Possible personal stuff. . . not really though but kind of.

"YSI-what can brown do for you" (ysi-what-can-brown-do-for-you) 01/19/2014 at 23:20 • Filed to: None

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So here is a video I found, that I enjoy for some reason.

I wasn't feeling like cheery self. In fact I was really annoyed(observe angry) with everything. Which means I skipped nearly all my classes this week, and didn't come out of my room. I missed all of 4 classes. . . yeah it was bad. No matter though! I am pretty sure I am back and ready for action!!

The annoying part is, I am not sure why I was so sad. It wasn't even for that long. It was like for a week. I was happy the week before but not this week. . . strange. I blame the lack of interaction with other people more importantly the ladies. *raises eyebrows*

Either way, no more moping around, time to get back into action. Time to get in the swing of things and just destroy school!!!

Anyway thanks for listening.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/19/2014 at 23:31

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Well, if you lock yourself in your room, then there is no chance of finding the wiminz.

But if you go to class, then the chance become greater than or equal to 1%

Which also seems to be my odds, so you arent the only one.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/19/2014 at 23:36

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Well, it isn't that I don't have one currently. It is more, and I am a bit embarrassed to say this but. . .

In 21 years of time here on this earth(not including my time on Pluto obviously) I have never had one. So it is a bit discouraging. Particularly talking to them, which I am deathly afraid of. More so then public speaking...

KillerRaccoon - Group J's Sébastien Loeb > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/19/2014 at 23:38

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A lot of people in my family struggle with depression (mostly my father's side), especially my brother, and that's what you're describing sounds like. I'm glad that you're feeling better, but make sure to consider counseling/drugs if this ever becomes a common occurrence.

YSI-what can brown do for you > KillerRaccoon - Group J's Sébastien Loeb 01/19/2014 at 23:41

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It used to be a common occurrence. I felt like that for nearly 3 and a half years. I am pretty sure it was depression but I never told anyone so no one could really "diagnosis" me I guess. I won't let it happen again. I hated those years. My interest in cars fell for about a year(during the worst part), and when my interest came back at the beginning of college, and I was starting to become really happy slowly.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/19/2014 at 23:46

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Haha. Well your talking to someone who is in the exact same situation.

ive got 21 years and 4 months... haha.

The problem i have is similar to your. I dont know how to initiate a totally candid conversation. If they start it i can do very well. Im not afraid of being in the conversation its, like you, the "hey, those are some nice shoes"... etc...

What has helped is the fact i work with 15 other girls at my job. But now ive gotten to the point where i can flirt with them and not have any issue, but thats because we all have to interact with each other anyways. Plus its probably best not to date a co worker. So it doesnt really go anywhere when i think about it...

Now i still cant honestly go and use what ive learned in the real world, because i dont think im confident enough. The closest ive been is with 2 customers (separate times) where i was able to have a genuine hour long + conversation and we hit it off quite well and flirted a bit. But i didnt do anything to ask for their numbers... and ive never seen them again. =(

Its all very discouraging. Couple that with the fact the few girls that have flirted with me (without me going to them) we the types id rather not associate with. (drinking, weed, partying....) I just dont do that.

I just keep hoping one day ill have the opportunity and i wont squander it.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/20/2014 at 00:08

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What a strange coincidence!!! I was sure that I was the only person in their 20s that was womenless.

I am afraid of both initiating the conversation and actually talking. But the second is much less than the first. This is of course if she is my type of woman, otherwise I have no problems talking. . . still can't start a conversation.

I haven't had nearly enough experience in my life. The only time I have flirted with a girl was in junior year of high school. We talked for like 10 minutes and then I asked her for her number. She gave it to me, and I never followed up. . . turns out bad idea, she apparently liked me. Other than that, I have talked to very few women around my age at least. They frighten me.

My plan was to get a girlfriend before I turned 21 but I am coming up on that birthday very quickly(less than a month) and it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

I am also not big on drinking, drugs, or partying which makes it just a little harder to be sociable. Plus apparently everyone does it on campus, so I feel like that makes a bit stranger.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/20/2014 at 00:24

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haha not sure if youre being sarcastic or serious there, but yeah im womenless.. =(

"type of woman"... Thats usually a factor with me too. Ill admit its a bad trait to have. Its the trait where you designate girls into 2 types. Those who you think would be "dateable" and those who arent. Youre more apt to talk to the ones who are, and not care nor have any problems conversing with those who arent. And its not a hotness factor. I talk and know a few hot girls (and i deal with them at work too) and have no trouble getting into convo's with them. But i have no desire at all to go beyond talking friends (see: drinking, weed, and partying).

The "dateable" girls are the ones who trip me up. I fear that even if i do make any attempt at a 'move' (not a perv tool move, but just a complement) i feel like they will think its creepy or something. And i get worried, and flake out.

The thing is, i gotta stop thinking of them as dateable girls. And just girls. Talk to them first. get to know them. i may not even actually like them. But that also is the problem. Talk to them... and thats where im currently stuck.

Im becoming a bit more carefree in the "what will they think of me" dept, but i still have that fear. For example, ive made a deal with myself. There is a girl who works in a store a building over from me. Next time she is in my store, i am gonna compliment her and say something, because ive missed out 3 times already. You might say, oh, just go over to her store.... Well she works in a bra store.... Ultimately i am going to bite the bullet. Ive even got my managers trying to help me out. So maybe you should tell somebody about someone in particular you may be interested in. They might be able to help you.

Ive had flops like you had too. It as in high school and prom was a few weeks away. I gave up on the idea of prom simply cause i didnt have a date. And would you know, a girl i had a crush on a grade ahead of me, wanted me to ask her out. We never had really spoken, but she knew who i was and i knew who she was... And thats the closest ive come...

And to hit your last point. Dont make 'plans'. You will only let yourself down. Ive done that too. "maybe this year ill be able to make out with a girl on new years".... 4 years after making that plan ive gone no where... So dont make plans. It makes it worse for yourself.

