Slight rant: pricing on cars

"Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD" (300korbust) 11/04/2014 at 20:47 • Filed to: None

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First of all, here is this amazing drawing of a RWB Porsche for your time:

So, I'm browsing around Craigs here in Colo. Springs and everyone on here thinks they have cars worth their weight in gold. A 2002 WRX goes for over $6,000!! With over 160,000 miles on it! Then I looked at Outbacks from the same year. $3,500 for a 200,000 miles example. Really? I started looking at 4Runners: 300,000 miles example with rust like no tomorrow. Price? $3,000. Are people stupid or am I a cheapskate?

E30Joe drives a Subaru > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:49

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Turbo tax.

jkm7680 > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:51

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Yes! I have no idea why beat to hell, already shit modded ones go for upwards of $6,000.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:53

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RWB? Really Whacking Beautiful? Rear Wheels Big?

My citroen won't start > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:54

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That's because your government doesn't put a 100% tax on cars.

sefeing, actually bought an E46 > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:54

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Don't worry dude, it's the same here in NYC.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:57

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Those are common off-road/dirt rigs. I have the same issue in WA state. you cannot find an STI of any vintage that hasn't been driven to shit for under 25K

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 20:57

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When I was looking for my car, my Dad found an 07 STI covered in stickers, poorly modified and with 120K on the odometer that was going for over 15K. Best part? The auto check showed it had been rolled back from at least 160K! WRX's and other Subaru's hold their price really well no matter the condition. Found another black WRX from 04 with a lot of problems (Including a big power steering leak) going for 11K with 120K miles!

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > sefeing, actually bought an E46 11/04/2014 at 20:58

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I don't get it. I found one reasonably priced 4Runner for $1950. It looks nice at least.

http://cosprings.craigslist.org/cto/4745730942…

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > E30Joe drives a Subaru 11/04/2014 at 20:58

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To get a better refund then, huh?

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/04/2014 at 20:59

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Really Wide Butt

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > My citroen won't start 11/04/2014 at 21:00

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Yikes! Where do you live that does that?

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > jkm7680 11/04/2014 at 21:01

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Neither do I! What is wrong with people? They listen to NADA too much and think, "Ya know, my car is at least in the middle," and price it over that.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:01

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Different generations command different pricing. That is actually dirt fucking cheap for a first gen in almost any condition. Second gens are known for their coughing headgaskets(own one, not that big of a deal in the long run, probably still costs less to run overall) so they go for cheap. Third gen's are know for hitting 400k plus, so that's why they are pricey.

SVTyler > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/04/2014 at 21:01

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Rauh-Welt Begriff, which I assume is German for "completely batshit insane."

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > SVTyler 11/04/2014 at 21:03

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Oh, I'd never heard of them before.

Google Translate says it means "Rough-World Concept", fwiw.

My citroen won't start > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:04

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Brazil, want to buy a base Golf? 30 grand. How about a GTI? 50k

jkm7680 > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:05

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That is so right, Haha.

Like if the seats aren't even remotely blue and it's obviously been debadged and fart canned then it isn't a $6,500 car. Fair value for an average condition car is like $3-4,000.

SVTyler > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/04/2014 at 21:08

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I learned something today!

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > SVTyler 11/04/2014 at 21:10

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Of course, this is the same Google Translate that will do the following:

Translate lyrics of "Let it go" into Japanese.

Translate it back to English.

Then read utter nonsense involving intestinal wind.

So take it with more than a grain of salt.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > My citroen won't start 11/04/2014 at 21:12

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What the hell?! Do they expect to grow their economy that way?

Decay buys too many beaters > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:14

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People are stupid. I was shopping for a WRX a while ago, but wasn't willing to pay the Northwest Subaru tax.

On a side note, most of the sellers were the types of people I wouldn't trust working on my POS $100 scooter.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Decay buys too many beaters 11/04/2014 at 21:16

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That's how I feel about it! People need to lower their standards a bit. And when I say a bit, I mean by at least 75%.

SVTyler > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/04/2014 at 21:16

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Seems like the Google Machine's spot on, from a Car & Driver article .

My citroen won't start > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:19

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It's overly exaggerated protectionism, almost everything here costs double. And things that are built here are mostly shit.

Decay buys too many beaters > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:20

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Depends on the car, but yeah I usually think modded cars for sale are about 2-3X too expensive.

