An excellent write up on "Elitism" in car culture. Brought to you by MCM

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Take your time and read through this one. Mighty Car Mods dropping more truth. Check out their !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , it's great stuff. Original post !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

There's a culture that we often see in the modified car scene that maintains that unless you have [insert turbo car here] with [insert cool list of JDM mods here] that you are somewhat a second rate citizen.. It's a culture that we believe is unhealthy and not serving anyone well, except for the egos of the elitist minority who feel that their way of modifying cars is the only way it should be done. And to further compound the elitist regime, to truly qualify yourself as being passionate about cars, you need to spend all your money on [insert cool expensive JDM product here].

The assertion made here is that someones depth of passion is directly related to the depth of their wallet. Not only is it an offensive and grotesque attitude, it couldn't be further from the truth. As we posted recently: Passion is not about brands and parts and money. These things distort passion. It's about a relationship, in this case with the car.

Over the years we've been fortunate enough to have the unique opportunity to meet tens of thousands of people from all over the world who are into cars. All different ages, cultures and styles of modification. From local meets in Australia, through to meeting up with people in developed countries as well as third world countries. During our explorations of car scenes in different cultures, we started seeing a pattern emerging that was global. An over arching expression of pride and passion, irrespective of what kind of car we were looking at. We saw it with beat up cars in Indonesia. We saw it in Fiji. Canada, UK, USA, New Zealand, Japan, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore and while randomly meeting fans in rural parts of Australia while on road trips. It didn't matter what country we were in or what the age, sex or religion. It didn't matter what brand, year or budget was used because cars are the great equaliser. People just wanted to show us their car without prejudice or judgement because they were proud of it, and they knew that if they were proud of their car, we would be proud of them for building it. They were proud of it because it was theirs. It may not have been the car they lay in bed at night and dreamed about as a kid, but life, money, health and circumstance had led them down a different path. But there was still pride there and there was definitely passion.

We've met many parents who have brought their children to MCM meets. 8 year old kids who work on cars with their dad in the garage on the weekend. We've met quadriplegics who live and breathe for anything automotive. We have people travel from interstate on public transport to attend MCM meets. They literally walk from the closest bus stop because they don't own a car. We've had photos from fans in Afghanistan who have saved up to buy a MCM sticker and then many months later we receive an email with a picture of them with a huge beaming smile proudly sitting next to a rusted out ride with their new sticker attached. We've met people with a variety of disabilities whose carers bring them to meets and tell us that cars are the only thing that they seem to respond to. So are they somehow less passionate then the guys with the fat wallets? In our experience the most passionate people on the planet are often the ones that can't afford their dream cars and dream parts so they need to be resourceful. They are buying what they can afford and looking up to their community for advice and some guidance. At this point we just refer to them as "kids" and laugh at them. Are we going to tell them that unless they have stanced EVO, that they have no place being a car enthusiast? Are we going to laugh at them behind their back because they didn't save up and buy a $4000 JDM exhaust?

So what is a successful car in our opinion? Well it comes from creating something that serves its purpose. JET200 is an extreme Silvia built by our mate Andrew who helped us with our 180SX build. It's an iconic car which is an absolute monster. It's been on hundreds of magazine shoots and destroyed just as many super cars at the track. If we tallied the time, cost and parts of this Silvia, there would literally be enough money to buy a house. We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars and the same amount of sweat and passion spent by Andrew and his mates. Is it better than our Turbo Daihatsu Cuore? As a Time Attack car sure it is. Is it better at getting the shopping? No because its not registrable. So we need to define what a car is designed for, before we decide how successful it's been at achieving that. "…if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -Einstein

This culture of brand snobbery within the car scene exists on a scale similar to that of designer clothing. Sure its partly created by marketing and hype by the spinners of the agencies working for some of the big brands, but its mostly cultivated on forums and Facebook. If you post up your car and it has "fake wheels" or parts from China instead of Japan you are relegated to the second rate citizen without real passion, because "if you had real passion you'd work harder to buy better wheels". Really? What if I wanted to work harder to pay my mums medical bills? Or work harder to pay for my education, or my kids food? Or work harder just to survive? You work at the bank and I'm at high school so how am I meant to afford the same cars and parts as you? Why do I need $2000 rims on my $800 car? Am I not as passionate as you now? Just because my air filter is not a real brand?