I dont know. I deal with the 'sadness' that comes from not being able to like someone, and hang out with them (more reliably than the people you hang out with, if you know what im trying to get at). So i understand you being upset. Im upset a lot of days as well. I try to ease it by going for drives in my car, since thats the one thing i know that makes me happy. And then, i get sad again cause i wish i had a passenger queen... And the cycle starts again. But i know its my fault. And im the only one holding me back. And thats something i have to start etching into my brain.

sorry for the rants haha. Feel free to rant back. I feel better being able to talk to someone with similar dilemma. Cause no one i associate with has the same issue as me.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/20/2014 at 01:15

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Its not a big deal. I got to rant as well.

I don't usually go for the "hot" girls per say. I generally try to aim for cuter girls, it that makes sense. They just seem much prettier than the hot girls. Generally though, I am pretty lax when it comes to people. If I talk to them, I generally like them. It is very rarely that I actually don't like someone. This goes for women as well. Just as long as you aren't terrible then you are good to go.

My other problem is that I am very picky when it comes to the looks. Not terrribly picky, but I generally only like one type of look and that always makes it difficult to narrow down. I guess I am shallow, but I don't know.

The problem is, is that once I like them, it makes it near impossible to talk to them. I don't even know why. But they become the most fearsome thing I have ever seen. I feel like this can't be evolutionary cause that would just result in no one having babies ever.

I don't know. I just gotta get over the fear of talking to them, and it should be smooth sailing, but I don't really know what I will do after that.

You have something going for you and you have to jump on that ship!!! Nab her before it is too late!!!

BTW, totally being serious. Didn't think anyone else on here was in the same situation I was. Also, I think this may help you understand what I mean by type of woman.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/20/2014 at 17:41

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(i wrote a lot again....)

Let it all out haha. I can completely understand you. Your situation is nearly identical. Weve got our jobs, our car, and a place to live. I dont have much to worry about currently. But i still feel sad... i have no one to share any of it with. Maybe that your view on it too, idk.

Oh. I should mention there is a huge distinction between hot, and cute/pretty. Of course there might be that 1 in a million hot girl who could be a perfect match... but, its not likely. Then again, hot is subjective. But cute, maybe i could define as being: a girl who is not noted or liked 100+ times on her facebook pic. Tends to be a tad more conservative (per say) in appearance, yet individualistic, and somehow catches our eyes immediately over the 'hot'. In my mind, they arent the loud, talky to strangers, publicly outgoing. If that makes sense...

Also, ive said the exact same thing about looks. "does that make me shallow"... If i girl has a particular nose or general face complexion that 'irks' me (or looks like someone i know), for whatever reason right then and there, i have no desire to pursuit. Is that wrong? I dont know. It could be. And maybe im just learning. A friend of mines sister apparently has a crush on me... and looking at her, all i can see if my friend... And immediately i need eye bleach. She is hot, and falls under my 'no go' categories so there is no chance i am acting on any of that.

My problem is it seems the girls i have no desire about, are the ones that like me, and the ones i like, i have no clue how to talk to them.

Apparently our problems are normal... And we just gotta get over ourselfs. Whats the worst that could happen? We wind up on the 5 oclock news as pedo's? Yeah, thats probably the worst. Aside from a girl storming out and blowing up our cars. lol, so it cant be that bad.

I will do everything that i am able to do, without coming off as a creep of course. Im hoping one of my managers will get me a lead or something. Oh ive also ran into her taking out trash to the dumpsters. I opened the lid and everything for her, like a sir. I just forgot to compliment her....

Ahhh, so you like JDM girls? (hahah you know what i mean) You should come out to the east coast. There are lots of them around. Also, the DC area has a growing japanese population as well IIRC. Not my fancy, but i respect it. And that commercial was great. I was mad though, because the slo mo milk never hit them....

If i ever get out to the midwest, ill buy you a beer and we will cruise around with our loud exhausts trumpeting unique mating calls.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/20/2014 at 23:48

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Yup, I am the same way. Love where I live, love my car, love my school, love what I am learning. I have no reason to be sad, but I am. Not crazy sad, I just have episodes.

I agree with you on the cute girls. They aren't in your face. You have to do a double take, and then you go "Oh shiiiiii, guuuuuuuurrrlll" Plus their faces tend to have less exaggerated features. Probably, I don't know. Atleast that is what I think.

My friend says the same thing. Every guy is scared. But I am deathly afraid. Like I can't even say words. It is pretty crazy. I am not sure if any women actually like me or not. I am not really an extrovert and pretty much keep to myself, so I don't know enough people to know if someone likes me. . . if that makes any sense.

I am pretty sure as long as you don't come out and say "You will be mine. . .forever" you won't look creepy. Just be relaxed and make sure you look good. Turns out the worse you look, the lower the opinions people have about you(learned that in pysch a few years ago). The few girls I have talked to, didn't think I was creepy. . . and I am a weird bastard, so you have nothing to worry about. Just walk up to her, and do what you gotta do.

And I don't just like JDM girls. I love the whole eastside. Luckily I don't have to travel far. Purdue has a very big Asian population, like 7 to 10 thousand students here are Asian. I have always though it was a bit strange to like Asian women, but no one seems to make fun of me for it. . . at least my friends don't. I think they look great though, maybe it is the ones I keep looking at that make me think that.

And I will take you up on the offer. And vice versa if I come out to the east.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/21/2014 at 19:52

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Purdue Uni. You alright? considering what i heard in the news.

Episodes. Thats a good word. I dont feel as if i have depression. Its just every now and then i get sad. The weird thing is, i know why i am sad, but i let those feelings happen anyways. You get it.

Less exaggerated. Thats another good term! And your right. Their features tend to be bland. But in a good way. You make sense haha.

I love how we are very scared about talking to a girl, but wouldnt bat an eye driving triple digits in our cars. Or driving wayyyy to fast in the snow just for the luls. Just like today, i was ripping 2nd gear and sliding all over just to have fun. I wasnt scared. Yet, the thought of approaching and putting words together in order to communicate a thought, to a girl of interest.... kill me now. impossible! hahaa. I love our logic.

