I Wanted To Feel Better About The Crossfire

"Milky" (jordanmielke) 10/20/2014 at 09:51 • Filed to: BRZ, Crossfire, Comparison, VS

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Inspired by !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! post (nice name BTW). I was even less biased though by putting the weight in there.

Sidenotes: The BRZ/FRS's torque comes in super high up the rev range & the Crossfire's axle ratio seems super low. If I found the right number that is.

titsinmymitts > Milky 10/20/2014 at 09:53

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3,000 pounds is not bad these days, tbh.

That low end power on the Crossfire probably makes a pretty big difference in daily driving.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Milky 10/20/2014 at 09:54

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DAT TORQUE

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Milky 10/20/2014 at 09:55

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Lol, like numbers matter.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Milky 10/20/2014 at 09:57

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151 @6400?! No wonder people point and laugh.

Milky > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/20/2014 at 09:57

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Put a mustang in this comparison and everything changes …. its all relative.

Milky > titsinmymitts 10/20/2014 at 09:58

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I'd say so, but I can also see the argument that its more fun/you have to rev out the BRZ.

Milky > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 10/20/2014 at 09:59

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Sadly there is always more to the story.

For Sweden > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 10/20/2014 at 10:00

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How can the BRZ's numbers be real if its head gaskets aren't real?

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:01

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oh of course. I've just been making fun of the BRZ/FRS's capabilities since it came out.

Shit, throw my Mercury Milan into the mix and it changes:

221 hp

205 torque

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:03

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You are missing a key piece of data though. On the subaru side you can put down "Not a chrysler product" but for the crossfire you have to say "Chrysler/Mercedes hybrid product of the early 2000s" and that might as well say "the fact that this is still on the road a decade later could be used as evidence of an almighty deity"

Milky > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/20/2014 at 10:05

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You really have to work work the gas pedal to get it to move.

Milky > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/20/2014 at 10:06

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Yea, the picture I stole used a Taurus. So basically the same thing.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:06

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Wow that is a tiny amount of torque. My pedestrian little Panda has 110 ft lb.

Milky > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/20/2014 at 10:08

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Bro, Wards Ten Best Engines three years in a row and the same transmission from the SLR.

COME AT ME.

titsinmymitts > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:10

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Ugh. Not as a daily. Had to do that shit in my old Accord. Felt about the same down low as my old Accord too when I drove it.

I often think that people who find ringing out the engine to get anywhere "fun" have never really experienced a torquey motor.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:13

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whoa whoa, the Milan comparison is a Fusion. I'm more nimble than that!

Milky > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/20/2014 at 10:14

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Shit …. morning brain struggles. Where is that caffeine at?

Milky > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:15

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It does seem to be the biggest complaint against it.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > titsinmymitts 10/20/2014 at 10:15

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Power high in the rev range on a sporty weekend car is great fun, but youre so right on it being bad in a daily. My girlfriends car has 0 power below 3000rpm and a bit more power (but still not much) at 5500. Revving the nuts off it constantly gets very tiring, the thing is at 4000rpm on the motorway.

Milky > titsinmymitts 10/20/2014 at 10:16

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On the other side I've never owned a car with a redline over 6,500 rpms. I shouldn't be one to judge.

JR1 > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:16

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Not to mention the Crossfire looks far better compared to the BRZ/FRS

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:20

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I think it'd be fun on track or a twisty road to have to wring it out, but for daily driving low down torque is a lot nicer. I'd sooner it was built for a little less hp and have decent torque at around 3000rpm than the way it is now.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:20

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lol, apparently not in your mug...

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:21

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Also a ward's ten best winner in 2001 - the toyota prius 1.5L four cylinder.

And really? That's a GOOD thing that you transmission is also used in one of the most expensive cars on the road at the time? Bro, I say BRO, MY BROSEF. BROSEF STALIN? MO LIKE BROSEF STALLIN AT THE LIGHTS CAUZE MAH GEARZ DONT GO.

titsinmymitts > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:24

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yea the last Si I drove was doing I believe 3600 RPMs at 75 on the highway in sixth. Got old fast.

Milky > JR1 10/20/2014 at 10:25

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Well clearly I am biased, but thank you sir.

