it has a 4.0L V6 and 4-wheel drive.

Textured Soy Protein > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:03

My secret is while I admire air-cooled 911s, I wouldn't actually want to drive one because they're too narrow inside. The front seats are practically touching each other, the pedals are offset way to the right, and the footrest (a.k.a. the other side of the wheelwell that intrudes into the cabin) is too close to you compared to the pedals so each of your legs is extended a different amount.

Jedidiah > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:05

I don't like 911's either.

Porsche took leftover Beetle technology from the 30s and said "Let's make a sports car with this stuff and sell it for a ton of money!"

Plenty of other cars would've wiped the floor with one for much less money and yet the 911 is one of the halo cars for many enthusiasts somehow. I don't get it.

The air cooled/rear engine layout makes sense for ecoboxes like the Corvair and Beetle, but I've always struggled to understand the appeal of 911 other than brand perceptibility

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:06

A nitro isnt a bad car, its just kinda meh

spanfucker retire bitch > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:06

I hated Corvettes until the C7 came out. I did not care for them one bit, not a single generation of the Corvette appealed to me in any way.

Then the C7 appeared and it was as if the clouds were parted by the Angels themselves. God damn, that is an awesome car I thought to myself.

Sweet Trav > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:08

I still don't like 911's. They are a car that is fast in spite of their ass backwards design, not because of it. I hate them because they epitomize conservative automotive design, they're worse than Toyota, they have built the same fundamental car for 50 years, with the same melted VW bug style.

Here's the secret: I still respect the engineering behind them that's necessary to get a car so "wrong" to perform as well as it does.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/07/2014 at 15:08

They're the anti-christ if you ask some people in the car community.

I've always liked the styling, plastic interior be damned.

mcseanerson > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/07/2014 at 15:08

More money for car stuff!

mcseanerson > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:09

4.0 straight six? Or did Mopar make a 4.0 V6?

Sweet Trav > spanfucker retire bitch
11/07/2014 at 15:09

I wouldn't say I hated corvettes, but they weren't my cup of tea, the C1's and the early boxy C4 were my favorites, but now the C7... all of my wants.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:10

Or other stuff that I don't need that I keep wasting money on that I should be saving for a car and car stuff.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:10

Why are they the antichrist? Theyre neither poorly styled, or mechanically insufficient. Theyre just crossovers, and crossovers are bad

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:11

They made a 4.0L V6. I know it was also in the mini-vans. Not sure what else it saw life in.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
11/07/2014 at 15:12

I dunno. I for one like crossovers. Even though I consider it an SUV because it's RWD based 4-wheel drive.

mcseanerson > spanfucker retire bitch
11/07/2014 at 15:13

I loved the classic Stingrays when I was a kid and then I started to hate all Corvettes, until the C5 Z06. Now I hate the new Z06 because it doesn't feel special to me.

mcseanerson > Jedidiah
11/07/2014 at 15:13

I never had an issue with air cooled or rear engine platform. I just felt each generation was too much like the previous one and nothing really big ever changed.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:14

I actually don't mind those things. I wasn't aware of the 4.0 in it though. Thought they were all 3.7's

mcseanerson > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:15

You should get a Subaru Forester XT.

spanfucker retire bitch > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:16

C2 Stingrays were one of the ones that annoyed me the most, because back when I used to go to classic car shows with my Dad, I'd see literally fucking hundreds of them everywhere.

E92M3 > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:23

I don't like 1965 Mustangs.

505Turbeaux > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:24

I have no secrets since I started posting to oppo - you guys have wrangled all the good shit out of me

Jedidiah > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 15:24

The platform makes sense because it saves space (good for ecobox) and lends itself to efficient air cooling because of the low pressure zone behind the car. This lets you use a cheap, simple air cooled motor and optimize interior space in a small car.

Why you would use this platform in a sports car beats me. It has some certain handling benefits, but nearly every other platform has either better or more predictable handling.

They had to elongate and deform the Beetle's shape for handling reasons, which makes it less space efficient. They dont have cheap motors (aluminum cranks and other things). They have macpherson struts and torsion bars (blergh, ew).

The more I think about them the less I like them; their prices certainly doesn't help me like them.

mcseanerson > E92M3
11/07/2014 at 15:29

I don't like fastback Mustangs.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
11/07/2014 at 15:40

Higher trim levels got it. The Liberty never did though.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/07/2014 at 15:55

How odd.

Funny story about a Nitro

Me and 3 friends got kicked out of one at the Detroit Auto Show 3 years ago LOL

all 4 of us sat in every seat, must have been in it for 45 minutes. NO ONE wanted to sit in the Nitro's and we were chill the whole time. I have NO IDEA why we were kicked out of it for spending that much time in it or why we spent 45 minutes in a Nitro for no reason lol

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > mcseanerson
11/07/2014 at 16:55

My relationship with 911s has been exactly the same as yours.

Round headlight enthusiast > spanfucker retire bitch
11/07/2014 at 22:10

I agree, every local car show I've been to has had a Corvette problem. It's one of those cars where

lots produced + high desireability = large percentage of classic car market

However, there's this one guy locally with a Studebaker Golden Hawk that he takes out to the shows. Now that's a genuinely interesting car.

Alex B > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/08/2014 at 08:19

Why not a Jeep Liberty?