But then I am a cheap motherfucker with absolutely zero brand loyalty/fanboyism.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:22

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when I was looking for WRX's I found a few 08's They were $16-18k

E30Joe drives a Subaru > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 21:27

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Haha good one, but the WRX retains value because it has an Ej205 in it. The "Turbo Tax". Just like how an S13 has the "drift tax"

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > E30Joe drives a Subaru 11/04/2014 at 22:12

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Oh I see now! Hahahaha!!

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > My citroen won't start 11/04/2014 at 22:13

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I don't doubt it! Are used cars a rare breed to come by?

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Decay buys too many beaters 11/04/2014 at 22:15

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I'm with you. Upgrades don't do shit but worsen the value of a car. A car should not be modified unless it has been done professionally (even then, there are some that are awful). I have some fanboyism towards Honda, but I'm not going to pay $3,500 for a CRX that looks like it rolled out of the junkyard.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > jkm7680 11/04/2014 at 22:15

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MAYBE $3-4,000. And that thing has to look pretty mint, in my opinion. Also, people do not take into the mileage.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2014 at 22:16

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I think that is kind of stupid, but I guess I'm just a cheapskate then.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 11/04/2014 at 22:17

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STI that hasn't been driven to shit is rare. I saw a 2006 year, 20,000 mile example at a Mercedes dealership one time that was flawless! They wanted $30,000 for it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:18

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It's the price of reliability.

My citroen won't start > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:21

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No, but they are still expensive when compared to the US, there are many cars we never got here because of stupid import taxes, like Land Cruisers. Plus roads here are shitty and most of the mileage in our cars comes from city traffic, so cars lasting longer than 70k miles are rare.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2014 at 22:24

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But, Accords here are dirt cheap. Then again, they are crap. Price of reliability though... guess you can't go wrong with that.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > My citroen won't start 11/04/2014 at 22:25

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D'oh shit, then! Brazil does not sound fun at all. No offense.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:25

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Reliability and capability is what costs on a 4Runner.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2014 at 22:26

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And Jeeps, don't forget Jeeps.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:27

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Jeep is more of a 'Murican hype thing, more than reliability. They are capable, but they aren't great at anything else.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2014 at 22:28

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Haha true! I still think they make great vehicles, though.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:31

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*modified

My citroen won't start > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:31

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It isn't haha, it also doesn't help that we sometimes need to armor our cars because crime

Decay buys too many beaters > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:36

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I mean don't get me wrong, I've modified the shit out of my FR-S by myself, but I have no belief that I'm increasing it's value.

bhardoin > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/04/2014 at 22:57

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Those both seem like the standard going prices for those cars. I think you're just cheap, you're looking at some of the most fondly remembered cars of that era, of course they're going to be more expensive than beat to shit corollas.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > bhardoin 11/04/2014 at 23:04

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You have a good point, and some cars are really good at holding their value.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Decay buys too many beaters 11/04/2014 at 23:05

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And you've got the right idea! Sure, you'll make mods selling points because people like honesty but you aren't increasing the car's value from it. People will only pay a certain amount.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > My citroen won't start 11/04/2014 at 23:07

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Nope! Nope, nope, NOPE! Does Brazil have a Fuck Dat City somewhere?

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2014 at 23:07

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Once again, true.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/05/2014 at 00:10

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Cars are expensive in HK too. A 2 year old, F30 328i with 21,000 km costs $418,000. Or about US$53,000. Even a six year old E60 530i will still fetch around $248,000, which is about US$32,000. And of course, last gen M3s are expensive too - US$112,106.

bob and john > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/05/2014 at 01:31

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it pends on the car. go look at a older korean car or a american compact. waaayyyyyyyyy cheaper.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 11/05/2014 at 01:54

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DAMN! Dafuq?

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/05/2014 at 05:10

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Yup. Generally, German cars tend to hold their value pretty well here, especially when they're being sold by dealers. That's why a BMW i8 here costs nearly US$271,000.

jkm7680 > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/05/2014 at 07:16

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Also true, Plus these cars eat head gaskets like candy.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 11/05/2014 at 18:44

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The i8 is a very expensive car altogether, but I didn't think it was that expensive!

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > jkm7680 11/05/2014 at 18:45

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Subarus are notorious for doing that. Okay, so maybe throw that option out the window.

Tohru > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD 11/09/2014 at 18:02

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At one of the nearby Dodge dealerships, they sold this 124k mile WRX for $15k.

^ That's not vinyl, that's paint.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > Tohru 11/09/2014 at 21:19

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Well, the car looks terrible and it shouldn't be $15,000.