Oh yeah, at work i always look good (haha imo). Im like 2 totally different people at work and home. Especially if im working on my car, ill look like a complete bum haha. And Psych is awesome. Ive been taking those classes just for fun. And its really helped me understand my own problems to this issue. Maybe ill find my notes and tell you the things that clicked with me which helped me understand my own shortcomings.

Oh yeah. So i started my semester today, and in my photo class is this brilliantly cute girl. I also hate my logic because now, all i can think of is how to compliment her or say something nice or flattering to her. But i have to try and figure out a way to simply converse with her.... Im gonna do whatever i can to sit by her in the dark room. She is just gorgeous. Here we go again...

I dont think its weird to like asian women. Personally, i like the americanized asian girls who look like 1/3 or 1/4 asian, whatever that means haha. But its not my forte. Its hard for me to describe what kinds of girls i like, but its one of the you know it when you see it.

Here are pictures that seem to describe where my eye leans towards... (really its just an excuse to post cute girls haha) Sadly no cars. Girls in the car pics usually are just hot.

she likes hondas! haha.

and in my opinion, the best one, Zooey. She looks like a much nicer, overall classier, less aggressive or protrusive katy perry.

Also, your last pic reminds me of this girl who was in my psych class last semester who drives a galaxy blue brz, and from the sweatshirts she wore, runs cars on a track out in PA.... She even had a Flying Lizard Lemans sweatshirt! She smoked, and was of the hot variety so i had little interest.

last blurb. you live in lafayette (purdue)? Thats actually the town i live in... but in a different state.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/22/2014 at 02:43

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I am fine, but not so much for the guy who got shot. Hopefully his family recovers from this. This was not the way to go, and not for such stupid reasons.

Dude, cars are controllable and easy to understand. Girls are so much more complicated. Controlling a slide is 1000x easier than controlling your words.

At work, I look like a complete dork. Then again I work at Walgreens and T-shirt and khakis isn't the best combo. Plus, you have to be super helpful and cheerful to everyone so even if there is a cute girl there(rarely) then you just come off as helpful. Be lucky that you look like a badass, because you may work at Walgreens.

I am in engineering, there are very few women in my classes. Luckily I have to retake Microbiology(cause I failed it at the end of my pharmacy "career") and tons of women in there! Tons right up my alley as well. There was one in my lab, but I let that one go. . . you know like an idiot.

I like them like full on Asian, maybe I am crazy but it is what it is. Although halvezees are sexy as hell.

And I never need a reason to post cute guuuurls. It just what I do.

Even the hot Asians are pretty cute.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/22/2014 at 12:33

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Lol... Im sorry, your opening sentence was some very dark humor. Wonder if he was part of the mob.

hahaha i know right. Cars are like math. There is a solvable solution. With usually one or two answers. Not answers that can be half wrong and correct at the same time while still wrong. Also, you should post that quote to oppo. Thats some truth right there.

Well, if its worth anything my job is pretty much equal. I work in an outlet retail store that sells shoes and clothes. So technically i have to look good enough (jeans or dress slacks, and i usually wear a dress shirt (always leave the top 3 buttons unbuttoned haha) and im one of 2 guys there, so why not. I suggest some nice non-black color dress pants to wear, and some decent shoes. It pops your prestige up a little. Unless khakis are dress code.

I have to be cheerful and crazy helpful too... Moreso now that our company owner changed, and they want us to be just like stereotypical car salesman circling our prey and bugging them nonstop. I hate having to do that.

Good luck in your lab! Everyone in my forensics lab relied on me for a few labs because i was the only one who knew how to use seringes and a particular machine that everyone else couldnt be bothered with. Too bad there werent any cute girls in there, im sure it would have been a plus. So what im trying to say is attempt to help any of the cute girls, or possibly sit next to or near them so maybe you get in their group. Stack your odds.

"I like them like full on asian" LOL. Thats quotable too. You are brilliant! I do appreciate a true 100% asian girl. Very unique looking. I do have slight attraction to darker skin Mediterranean women like italian on even middle eastern but ive never encountered one who wasnt crazy hot...

Dude, did you notice the random sign in the background with the construction worker dancing along. hahaha

To me, all those girls look pretty close to the hot side.. Which isnt bad if i do say so.

Anyways, i always wonder this: do girls have as much trouble as guys with respect to our issue. I dare you to post that over on groupthink or crosstalk hahaha.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/22/2014 at 14:16

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Totally didn't mean it as dark humor, I just wanted to point out that someone got hurt when this occurred. I am not so good with this speaking thing. . .

I am going to try working in government lab soon, so I will never have to work at Walgreens ever again. Hopefully that works out, cause it pays better, and gives better hours AND gives weekends off. Like what is not too love. Now this isn't like the 70s they aren't going to experiment on me, so that is also a plus.

I can't stand working in retail, doesn't help I am very introverted and now I am required to talk to people. Blah. I am getting out maaaann.

Well you see the problem with sitting next to the cute ones is. . . now we have a seating chart and I am totally on the other side of the room. So now I have to help my lab group. Damn. Either way, it shouldn't be too hard.

See with Asian women, it is very hard to find one that is hot. They are mostly along the cute line, which is totally okay with me. And you didn't think those girls were cute? I thought the first was the most amazing thing ever. Maybe it is just me.

And statstically speaking, Asians girls are more common than most other types of women, so that means that they aren't exotic but rather the norm. . . no matter how strange they may be.

And I think women are more scared of rejection then men are. So no matter how scared you are she is probably 100x worse. So that is comforting. . . no it isn't.

Also, you should check out Northern Indian girls. We have a wheatish color to our skin and look fairly white(and not Indian). We have them white genes from way back. It kind looks like some Italian women. . . but not really.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/22/2014 at 18:26

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You said it correctly. I for whatever reason, found dark humor in the first sentence. Fugettaboudit.

Ohhh, a government lab... Sounds secrety.... I technically have an associates in criminal justice, but now i dont know i wanna do that. I have no drive or desire. Youre lucky you found something though.