Milky > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:26

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Being able to pull in gear in traffic is nice. I certainly won't complain about it.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > titsinmymitts 10/20/2014 at 10:29

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Ugh, I hate long trips in revvy cars like that. Especially older ones with not so good sound deadening.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:31

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That is why people like FiSTs better, 212 ft lbs is a hoot, 151 ft lbs is a chore.

titsinmymitts > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:31

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Yea my Accord used to beat me up. The focus st I have now is much better. Sits at 2800 rpm at 73.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:32

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Thats why I bought a diesel for day to day driving, low down torque makes town driving a lot more relaxing. The petrol version of my car has half the torque, test drove one and it got old pretty fast.

Milky > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/20/2014 at 10:34

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Point was that the transmission can easily handle 600+ lb ft to torque and therefore my 229 has no effect on it. Not to mention the engine is pretty basic too, no over head cams, timing chain not belt, etc.

Say what you want about the electronics in the car, but the drivetrain is strong.

WHY IS YOUR HATE SAUCE SO STRONG THIS EARLY?!

Milky > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/20/2014 at 10:40

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HALF OF 110?! Damn, merging onto the highway must be a stressful event.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Milky 10/20/2014 at 10:45

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It had 10 less hp too. 0-60 in about 15 or 16 seconds. Everything required a lot of forward planning. It got worse mileage than my car as well, getting the diesel was an easy choice to make...

 V8 Rustler > Milky 10/20/2014 at 11:07

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RazoE > Milky 10/20/2014 at 11:11

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Seriously? It only has 151 lb/ft of torque?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky 10/20/2014 at 11:17

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I will forever be the cold shower to calm down your raging crossfire boner.

BigBlock440 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/20/2014 at 11:46

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*2003 Taurus

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > For Sweden 10/20/2014 at 11:47

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We don't know if the HG is real or not on this one yet. I'll let you know in a hundred thousand miles or so.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BigBlock440 10/20/2014 at 12:03

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ok I'll give you that in size. I like to think it's at least a better car though...

BigBlock440 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/20/2014 at 12:29

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Couldn't tell you. I rented a Fusion once, never driven a Taurus though. Maybe?

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BigBlock440 10/20/2014 at 12:30

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Haha, my father in law had an 03 taurus for a while.

I assure you it's a better car than an 03 taurus. Size is relatively comparable, though I feel like the Taurus was wider, that may have been the fact that he had bench seats though.

Milky > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/20/2014 at 12:39

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Lol, I like my car but I certainly don't have a raging boner. I think you've missed a few posts I've made.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/my-baybey-is-g…

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/oppo-qotd-what…

Still realistically planning on upgrading next year.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky 10/20/2014 at 12:44

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NO! DAMMIT MILKY MAKE MY HILARIOUS SHOWER ANALOGY RELEVANT AND LOVE YOUR CROSSFIRE LIKE THE TRIPLE CUNTED HOOKER IT IS!

Milky > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/20/2014 at 12:51

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" TRIPLE CUNTED"

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky 10/20/2014 at 12:56

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Milky > RazoE 10/20/2014 at 13:33

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#ButItsARevHappyMotor

RazoE > Milky 10/20/2014 at 13:53

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Don't get me wrong, I'm still probably going to get one, but I didn't know it was that bad.

RichardNixon72 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 10/20/2014 at 15:31

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Like sales numbers, amiright? Go BRZ/FTS.

Destructive Tester > Milky 10/20/2014 at 16:35

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Am I the only one who can't look at a Crossfire without hearing Jezza compare the rear end to a "dog doing its #2"

Milky > Destructive Tester 10/20/2014 at 16:47

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Clearly not. But most of us have learned that he is a host on a TV show made for entertainment. Putting the wing up helps too.

Destructive Tester > Milky 10/20/2014 at 19:02

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It certainly does. For some reason that segment really stuck in my memory and I hear that clip in my mind literally every time I see one. Unfortunately, someone who works near me has a silver Crossfire and I see it most days.

Milky > Destructive Tester 10/20/2014 at 21:02

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Sees Crossfire daily

Unfortunate

????

Destructive Tester > Milky 10/20/2014 at 23:03

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Sorry, that came out wrong... I meant unfortunately for the Crossfire I have that thought on most days...