Shit I Have To Put Up With: The Worst One Yet.

"Jay Lauer" (thefaultinourcars)
10/14/2014 at 12:31 • Filed to: None

This is by far the worst person I've dealt with regarding the sale of !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Particularly, because this is the first time someone has tried to forcibly command me to take their cash offer. EDIT: I should probably note the car is for sale for $11,800, as a reference to the offer.

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There's plenty of things I wanted to say, but I decided to just keep it cool. There seemed to be some sort of misconception to him that the car is a large burden upon me, which it simply isn't. Along side the fact that it's all paid for and does no harm to me sitting in the garage, it's still a blast to drive. I'd prefer to sell it soon, but if it doesn't sell in the fall, I'm completely ok with storing it through the winter and raising the price in the spring.

Also, cash offers don't phase me. Probably 80-85% of everything I've sold has been in cash. Everything I buy has been in cash. I don't want to sound smug, but I'm doing well enough that the prospect of $9000 isn't going to just make me drool and forget the value of the car.

Lastly, tip to buyers out there. Don't ever tell the owner what their car is worth. It isn't ever anything other than insulting.

Just though I'd share.

DISCUSSION (45)

Party-vi > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:34

Keep your cool. I have found that if you're polite a buyer may come back at a higher offer, and it also keeps the door open if you don't get any other nibbles.

Jay Lauer > Party-vi
10/14/2014 at 12:35

You're right, but I highly doubt he'll come up.

Either way, I'm not even entertaining his offer.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:38

That was...impressive? Like I feel like Ron Burgundy after Baxter ate an entire wheel of cheese and pooped in the refrigerator. I'm not even mad, that's amazing. "Your car isn't worth anything, now sell it to me!" is some next level, Jedi mind trick shit.

That said, 0% chance of me keeping my cool in that situation. Even if he came up to $11, I still wouldn't sell it to that jerk.

blackchair > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:39

When he said "Ur cars worth 10k, just take the 9k and move on" I lost it. This guy is crazy! Basically he said, "Hey there's a great chance someone will buy it at at least 10k, so logically, you should just sell to me for less..." Riiigght.

Ducky > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:40

Ughhhhh I wish i had the money to buy your car. Fucking gorgeous dude.

Whenever I sell cars on CL i use my Google Voice number and drop contact when they seem too retarded to exist. I don't deal with dudes who can't come up with real numbers.

jariten1781 > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:42

That's the worst you've had? Dude was pretty polite and not ungodly low.

Last time I was selling I had a guy meet up look it over. He went home then contacted a few days later saying he'd meet my price. Buttoned everything up drove out to meet him at Home Depot for the exchange and he brought only 50%. I was like...um no? Then he started screaming about how we'd agreed and he'd be suing me. Then stated he'd follow me home and just take the car.

Good times...I hate selling privately.

Jay Lauer > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
10/14/2014 at 12:42

I thought that a bit after I was done. Money still talks, so I'd probably still sell it if he came up to my price, but I'd definitely cringe at the thought of that asshole driving around in my car that I treating so nicely.

ttyymmnn > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:43

I'll give you $9001.

Jay Lauer > Ducky
10/14/2014 at 12:43

Exactly. There's people like this dude and then you'll get the well-spoken person who's reasonable. You just have to wade through the shit to get to that person.

Milky > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:44

Nah breh he right u shuld sell know n move on.

Gamecat235 > blackchair
10/14/2014 at 12:44

When I got to that point I just started laughing.

"So... I know I'm lowballing you, and here's proof I'm lowballing you, but I have cash, so give me your car!"

I mean, I subscribe to the "never hurts to ask" mindset, but dude... the line from 'you have balls' to 'you're just dense' has been crossed.

macanamera > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:44

Highlights:

"No one pays that much with that much miles"

"I have 9k personal cash"

"No loans no banks no head heads"

ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:45

Kinja'd!!!

That says $11k

Jay Lauer > jariten1781
10/14/2014 at 12:45

Holy hell. I've never had anything like that.

I've had a guy try to return a car two weeks later saying he didn't know the plastic on the fuel release door was broken, but nothing on your level.

Jesus, that's horrible.

macanamera > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:45

Wait, why is private party good condition listed at 10k?

MonkeePuzzle > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:46

Kinja'd!!!

its worth 10, you should take 9... what?

MonkeePuzzle > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:46

I do love how they think offering cash will help, yeah that's what I was expecting so...

Jay Lauer > MonkeePuzzle
10/14/2014 at 12:47

Fucking EXACTLY

CAR_IS_MI > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:54

I've had people like this before. I even had someone try to do this on my fully custom hardtail bobber built on a Yamaha XS650 chassis, pulling up values for a full stock XS. I usually just tell them, If you're truly interested in the vehicle, come look at it first, then we can talk money. I don't accept offers via text.

PS9 > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:57

Smartphones today have sophisticated programming designed to give user alternate word choice options when you type out an erroneous word. For example, 'ur' would cause the autocorrect software to offer at least three other choices for perusal. It would only take one other click to substitute 'Ur' with 'Your, You're, or 'You are'.

With that said, how does someone too dumb to spell 'Your' right, and too dumb to select the correct word when it is presented to him have the wherewithal to squirrel away $9k? I want to say he must be a drug dealer, but even drug deals take a modicum of intelligence and cunning to escape law enforcement/being shot to death by rival drug dealers, right?

RazoE > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 12:59

Will u take $7.5k cash if you bring it to me? Let me know, thanks.

As Du Volant > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 13:03

Lastly, tip to buyers out there. Don't ever tell the owner what their car is worth. It isn't ever anything other than insulting.

God, I wish our customers in the car business would follow this advice. They buy a car once every five years. We sell a couple hundred a month. Yet they know more about the car's value than we do?