Retail is not so bad. Especially when your only guy coworker in a car guy too. But dealing with people isnt bad either. Forgive and forget. Dont let your attitude come out. And all will be well. Plus girls. Girls that never amount to anything.... =(

Hopefully you can at least make an experience out of this lab situation. Even if it doesnt work, hopefully you can learn something. Also, seating charts in college! thats cray cray. My classes work like whoever is first in the room gets first dibs. If your last, youre sitting right infront of the professor haha.

Looking back, the 1st and last one were not really hot. More on the cute side. So i see a little of it. Its not i didnt think they werent cute, there is that line between cute and hot. Sometimes you can be cute with hotness, but usually you cant be flat out hot and then cute. Beautiful or pretty is a whole other novel.

In my particular area, i suppose, they are exotic to me. So i dont get to see many asians around here. Im only an hour from the nyc, but my town is like a section of the south transplated up north. I would agree some indian girls (of which you described, i know what youre on about) are verrry cute. I have only seen a couple at work. Never anywhere else. But due to the ruralness of my location, i never see anyone but caucasian people... I suppose it must be a psychological thing. You live with particular people for long amounts of time, you will take a fancy to them over something 'abnormal' to your perception. I rarely see asians here too. So that could explain it.

Interesting. You think women are more afraid of it? But they never go up and ask guys out. So i feel IMO its skewed. I just always wonder what a girl thinks if me or you went up to them and talked/flirted with them. What is the thought process!? I suppose thats the holy grail of conversion.

you and your gifs lol. Im afraid to ask how many of those things you have on your computer. Just make sure you discard of them whenever you get your future girl...

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/22/2014 at 19:16

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i couldnt edit, but i was watching a video, and this girl was in it. She is pretty darn cute. Juju Chan.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/22/2014 at 21:28

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Nah nothing secretive about it, the lab deals with taking solids samples from around the area. It isn't anything crazy, which is good.

It isn't that retail is bad, it is just that it can really get boring. I work at a really busy store and yet there is still a way to get bored. Plus, not a big fan of talking to people. I like doing my work alone. Like stocking at night when no one comes into the store, that is more enjoyable.

Maybe I can, but who knows. My lab is 90% women. I am one of 3 guys. Problem is, is that I am not open so I don't really talk to people I don't know. And the seating chart is there so you have a lab partner, all my other classes are a free for all.

From where I was there were very few Asian girls. Still thought they looked amazing. Then I moved to college and it was great! And I am glad you like Indian girls. I have never been a big fan. Even though I am Indian, our women just aren't for me. Mostly because I know what it is like behind the season. . . oh the horror.

Do you think they never go and ask guys out cause they are deathly afriad of us saying no? I mean a girl has no reason not to ask a guy out. I just think that this whole dating thing is not a good evolutionary trait. I mean we are only slowing down having babies.

I have zero gifs on my computer I just get them from the googles. Type in a name followed by gif and they just pop up. And don't worry, she won't find anything on here. Hopefully, and if she does then she has to show me where cause I have been looking for years for that!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/22/2014 at 21:59

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Thats pretty awesome, although labs arent my thing. I got through my Forensics labs just fine, but i didnt enjoyyy it. I missed using fire...

I hear you about it getting boring. Even if you have lots to do, you will find a way to be bored. I understand you whole outlook though. Sometimes retail jobs are just our connection to the next job.

Well, you have some good odds. I always just find trying to interact with girls in college classes very difficult, because i find very little BS time to talk and, well, bs with the person next to you. Lab is better usually because there is less lecturing.

I havent done the move away to college thing. Not sure if i will nor do i have a burning desire to do so. So ive been stuck with the local population for a bunch of years now. Nor that clean slate, new me point of view. You have that edge, so id use it.

Your women arent for you? Im scared to ask what "behind the season" is referring to... They cant be much different than any other women anywhere else.

I dont know? I think girls play the hypocritical card and say that guys have to ask them out. And then flip flop saying we would be sexist if we tried to 'pamper' or be 'chivalrous' to them. Its a secret double standard. Also ive asked my co worker who is a girl that question, and, she didnt really answer it, but she said she thinks it would be weird. Maybe ill ask another girl i work with. Dating is a weird concept to begin with anyways. Its all so confusing. And boy you seem quick to the baby thing, your 86 can only take two car seats!

Lol, i can only imagine the names you must google to find those one of a kind gifs.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/22/2014 at 22:46

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I would also stay local. You can save a bunch of money so that you don't have to pay for rent, which sucks. Plus your parents can help you with food! I try and take a few classes at my local college when I go back for the summer. It is cheaper than actually going to school.

I totally meant behind the scenes. All I can say is, after a few years they tend to gain weight at a ridiculous amount. It is funny, because it happens to all of them!

I honestly don't know how women work. My friends have had experience with them and for some reason they always choose the crazy ones. LIke right now, he is with a woman who says she wants him, but is with her boyfriend. Yet she refuses to break up with her boyfriend and flirts with other dudes. For some reason I feel like he should just break it off. . . Either way, the few that I got to know, ended up being kind of confusing, so I guess that is how it is always going to be.

I am only quick to the baby thing, cause. . . I don't know. But I definitely don't want a baby. My budget is already tight enough with rent, car payments, and mods(the three years it takes for me to buy one). I am not sure what a baby would do to that.

The names aren't that crazy. They are just your standard Korean/Japanese/ Chinese names . Usually.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/22/2014 at 23:13

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Which is exactly why im dreading having to move up to the 4 year school. Im currently at a community college, ill 'graduate' end of spring. So im trying to get as much car stuff in before all my money belongs to the govt haha.

Lol they all get heavy!? thats kinda odd, and funny. does that only happen to american indian women or also for the women actually in india? Im pretty skinny, so if thats the case, i may have to pass on the indian women haha.

Ive had a buddy who did the hook up with a girl who had a boyfriend. I thought all of it was wrong. He was wrong, she was wrong, and i feel bad for the boyfriend. Because i would be mortified if a girl did that to me. Sadly, we cant tell our friends how to live their life so he, and my buddy will ultimately learn the hard way. And hopefully it doesnt involve weapons, cause some dudes get crazy.

