What does it mean to barrel a wheel?

"Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2" (pompei426) 10/14/2014 at 16:22 • Filed to: None

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I have an idea. I have the opportunity to purchase the wheels shown below. They are 14x5s from a 2000cs. My current wheels are 13x4.5s. So, they are an upgrade, but still relatively small. Anyway, I was on the BMW 2002 FB page and a member, who owns the car above, said that he took these wheels, and put them in a 15x7.5 barrel. What does this mean. Is it a 3 piece wheel now? What does it take to do this? I have a hard-on right now for what he's done to his wheel and I would really like to have something similar. Any ideas?

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:26

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The jist of it is that they cut the face off of the wheel, and reweld it onto a larger center section (barrel).

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole 10/14/2014 at 16:26

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^^This.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:27

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Took the inner web of the wheel, put them in an outer wheel with larger rim size. It can be done, if the outer diameter of the inner web is a size they have an outer part ("barrel") for. It's partly just a question of how deep the center mounting groove is.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:27

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They cut the barrel and widen it in the middle usually.

This is a pretty drastic example but the fresh metal has been welded in to widen the wheel. Usually it's only by a couple inches.

jkm7680 > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:28

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What Dukie said.

But I'm just dropping by to say those wheels look awesome.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole 10/14/2014 at 16:28

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So, wouldn't this just result in a wider wheel?

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/14/2014 at 16:29

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Gotcha, so take the center and weld to different ends.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole 10/14/2014 at 16:30

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That's what I'd thought he meant at first, but since this was also an upgrade from 14" to 15", I took it to mean in this case a swap of rim on his webs.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:32

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In this case. Normally, barreling would be what others have said, widening an existing wheel. I provided the definition here because it's more likely what actually happened. Webs get reused and moved to fresh exteriors all the time - at one time Wheel Vintiques required that you send in cores to get fresh baby moon style steelies. They'd save the webs and trash the outers.

Bytemite > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:32

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I would say don't bother since the 14s look great as they are.

camaroboy68ss > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:32

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looks more like old school "reversing". Cut the center out flip it and reweld it. This is do it yourself mod because hardly any shops will touch this due to liability concerns

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > jkm7680 10/14/2014 at 16:33

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I know, I really want to do this. Get the chrome lip ring and the hubs. Ohh, it would look awesome. Then I'd just move on to purchasing the shorty bumpers and removing my lower side molding and unnecessary reflectors. And euro side markers.

dogisbadob > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:33

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It's like barrowing a wheel, only better :p

jkm7680 > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:34

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Trim rings+Chrome dog dishes= Amazing.

Jonathan Harper > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:34

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Oooh that top photo give me the fizzy tingles.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:37

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I am just here to pay my respects to that incredible Cortina taillight 2002. That car is perfect.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > camaroboy68ss 10/14/2014 at 16:37

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The guy apparently was making 15s out of 14s, so the whole rim section was fresh and I suspect whatever width/offset he wanted. I have to guess money no object.

Tohru > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:41

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Then remove the kidneys and you'll be all set!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Tohru 10/14/2014 at 16:44

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OH GOD WHO STARTED THIS, and it's already been done

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 10/14/2014 at 16:44

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Yes it is

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > jkm7680 10/14/2014 at 16:45

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That's the plan, I just hope that money tree I planted in my back yard continues to grow throughout the winter.

KnowsAboutCars > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:54

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You can also increase diameter with stepped lip barrels this way.

RallyWrench > camaroboy68ss 10/14/2014 at 16:54

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What he said. My coworker just bought a similarly done set for his 122S:

RallyWrench > Tohru 10/14/2014 at 16:56

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

RallyWrench > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 16:57

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Why? If you're going to remove one of the cars' best features, just buy a 510.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/14/2014 at 17:01

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I'm kind of a moron when it come to this, but wouldn't that reduce the strength of the wheel considerably?

MIATAAAA > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 17:06

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BROWN Z3 LOVE!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > RallyWrench 10/14/2014 at 17:08

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I didn't do this. You know that's not what it looks like when you take out the kidney. And yes, the car is quite lackluster when you remove the kidney.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/14/2014 at 17:10

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Not really. The mounting groove depth varies between different wheels, and a 1" diameter difference wouldn't have a significant effect on the web's stresses alone. The web is already welded or riveted in place into the original outer, so putting it in a different one the same way makes no difference... if it's done properly. If you get a shitty weld, or a bad rivet job, or the web is old with some stress fractures you can't see and gets shaped just *slightly* differently to a new rim, something bad could happen. Not likely, but possible.

Tohru > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 17:10

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Tohru > RallyWrench 10/14/2014 at 17:12

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Tohru > RallyWrench 10/14/2014 at 17:13

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>best features
>BMW kidneys
>implying tiny grills are the best thing about a BMW

It's like you're doing my job for me.

RallyWrench > Tohru 10/14/2014 at 18:00

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Not all BMWs, obviously. I own an early 2002, and the grilles, to me, are one of the most distinctive parts of the car. Without them, as in those pictures, it just looks generic & bland from the front.

RallyWrench > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/14/2014 at 18:04

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I know you didn't. They just don't look right to me without them, especially the early cars.

Tohru > RallyWrench 10/14/2014 at 19:34

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Better?

RallyWrench > Tohru 10/14/2014 at 20:25

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Yes, actually. A little Edsel-ish, but still distinctive.

Tohru > RallyWrench 10/14/2014 at 20:49

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How about this?

michael bleggi > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 10/15/2014 at 15:49

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hahahahhahaha r u talking about what i tink u are

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > michael bleggi 10/15/2014 at 17:03

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Oh, no, nonono, not that, but lolz. I already have a guy.