So lets look at authenticity for a minute. I think it would be a fair position to claim a holistic view of authenticity of everything you buy and consume, if you are growing your own food and making your own clothes from the wool of a sheep you have at your free-range bio-dynamic off the grid farm. Nearly everything we eat is fake. It's made more consumable, and cheaper by modification. Watermelons mixed with cucumbers so they have no seeds. Genetically modified foods. Packaged precooked meals and "fresh juice" in a carton that has a use by date of 2 years! It's all cheap, modified, carbon copies of the original. So we're fine to eat it? But put a "fake" wheel or filter on your car and you've got no passion apparently. This is preposterous. I'm not claiming that packaged food is better or worse then organic food because each is just serving its purpose. Send a fresh apple in the mail to Africa and it would never get there. Send a can of stewed apple and it can be eaten years later. Which is better? Neither. They are each perfectly doing what they were designed to do. Do you know how old the "fresh" apples are from the super market? Old. Really old! Sometimes up to a year old. But you have to wonder, next time someone posts a picture of their dinner on Facebook, should we ridicule them if the beetroot on their burger is from a can? Certainly to be a true and passionate member of society they should be eating the real thing as grown without fertiliser on an organic farm, not some fake and cheaper copy. Right?

So why is it that some people are projecting an elitist attitude because their way of modifying a car should be a blanket philosophy that everyone on the planet should follow? Because they are misguided, generally insecure and have somehow forgotten that cars are for EVERYBODY. I can tell you that it takes more courage to turn up to a car meet in your mums Yaris than it takes to turn up in [insert cool JDM ride here].

The problem with this "we are more passionate than you" attitude is that it expresses an element of exclusivity within the car scene. "You can be a respected part of this community if your car is modified like this". Its horribly derogatory and demonstrated a sad, close minded attitude. We believe the car scene should be the opposite and we should be promoting inclusivity. It's what MCM has been about since the beginning and its why we regularly return to cheap "consumer" cars.

There will always be rivalry of course and this is good. (My album title "The Sea Brings Rivalry" is literally about imported cars) Marty has his preferences and I have mine and we treat our differences like friendly rival sporting teams, rather than this dark, oppressive Orwellian regime of conforming to the internets standards of modifying your car.

So what is our personal attitude towards building cars? You buy and build what you can with the money you have. You do your best to make it serve its purpose. You buy a Haynes manual and learn everything you can. You become a member of forums and meets that promote a positive and diverse range of views. Make mistakes. They are yours for the taking. They are valuable. There's lot of them waiting for you. And they are necessary. Be prepared for people telling you that your car is crap and that you did it wrong. And then decide whether you should listen to them or not. Sometimes their advice will be sound. Other times you'll realise they are just incredibly insecure and conservative about the decisions that they themselves have made and if they can convince you that their way is the "right" way, they'll feel better about themselves.

Ultimately, you need to follow your own compass and respect that other people are at a different stage, and on a different path.

Learn. Do. Read. Break. Fix. Explore. Save. Repeat until upgrade.

Unlike lavish boats and mansions by the sea, cars and their modification are not for the wealthy minority, they're for everyone, and thats why we love them.


DISCUSSION (54)


Kinja'd!!! Bird > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:11

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Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:17

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Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise
01/22/2014 at 21:17

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Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:18

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Awesome article! I wish I could do more with my car. I'm just starting to work on it myself and trying to save up money and time too.