Dont let his situation determine yours. If you think that that, you will unconsciously lead yourself to do that. you had to have learned that in psych. Other people and their lives are not your life. Even i have to remind myself of that. Hence why i havent ever had a girlfriend. Hopefully i wont end up like those who did and then had 10 other girlfriends etc etc.

You dont want to have a kid? Who will you hand your frs down to! I totally want a kid. Regardless of how much it costs. Thats not the way to think about it. Its like a little you. And with any luck, that little you will like some of the things you like. My parents made me, so i owe it to myself to do what i can to have a kid (in the appropriate time of course, and even if its not, well. life goes on) There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a baby. Yeah its gonna take away from your car time, but its a sacrifice of love. If youre smart, you will be able to make it all work. Millions of other guys have their cars, and their kids. So its possible. But I gotta give my lude to someone! endbabyrant/

I wonder if those are their real names? And whats with the mustache pics... Do you like that?

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/22/2014 at 23:51

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They all get fat, well at least everyone in my family does. I am not sure why, I like to believe they think. . . actually I don't really know.

I won't tell my friend what to do, but only give him suggestions. I can't judge him, but I am fairly annoyed at him, because it is clear that the girl is definitely manipulating him. The decision is his, I'm only going to tell him my thoughts.

I try not to let their experiences dictate mine, but they have had so much more experience than me with women. . . so I am not sure what to do.

And I totally want a kid, but not now. When I am around 30, yes I want a kid. I love kids. I hate babies though, they are gross. They just poop and pee and throw up on everything.

What mustache pics? I didn't send you any mustache pics. Also, what?

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/23/2014 at 19:42

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stache pics.... .html

Telling our friends our thoughts are all that we can do.

" but they have had so much more experience than me with women. . . so I am not sure what to do" Is their experience what you want? With my friends, i dont usually view their relationships/experience as desirable. All i know is i want more or less, the opposite of what they have.

But for any of that to happen, we have to change our mindsets. And grow some balls. We might have some stupid balls behind the wheel of a car, but when it comes to girls, we need to find some. I am totally gonna attempt to start a convo with this girl in my photo class. Luckily my friend sits next to her, so ill try and get him to give me tips afterwards.

Im tired of always complaining, when its really just my fault (imo). I have been too shy all of my life. Especially with girls. Lets see if i can put my money where my mouth is.

Hows the 86 treating you this winter?

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/24/2014 at 00:01

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This is true, but I my family has very little experience with women. My dad and mom had an arranged marriage and same with my uncles and aunts. In fact the only person I know who hasn't is my second cousin. So, the only person I know how I can talk to women about is my friend. He isn't great with the ladies either, but he is better than me.

I however will try not to let my life turn out like his life. . . not that he is a bad guy(he is actually pretty nice) but I don't want to be like him, particullarly when it comes to women.

I never really blamed the women, I just gotta sack up. There is nothing left for me to do(besides lose like 10lbs) but go after them!

And the car is treating me. . . meh. I haven't driven it at all. I did once or twice but that was it. I am trying to protect from salt so it was public transportation for me.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/24/2014 at 12:37

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Interesting. arranged marriages. Your family hasnt swayed you towards doing that? And my family has been little help in that area too. So i tend to rely on my friends as well.

Well lets hope we can make some progress, even it is just a little.

Lucky you, i feel im slowly murdering my prelude in this salty deathland. I havent washed it in over a month, and since its staying below 20F i dont want to risk getting water in spots then freezing.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/24/2014 at 15:34

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My family is trying to make me do it. It is kind of funny because they kind of know I won't. Plus, they want me to go Indian. . . that ain't happening.

I wouldn't call me lucky. Waiting out in the cold is a pain. Remember those -20 below days that America had? Yeah, not fun. Although, knowing my car isn't being eaten alive is such a good feeling.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/24/2014 at 17:54

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"they want me to go indian".... you are too funny. Have they actually introduced you to any girls or brought them over? If thats how it works, im guessing here.

Lol i remember, i live in america too you know... And we had just about the same cold days as you (-5 ish haha). Plus for the next probably month its gonna be below 20F.... i cant take this. Oh and my accessory/ps belts are making horrible, deathly noises in temperatures below 10 when the engine first cranks over. At least im hoping its those belts and not the timing belt... -__-

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/24/2014 at 22:48

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They haven't done anything yet, I am not old enough. But apparently my parents talked to some other parents when I was a baby. They said I was going to marry their daughter, luckily my mom said "maybe"

It probably isn't your timing belt. Try greasing them up see if anything works. Also, my car likes to make sounds. But the fuel pump does that whenever it is cold. It makes it sounds like I don't take care of it.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/25/2014 at 21:26

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Your not old enough yet!? 21 isnt old enough? Interesting. Have you facebook creeped this potential person? And im curious, do you get the final say?

Greasing the belts? Then ill get grease all up in the inside of the hood. And all over everything else lol. My fueld pump sounds good though.

So i complimented this customer at work today on her earings. Nothing happened, but it was funny after i said that she dropped the credit card signing pen thing, and dropped her card, and started being a tad clutzy. Maybe it worked a little. Or im just taking things out of proportion. But the best part is im still alive, and nothing bad happened.

on a side note. the friend she was with was from my HS, a grade or 2 above me at the time. She was total goth in HS. black all day erry day. And when i saw her today, she was normal. white sweater, jeans. It was shocking. In a good way. Funny how people change to extremes. Its funny running into people from HS. Most got big beer bellies now.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/25/2014 at 23:14

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Isn't 21 too old? I always thought somewhere in the late 20s early 30s was a good time to get married. But an arranged marrige now is much like getting a date set up by your friends. Instead this time it is your parents. If you don't like each you say and then it is all off.

I don't know, maybe it worked. You never know. One way to find out though is to just go for the whole thing. As my friend's brother once said "Go big or go home" and then my friend proceeded to get rejected by a girl. We all had a good laugh, though. He bounced back, so he was all good.