Rainbow > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 13:03

I don't know why, but "no head heads" just made my day.

RockRam > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 13:34

Wow. This is why I never discuss price over the phone when buying or selling. Never ends well.

Jay Lauer > macanamera
10/14/2014 at 13:34

Who knows. Probably took off standard features. I have the KBB and NADA in the car

Jay Lauer > macanamera
10/14/2014 at 13:43

Highlights:

"Street Value"

"Times have changed trust me"

Take the money and move on.

I wish I couldve told him I know exactly what the times are like cause I sell a car privately about once a month, but that wouldn't have helped the situation.

Jay Lauer > RockRam
10/14/2014 at 13:46

I still do it when buying out of town, but nothing like this dude.

I ask about the car first. I certainly don't make an offer $3000 below. And if they say no, I say thanks and goodbye.

NaturallyAspirated > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 13:47

Yeah, I had a guy call me when I was selling my '74 Dart who insisted that since he didn't care how nice the interior and paint was, I should take those out of the equation and sell it to him priced as if it were a primered rustbucket. Still can't get over the presumption of that.

Pictured: not a primered rustbucket.

Kinja'd!!!

(I did ultimately sell it for what I was asking.)

Tohru > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
10/14/2014 at 13:49

At that point the dude could offer me $15k and I'd tell him to take his cash and jam it up his piss-pipe so it could keep his attitude company.

Tohru > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 13:52

"So, I don't have cash, but I have 3 cows, a goat, an 8GB iPod Touch 1st gen, a Mustang II front suspension kit, a YLOD PS3 with no cords or controllers, a box full of 1970's porno mags, the turbo from a Volvo 740, and a rusty 1981 Ford Ranger with a payday loan lien on the title. Even trade?"

RockRam > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 14:00

Yea. I wouldn't even sell to someone who would make an offer without actually judging the state of the car. That's how you know it'll be wrecked within a month

Jay Lauer > PS9
10/14/2014 at 14:04

Well he sold his old car. That's where the money came from.

Jon-o > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 14:37

what a twat. Reminds me of my university house mate trying to barter for my stuff I didn't want or need to give to him.

ACESandEIGHTS > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 15:28

This is EXACTLY why I got a Google Voice number to do my texting and calling on regarding Craigslist bullshit. Craigslist is the land of lowballers. I hate it. I won't use it anymore. I'm happy to occasionally buy something on there, but getting less so, owing to the sheer number of shady shitheads who troll it looking to rip people off.

Keeping cool is best, but I would definitely have considered blocking that guy's number after the third time he came back with a "retort" (honestly he sounded like a whiny little bitch the whole time.)

macanamera > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 16:05

LOL "street value" hahaha

everyone knows S2000's are worth less once they hit the mid level dealers and start getting cut into less pure S2000.

Tohru > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 16:35

Which was an '04 GTO with $5k worth of mods must sell $9k firm OBO does not run title missing great shape SUPER FAST manual trans power everything stereo and wheels not included no lowballs if you're not serious don't waist my time.

fishtankwog > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 16:53

Dude. Never answer anything after you say NO.

DanZman > Jay Lauer
10/14/2014 at 17:14

This kind of crap is exactly why I decided to just give away mu last car...

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/free-volvo-in-…

PS9 > ttyymmnn
10/14/2014 at 20:13

No, I'll give you $9001.5!!

Stay in Spool > Jay Lauer
10/15/2014 at 16:27

Should have taken the 10k, looking at local prices your asking too much.

Jay Lauer > Stay in Spool
10/15/2014 at 17:33

He only offered 9000.

Either way, I disagree.

n54 & s38 > Jay Lauer
10/21/2014 at 15:56

I just had the best car buying experience ever when I bought my M5 a few weeks back. I paid what he was asking. I probably could have gotten it for less but the guy was great, did a ton of work on it the weekend before I picked it up, had priced it very reasonably (probably a little too low honestly) and had written a thoughtful, detailed ad which made me confident in buying from him. He also had a bunch of local contacts for discounted parts/oil, etc. and threw in a bunch of extra parts. When I picked it up from him, as he was driving away, he noticed a leak that I would have missed. Came back the next day, pciked up the car and found and fixed the source of the leak. He didn;t need to do any of that but because I had treated him fairly and the whole process had been pleasant, he was happy to oblige. I ended up throwing him an extra $100 for all the work/time he put into getting the car ready for me before I picked it up.

Sometimes it pays to look beyond just dollar signs. too bad this clown didn't realize it. I love how he tries to bully you into taking his offer. Sounds like the type of dude who'll wrap it around a tree shortly anyway...

Jay Lauer > n54 & s38
10/21/2014 at 20:45

^ That right there is awesome. I can't say I'd ever be that overly-nice, but I like seeing it. I agree with all of that except I do really think it's worth at least $11k looking at dollar signs. He only plugged it in to KBB as 'Good' condition. The car's garaged and only driven on the weekends now really. I believe it's better than 'Good' condition.

ClipperGoodwill > Jay Lauer
01/06/2015 at 11:24

I realize this post is internet-ancient, but you should try flipping old fleet work trucks. Frustrating doesn't even begin to describe the misery. Me and a friend scored a batch of Ford diesels for dirt cheap, two 7.3's and a bunch of 6.0's. We got most of them running. Parted out one, and sold two as non-runners. Anyway, most of the contacts we got weren't even in english. That's part of selling trucks in the Houston, Tx area though.

Jay Lauer > ClipperGoodwill
01/06/2015 at 11:55

I've done one truck like that before, but I've definitely wanted to hop on diesel trucks. I just need to find one or some that need work.

People spend a fortune on diesel trucks here in the midwest.