You should have them email tips@jalopnik.com with the subject "syndication" to get it featured


Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:20

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Kinja'd!!! Sinanigans > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:20

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This was an awesome writeup. The flipside of this also applies. Just because someone has a really nice ride, doesn't make them an enthusiast.

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Except for the Prius. That's the Antichrist of cars. :p


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > dogisbadob
01/22/2014 at 21:21

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Excellent idea. Gonna try and contact them now.


Kinja'd!!! DasWauto > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:21

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I made a few edits because Kinja takes anything involving > and < brackets as html.

I just put back the [insert ... here] quotes with square brackets to fix it.

Also, I can't recommend their sentiment enough. The MCM crew are the best kind of car guys around.


Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > dogisbadob
01/22/2014 at 21:21

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Yes, a thousand times yes. This is just like the awesome manifesto all over again, and it would shut up the "I'm the kind of guy who looks down on FWD and less than 6 Cylinders" guys because, let's face it, screw those guys.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > DasWauto
01/22/2014 at 21:22

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Thanks man! Silly Kinja is silly.

Yeah, they're awesome dudes. Hopefully next time they do a Canada meet I can make it out and meet them!


Kinja'd!!! Tom McParland > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:27

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Great read...thanks for sharing!


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01/22/2014 at 21:27

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Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:27

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Kinja'd!!! BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:29

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Dat writing... Seriously!


Kinja'd!!! DasWauto > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:29

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Yeah, if they ever come to Toronto I'll make an effort to be there.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > dogisbadob
01/22/2014 at 21:39

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Also, I agree with you. I've done work on my car already, but being a full time student, getting the ball rolling on projects is a long process. I'm done piecing my audio system redo together (minus sound deadeing, gotta get on that), but school and fundage won't allow me to tackle it 'till spring time.

After I start working I'll be able to work on suspension, and exterior details. (I have a 04 Camry, I'm quite sure you have an ES300? Blood brothers.)


Kinja'd!!! Matt Brown > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 21:54

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Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > Tom McParland
01/22/2014 at 21:57

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No problem! I figured you all would appreciate it.

I emailed the guys of MCM about getting it syndicated on jalopnik. We'll see how it goes!


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 22:03

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Quick struts are your friend. Yup, I got a 96 ES300. Awesome car :)


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > dogisbadob
01/22/2014 at 22:07

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Quick struts are a Godsend, although my car only has 50xxxkms on it (30k miles I think?) so suspension work would be more along the lines of swapping out springs for some Tein S-Techs (1.8" lower, get rid of that high boaty look my car has, + improved handling) or Coilovers, if budget allows, and also bigger front & rear sway bars.

And those ES300's are sweet :)


Kinja'd!!! Maddox Kay > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 22:14

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Great writeup. I'd also add that different people are passionate about different areas of automotive culture. I've been chastised on VAG forums for leaving my car at the stock ride height, and I respond that I'm passionate about how my car feels, drives, and functions, not as much how it looks. Thus, I spend my money on performance parts, while they can spend their money on nice wheels etc. Neither passion is better, they're just different.


Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 22:16

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Wow that's low mileage!!! Well I guess anything is low mileage for a Camry hahaha; mine has 200k miles, so like 300k km

The only thing I don't like about it is the V6 difficulty getting to the back of the engine, but that's any transverse V6 not just the 1MZ. This is one of the reasons I like 4-cylinder engines better, because there's only one bank of cylinders, no taking apart the engine just to change the spark plugs, etc. Not to mention better gas mileage (I average 18 mpg, but I could get it in the mid 20s if I had more highway driving)

I kinda like the high stance the car has stock; the ground clearance rivals Outbacks and SUV's and crossovers and shit! My struts were still working, still had gas pressure, still damping, but one of the springs fell out of place and somehow destroyed the piston from mis-striking. It was actually the first major repair I did on my car.