I didn't have many friends in high school. Although, there are people I knew, and they all seemed to have gained weight, where I lost weight. I don't know why but that makes me happy.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/25/2014 at 23:28

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What age did your relatives get arranged married? Im just curious how it works. And 20-30 is imo the ideal time too. And ahhhh okay, so their is some say between the two parties, but only if both say so. Has that actually happened with anyone you knew?

Lol. I have to find the right words to say to a girl to take a full swing at the date thing. Because when im ringing the potential person up, i run the risk of making the entire transaction very awkward if it maydays. And then the potential loss of that customer coming back in to the store... And i can only do that if my coworkers and no other customers are close by. Ive set up quite a rule book unfortunately.

And yeah, i meant those people that you knew of, but didnt really know personally. Haha, i lost weight too coming out of HS too. It was rather satisfying seeing the star football people packing on some pounds. Me a lowly crosscountry runner back then was scolded for my choice of sport by them. The worst part is seeing all the hot girls turn into not hot girls. My neighbor, who is hot and my age, is dangerously close to falling off that 'cliff'... A cliff who my other used to be hot neighbor fell off. During her hot days, i got a ride in her new at the time civic si. she and her hot friend drove me around and they did a burnout in the road. And her boyfriend had the awesome wrx sti with the big wing, which i could never cop a ride in... Oh well, now shes not hot anymore.

Also, i kid you not, and indian man came into my store today with exactly the same mustache as the guy in your avatar pic. thats all i could think of.

lol ill stop my story times.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/26/2014 at 00:09

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My mom got married when she was 27. My dad when he as 28 or 29. I can't remember, mostly because his birth date doesn't actually have his correct birth date so we aren't sure how old he is. Funny thing my family is. In India, women don't have much say. Like it is there but not really noted. It is really sad, and kind of annoying. Luckily that is changing.

This is true, although you can't make it too awkward. Just ask if she wants to go out for coffee or something. I don't think that would be too awkward. . . then again I have never done this. I say do it and see what happens. You regret what you don't do!

Most kids at my high school drove around in standard first car sort of affairs. Well at least for high middle class people. From the 20 to 30 thousand dollar range. My friend had a 97 T-bird which never ran. It was a giant POS but we had fun in it, and still do. Just wish it wasn't so scary to do long trips in. I didn't have a car in high school, so I ended up saving all that money up for later(you know for my car now).

That is the standard Indian mustache fair, like most men have it and I don't know why. I think it looks goofy.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/26/2014 at 15:57

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Interesting stuff. And every country has their quirks, and is in the learning phase. A side note: My dad had a job offer to work in Mumbai about a year ago. After a few interviews he declined the job. Mumbai had a rather nice climate though.

I regret some of what i didnt do... Thats for sure. Asking someone out for coffe, is about the single most difficult thing i can think of doing....

Hahah, ive been in a few friends cars that im scared a control arm will fall off and we will veer off into a pole causing a firey explosion of electricity and fire. I went to my buddies going away party for bootcamp, and i had to drive this one kids jeep (as they were already all drunk at 3pm) to pick up more guys. It was a cherokee, it was gutted. The steering had so much slop in it you oculd quarter turn the wheel and nothing would happen. Sometimes it would randomly veer right or left. And for fun, while driving, the guy screamed and pulled the ebrake. Im like "WTF!!" and he's like, ohh im just kidding, the ebrake doesnt work.... Scariest car ive driven ever.

And i had a pt cruiser in HS... And i had to explain to teachers i actually waxed and detailed a pt cruiser.. Those were dark times... So its pretty much equivalent to not having a car, more or less.

the stache guy also looked exactly like thorny from super troopers. I dont think its that goofy. Not as goofy as some of the other facial styles i see.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/26/2014 at 18:47

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Mumbai is a fun place. Kind of. It rains all the time there in the summer though, so that is a downside. Place the crime, but that is secondary.

It is pretty scary, but I know for a fact that I regret not asking. Cause now I don't know if she would have said yes or no. Kind of annoying. Do it! Do it and hope for the best!!!

My friend replaced all his suspension parts, so now the car is pretty stable. Now his engine doesn't work. In reverse the whole car starts shaking as well, but only in reverse. Oh and it will keep the throttle open even when he is off it. I asked him if he has a throttle cable, he doesn't know.

I wish I had some sort of car in high school. Just cause I could go somewhere no problem. Although, my friends were very helpful, mooching rides off them. It worked very well.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/26/2014 at 22:27

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Well, ill definatly try to make some convo with the one girl on tuesday, so wish me luck. And hopefully you can make some effort to talk with the girl in your lab.

engine swap in a trans am couldnt be tooooo hard. Bandit did it.

I didnt have many places to go back in highschool. Never went to any parties or anything and i didnt get my job til junior year. Looking back i guess its the only way i afforded my prelude. I had no real social life.... prelude was worth it tho.

Ive got my first day in my intro to computer science class tomorrow. I cant honestly guess what kinds of people will be in this class.... Im willing to bet it will be a guy fest though.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/27/2014 at 11:29

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I could try, but that is going to require some skill. She is on the other side of the room! I am not sure how I would do it, but I might find a way.

I didn't have many places to go in high school either. I just wanted to go to Guitar center or gamestop whenever I wanted. I used to have a drum set but I sold that when I went to college, so I loved going to Guitar Center just to look at all I won't buy.

I am an engineering major, I know the feeling of a dude fest. There are like 3 girls in my math class :'(

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 16:14

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Lol if you are gonna make me do this, you gotta go make an effort with that girl.

My sister goes to guitar center a lot. She got her one guitar from there. And like you, just goes there to play all the instruments. I understand haha.

As i suspected. 1 girl in my intro to computer science, which actually turned out to be a class learning how to write JAVA... What programs can i write that are car related?

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/27/2014 at 23:59

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Haha, alright dude. I will give it a try. Although, I am not sure how well she speaks English. She is a quite the good looking lady though, so it is worth the shot.

The instruments are so much fun to play. Although, I was always a bit embarrassed cause I was never as good as some of the people there.

