My opinion on the election results.

"GhostZ" (GhostZ)
11/05/2014 at 18:15 • Filed to: None

Happy 5th of November. Car porn after the break.

DISCUSSION (11)

ranwhenparked > GhostZ
11/05/2014 at 18:30

So, you're saying you want a Catholic terrorist to blow up the elected government in order to institute a theocratic dictatorship?

Dusty Ventures > ranwhenparked
11/05/2014 at 18:35

So long as they time the explosions to sync up with the 1812 Overture I'm all for it.

/notreally

//butitwouldbeprettysweet

GhostZ > ranwhenparked
11/05/2014 at 18:36

Roundbadge > ranwhenparked
11/05/2014 at 19:08

I get the idea of wanting to blow up government and start over.

It just really bugs me when people bring out the Guy Fawkes masks while crowing for the reboot. What he wanted is totally not what you want.

ranwhenparked > Roundbadge
11/05/2014 at 19:10

If people knew who Guy Fawkes really was, they would join patriotic Britons in burning him in effigy, rather than wearing his mask.

thebigbossyboss > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2014 at 21:00

Lol. The war of 1812 was not a great american success.

Dusty Ventures > thebigbossyboss
11/06/2014 at 08:48

You're right. Overall it was more or less a stalemate (in terms of US vs Britain, for Canada's part specifically it was pretty much entirely a win). The U.S. won the southern theatre, and stopped the British Royal Navy's habit of kidnapping American civilians and forcing them to become a part of the Royal Navy (something the Brits began in an attempt to have manpower for the Napoleonic Wars), but failed in their attempt to annex part of Canada. The British failed in their attempts to capture New York state, and at the end of it all both sides agreed to just go back to the pre-war borders.

But that's not what I meant by my comment. The 1812 Overture is a famous musical piece, often played with cannons (yes, real motherfucking cannons ). It's also the music used in the final scene of V for Vendetta when everything blows up.

thebigbossyboss > Dusty Ventures
11/06/2014 at 09:35

I. Didn't know that the British were abducting your citizens. Here in canada the war of 1812 is usually regarded as a victory.

Dusty Ventures > thebigbossyboss
11/06/2014 at 09:51

Yeah, like I said, the Canadians won, the Brits and the U.S. stalemated. And yeah, there was more motivation to the U.S. declaring war than just wanting a chunk of that sweet, sweet, Mapley Canadian soil. The was also the issue of the British enforcing trade restrictions against the U.S, the aforementioned British impressment of American citizens, the British attacking American merchant ships, and the British helping prepare the Indian tribes to fight against American expansion westward (in retrospect a noble cause, though almost certainly done because the Brits wanted that turf for themselves).

thebigbossyboss > Dusty Ventures
11/06/2014 at 10:21

Thanks for the insights on this. Since the war of 1812 was SO long ago (more than 100 years before my grandmother was even born) the cultural understanding of it has weakened considerably. Also "Canada" of course wouldn't exist for another 55 years yet, so we had no "national" identity at that point.

Dusty Ventures > thebigbossyboss
11/06/2014 at 10:57

True. I believe the official name back then was "British North America."

Also, not only has time effected the understanding of the war, but the relationship of one's role in said war as well. Canadians, as you well know, see the war as a win for themselves, because when the Americans came the Canucks sent them packing. In the U.S. we're taught it was a win for us because we managed to "re-assert our independence from the British crown." Plus that whole battle of New Orleans thing. The bit about failing to Capture any of Moosetopia is largely glossed over. Over in Britain meanwhile the general response is "War of 1812? What war of 1812? You mean the one where we were fighting Napoleon?" Since the Napoleonic wars were at the same time, and much closer to home, the War of 1812 is little more than a historical footnote to them and is basically considered a "distracting side skirmish" to the true war of the time.