And my beigemobile is only beige on the inside! On the outside, it's black and invisible on any non-snow-covered road


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > Maddox Kay
01/22/2014 at 22:20

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Very true, I can feel you on that one.

It all comes down to that there's no "best way" to modify a car, its all dependant on the individual. The best way for you to modify your car is to modify it how you would like it, and if you don't have the means, it doesn't make you any less of a car person.



Kinja'd!!! desertdog5051 > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/22/2014 at 23:20

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Truly well said, my friend. I don't know what else there is to say.


Kinja'd!!! Robert > Ravey Mayvey Slurpee Surprise
01/22/2014 at 23:30

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I recently saw Citizen Kane. It makes this gif so much more...excellent.


Kinja'd!!! Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/23/2014 at 16:29

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Are we going to tell them that unless they have stanced EVO, that they have no place being a car enthusiast?

Well, is a stanced EVO really the standard of enthusiasm we want to be using here?


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01/23/2014 at 16:35

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Kinja'd!!! Casper > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/23/2014 at 16:38

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I read this earlier and thought this is all true, with a but. I know people who have done amazing things with shoe string budgets and I know people who have made garbage cars with huge budgets. One thing I would say is that there is a huge difference between someone doing something the right way for their budget and someone doing something stupid and blaming it on their budget. There is nothing I hate more than someone defacing and destroying a car, making it worse, because they "don't have the budget" to do what they want so they are trying to fake it. A car maintained perfectly in original condition is worth far more to the car universe than a vehicle half completed with ebay parts all over it because someone was projecting their own personal insecurities onto it. The reverse is that I completely agree with their sentiment that it shouldn't be held against someone that they can't build xyz car into some monster due to budget.

Someone will get far more respect from me simply driving a 1991 Honda Accord with 300k miles, but looks new thanks to the blood, sweat, and tears, spent maintaining it than someone will buying an optioned Z06 off the show room and using it to degrade someones lack of resources. I would respect the Z06 for being a good car, but I wouldn't respect the owner at all.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > Casper
01/23/2014 at 16:48

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Very good points, I can't argue with you on that. I re shared it because I figured more should read (posted it later last night, not much exposure)


Kinja'd!!! feather-throttle-not-hair > Maddox Kay
01/23/2014 at 17:11

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BUT BRO, CUT SPRINGS BRO


Kinja'd!!! Übel > Casper
01/23/2014 at 17:17

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This. There is a big difference between doing something cheaply and doing something wrong.


Kinja'd!!! mr2gud2u > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/23/2014 at 17:32

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Preach!


Kinja'd!!! thebigbossyboss > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/23/2014 at 19:47

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Bravo! Bravo!! I agree wholeheartedly.


Kinja'd!!! brothervandweller > Übel
01/30/2014 at 01:17

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I Completely Agree with this article. I can care less about brand, I care about usefulness & integrity. I also care about unique cars, vans & RV conversions. I rather see a custom DIY unique live in van than some tricked out & branded Sprinter that some privileged guy owns.

I am modifying a 1986 DODGE B250 from travellers van to full time living van and barely have monetary figures for gas, so I do not have monetary figures for expensive custom mods. Like brand new starboard kitchenette & steel framed bed platform, for a 5000 "FEDERAL RESERVE" note used van professionally modified 20 years ago. The van runs, just because an engine sounds old doesn't mean it runs old. See my thread on cheaprvliving.com under conversion & mods, titled "1986 Dodge B250 Extended Bubble-top van for an unconventional guy".

Not related to cars but to the points in this article: Organic & Local is best, it came first. I much rather have orange juice from my parents house backyard tree than some chemical-preserved orangewater juice from the store. I rather know the truth and be depressed on the reality of things than to ignorantly believe lies and be blissful in a trance.


Kinja'd!!! terrencel > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 02:20

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Jalopnik is definitely in the pocket of Big Turbo, imho.