I am not sure what programs are good for writing code for cars. I want to say C++ but I really don't know. I will ask my friend tomorrow about this.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/28/2014 at 21:54

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Dangit. So i had my plan and everything, and well, i guess i forgot to include the variable "what if she never shows up"... and she never showed up. Oddly like 5 people out of 15 didnt show up. Photography isnt that hard!

But this girl doesnt speak english? Is she on some foreign exchange programs or something? If thats the case, no one is probably talking to her, and she would probably appreciate someone who could help her out.

Someone is always going to be better than you. Dont get embarrassed. Learn from them.

I am a code newb... so i have no idea about anything.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/28/2014 at 22:23

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No one showed up in any of my classes. It was fracking cold out. My breath was freezing on my beard, that's how cold it is.

She isn't foreign exchange, she is just one of many of the Chinese students here at Purdue. We have a pretty big population. They generally talk to each other, which kind of sucks. The other nationalities from that region aren't really like that. I have a Taiwanese friend(also drives an FRS) and he speaks perfect English and knows a bunch of non-Asians. Also, here is his car. I am a bit jelly, he has nice wheels, coilovers, LCA, and an exhaust :'(

Someone is always better than someone else but that doesn't make me any less embarrassed. Hell, when someone new is in my car I lose some of my smoothness while driving a manual.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/28/2014 at 22:46

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Hahah it was only about 8 degrees this morning for class. Not terribly cold. But my shifter was so stiff this morning. I had to double clutch for quite a few miles. Plus its been so cold my ebrake light stays on after i put it down...

If they only talk to each other, it can be annoying sure. But that means in some odd way their is safety. You might be the only one to actually go and talk to her outside of her circle.

Ohhhh his car is my personal favorite color. Love those tires. Look like racecar tires. And that reminded me, i just took this picture this morning. This is the brz the one girl drives who was in my class last semester. Shes got limo tint all around and it looks killer.

I dont have many other ludes to be jealous of. So its mostly im jealous of people having buddy cars, like you. My only hope is to somehow make contact with this girl who has a prelude locally... Initial attempts have already failed. Next attempt will be the tri state prelude meet.

You should go to a gt86 meet now that i think of it..

Lol when anyone else period, is in my car, i somehow forget to shift smoothly. I never notice it when its just me, but my passenger will move forward/back between gear changes. It always looks violent haha. I always like to roll backwards a lot on hills if its the first time theyve been in my car. Just to see how they react.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/28/2014 at 22:59

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My car has the same problem. Sometimes it doesn't even want to go into second, so I skip it and go to third.

True story, the real question is does she want to talk to someone outside her circle as well. It is really a strange deal. Only one way to find out.

His tires are all seasons! He realized his mistake when we went autocrossing together. Luckily it was wet so he was just as fast as people with slicks on. I will be getting wheels soon, probably these , with some nice sticky summer tires. It all depends how much I get back on my tax return.

I am pretty much jealous of everyone's car here at purdue. Like the C63 AMGs or our latest edition a Shelby GT500.

I would go to some 86 meets, but I am never sure where they are. I should probably look on the forums, they usually do stuff like that.

I remember my sister riding in my car for the first time started freaking out when the car rolled back on a hill.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/29/2014 at 15:22

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no way haha, i have been skipping my second gear too. Makes me feel better im not having trans problems.

You wont know that answer until you go and find out. I wish you luck.

hahahaah all seasons! Howd he not know!? Just keep thinking about your wheels and options. Dont rush into this purchase either... I dont know if i want to go with full on summer tires on my 2nd set of wheels or not... Is there like an intermediate between mud/rain and summer?

My college doesnt have that many high end new cars. Its more of a modified crowd here. Which isnt bad either, it makes things interesting.

Look on facebook. Im sure there is a facebook group for an owners club in your area. Kinda like how i found a new jersey prelude club, its just a bunch of us who go places as a group in our state. And forums usually have a subforum for meetups all over the country. Definitely go to one. Its good fun. Im going to a prelude BBQ in NY in may. Stuff like that is always great.

hahaha its also funny to watch how people get in our cars since the roofline and floor are much lower. btw how to you get in your car. right foot in, butt on seat, swing other foot over? or Butt down first and swing in your feet? Some really low cars ive been in you have to do the 2nd. However, if its a miata, i dont have to use a door haha, leg over and im in.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/29/2014 at 16:11

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I am going to formulate a plan, I will try and talk to her. There is a lot of walking in lab, so there are many opportunities.

Well there are different types of tires. Summer tires are usually for temps above 40ish degrees and are pretty good in the rain(depending on how aggressive they want the tires to be). Now a max performance tire is one that doesn't care too much about rain performance and focuses more on dry grip. If I were you I would check out Hankook RS3(pretty aggressive, life is okay, and grip in rain isn't the best but it is doable), Michelin Pilot Super Sports(Probably the best for a DD, quiet, long lasting, and good in the dry and wet!). So depending on what you are going to be doing choose between those too. The Hankooks are cheaper but don't last as long(15 to 20k) where as teh Michelins arebasically warrented up to 30K.

TLDR: buy michelins for a DD, and Hankook for weekend car.

Also, I don't want to spend a lot of money on wheels. 1500 is too much. I am looking at a 1000 or less for a good set. Besides, it will look great and I will be a contender in STX!! I do wish they made these wheels in 40mm offset instead of 30.. . to much poke.

Meets are also a good way to get a good idea what you want to add to your car. So I would love to go to one. I know there are some big 86 meets but those are over in california. Maybe Chicago will have one too.

It honestly isn't hard to get into a car. People just refuse to listen to me, when I tell them how. Seriously, one foot in, plant butt on seat, and then other foot in by lifting !!!!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/29/2014 at 18:06

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Much luck is wished upon your endeavor.

idk.. Michelin and hankooks i dont have much liking towards. Im pretty impressed by the falkens i used and may look for those or better. And continental made a DW or dw sport or something like that which was praised very well for longevity and performance. It going to come down to tires to run in the warm months and tires to run in the winter tho, so no crazy sticky compounds.