Kinja'd!!! theonetruetom > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
01/30/2014 at 03:10

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As much as I agree with you, this here is what this article is about. Don't judge, bro. I drive an E30 with a busted grille and a Fiero that's missing quarter windows and both desperately need a paint job.


Kinja'd!!! mwverheijen1 > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 07:39

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The MCM guys are great. They deserve the following they get! Check them out on youtube, well worth it.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 08:04

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I really like these guys. My three year old daughter loves watching their channel with me. She calls them the other car guys who talk funny (she's also a big Top Gear fan).


Kinja'd!!! juggaho > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 08:23

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So you're saying my $600 Moon JDM steering wheel and Gucci valve cover DONT make my civic bad ass???


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Kinja'd!!! The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 10:00

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You would not believe how bad this is on the Crown Vic forum which I will leave unnamed. Maybe it's because I've never been as active on any other forum since this is the car I've owned the longest, but it can get pretty ridiculous. Especially on a website where no ones car is worth more than about $6000 anyways, no matter how they modify it. It's like a fucking caste system based on the VIN number, where the P71 (Police Interceptors) are always inherently worse than the P72 (Fleet & Taxi) which are worse than the P73 (Standard Civilian) which are worse than the P74 (Upper trim Civvy models). I just find it very bizarre than when everyone is driving basically the same car, with the same engine and approximately the same performance, that people can be so vicious.


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 10:11

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Emo Phillips nailed it.

The closer our interests align, the more we disagree.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber)
01/30/2014 at 10:50

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I believe it, there seems to be a whole vicious hierarchy of models in a lot of groups, but it all seems so ridiculous where in essence you are all driving similar cars. VAG car forums seem to deal with the same sort of divide, from what I've heard from friends.

And I'd say the P71's are badass... Doesn't get cooler than the Police Package with the black mesh grille, bull bar, and those black steelies.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > davedave1111
01/30/2014 at 10:51

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Couldn't of said it better myself.


Kinja'd!!! avens > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 12:05

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Want more S2000 videos. And more, and more.


Kinja'd!!! Jorgey > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 12:58

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I've got a co-worker that is a Ford elitist to the heaviest extent. He constantly bashes anything not Ford. I wear a Chevy hat (I just liked the look of it), and drive a Pontiac G8. He constantly points out any Mustang he sees saying "Ooh better than your car." He'll even point at an F-150 and say that it's better than my car, because truck. Eventually you just learn to get used to it, but fuck is it annoying.


Kinja'd!!! GarageWoolery > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 13:21

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I would even take the point further and say that enthusiasm should be respected all across all the possible realms of car enthusiasm, not just in the "how you modify your car" area.

There's nothing worse in car culture than someone looking down at someone else's enthusiasm simply because their enthusiasm is of a different genre. Muscle car guys looking down on imports, classic car owners looking looking down at modern cars, purists looking down at modifiers, the list goes on and on...

If you truly think this article is wisdom to live by, I challenge you to remember its tenets next time you feel the urge to hate on a donk, or a lowrider, or a ricer, or a ratrod, or a [ad infinitum].

Appreciate the enthusiasm . That's what makes the car hobby so awesome.


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > Jorgey
01/30/2014 at 17:31

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PUNCH HIM IN THE OVARIES


Kinja'd!!! Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare > GarageWoolery
01/30/2014 at 17:35

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I agree. Everyone has their own taste, but we should really respect other enthusiasts tastes... at the end of the day, they're all cars, and we all love them.

It's just like a two dudes arguing over what 2 girls are hotter; yes you prefer blondes, I prefer brunettes, but at the end of the day, we all like the ladies just the same.


Kinja'd!!! GarageWoolery > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 19:16

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Well...unless one of us is gay. But that's different kind of donk.


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01/30/2014 at 19:20

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Kinja'd!!! Jorgey > Greenmobile Supremo Commando, BRZ Extrordinare
01/30/2014 at 20:58

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I'm saving that for my last day of work.