Whats a stock offset for an 86? My offset is 42 for stock wheels. which is actually a lot apparently. and whats STX... im not familiar...

Im sure you will have a midwest mega meet or something like that. Start looking now because these bigger events are usually planned 3-4 months ahead of time.

hahahaha. its not hard at all. Every now and then i hit my head because sometimes i forget im 6'2''... But now i like getting in a low car. Feels more normal. Its beginning to feel weird getting into mid height vehicles.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/29/2014 at 20:48

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Buy a set of aftermarket wheels, use those for your summer tires(make them nice and wide) and use the stock ones for your winter wheels. They don't have to be expensive either! I have decided to go with a 800ish dollar wheel for summer wheels.

Anyway, on to the tire. If you are running the same tire all year, get all seasons. I personally like stuff by Michelin(besides the stock tires on my car, they are terrible. Both in the cold, wet, dry. . .everywhere really.) I have Bridgestone Turanza currently, and I think they are great.

I would also like to point out that Hankooks are the meatiest looking tires , plus they are the best summer tire if you don't care about life.

Apparently there was one in Chicago , and I totally missed it. Oh well though, hopefully this year there is another. I love looking at what people have done to their cars.

I am 6'1" and I had no problem climbing into a Lotus. I am pretty sure people can climb into my car no problem, if they just tried.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/29/2014 at 21:57

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lol... im working on it. First, suspension. Tint. Then wheels. Before that though i gotta do brakes, and stuff. But it would be my 3rd set of wheels... and 800 is where id like to be... with tires preferably, because id be buying used wheels.

Ill do more research on the tires when i get there. Right now im in the dreaming stage.

"best summer tire if you dont care about life" lol... ummmm that sounds sketch...

Yeah meets like that are real fun. You start talking with people and you will soon find someone who is pretty chill. Then, you can hit those people up to cruise with you to the other meets and shows.

never been in a lotus... only miata.... and 1st gen rx7... =(

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 01:15

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Yeah I am working the other way. Wheels and tires, brakes, and then suspension. The stock suspension is already pretty good. I want some coilovers but good ones are expensive. I am looking at KW V1, want a 0.8" drop but more importantly better springs and dampers.

I am also at the dreaming stage, I want Hankooks though, and by life I meant tire life. . . not your life.

I don't know why, but I feel like most FRS owners are tools, but that may just be the forums. Lots of people with not a lot of taste.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/30/2014 at 20:54

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yeah... coilovers are not cheap. I decided against 'true' adjustable coilovers. Im just gonna go the upgraded top quality shock, which the koni has like 20 or 30mm of adjustment. Now i have to find the appropriate spring that suits my needs.

Some prelude owners can be like that too. Personally i met one lude owner who thoroughly touted and enjoyed his "r34 body kit"... poor prelude. But most are usually down to earth.

However did you see regular car reviews video on the brz. "you can fit in with the subi guys... one of us.. one of us... one of us... one of us...." He was spot on with that line.

But just go to a meet. It could turn out to be a bunch of swags. Or it might not be.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 21:15

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That is a cheaper alternative and probably just as good if you get it right. I know Bilistein has amazing shocks but at 900 dollars for a set, might as well get a good coilover for a bit more. I don't know if they make it for your car, but Fortune Auto 500 makes coilovers for about 1200 dollars, not cheap but atleast it isn't KW prices of like 2 grand. Either way, they make quality stuff for fairly cheap.

Do you have picture of said R34 prelude? I must see, it has to be hideous. There was a FRS owner who put 20s on his car. Must say, it was the worst thing ever. Or another that dressed his up like a Ferrari.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/30/2014 at 21:37

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Bilsteins make a set for mine, but even those are 300 bucks more than the koni's im looking at. And the koni's are really good to begin with. At only 600, im okay with that setup being not crazy adjustable. Its not like im slamming the car. I just want a little extra. My dad actually lowered his e38 on bilsteins. For well over half the price of OEM bmw shocks, they are perfect. Id rec'md bilsteins to anyone.

No pic of the body kitted prelude. It was on his phone. And i really didnt want to trade numbers with him.... But here is a good r34 prelude kit for your troubles. however this looks good, imo.

Are those 20's on the same outer diameter tire as oem. Its crazy thin. The problem i have is he doesnt appear to be lowered. Those wheels only work if you tuck them, stance style. But i like his tint. Get that on yours, looks good with orange and will compliment your black wheels.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 21:45

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Don't you have to cut the stock strut up to install the Konis? That is what you have to do with my car. I think Bilstein has some of the best dampers out there, great for a DD and good in the canyons as well. I think I might get springs that drop the car maybe 0.8". I know that is specific but that is the perfect height for handling.

That doesn't look half bad, but it has the conotation of being something it isn't. And I might get tint, if it will add to the look of the car. I am not 100% sure though, cause orange wasn't a popular color so there aren't many pics, although I think it looks great with black wheels!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/30/2014 at 22:02

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Not to my knowledge, and no one on the forums mention that. So im guessing its plug and play.

And one thing i keep trying to remember is that i know i can go change things later, so your .8 in drop at first may be what you think you want, but after you personally go and drive around with that, you could find you want lower or higher.

Well to me the prelude is just the poor mans skyline, in terms of style. So it flows.

I want tint really bad cause i just hate people being able to look into my car when its parked, and when im driving. Plus i want one of those windshield unibrows to help with the sun. And it will keep the interior cooler during the sunny hot days. To me tint is more than looks.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/30/2014 at 23:25

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Yeah that is the problem with springs, cause they aren't adjustable. Although I read somewhere that coilover companies love putting adjustable height into a coilover cause it saves them development money. I personally like it that way, so no big deal. Although I find 0.8" to be a nice mild drop, and won't ruin the handling by going to low, so I might go that route for a year or so until I decide to get coils.

I don't mind people looking in, I just hate them trying to decifer my life by looking for too long. I personally like tint for summer days though, that would be excellent!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/31/2014 at 22:52

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I dont mind the non adjustablility, so longs as its at a height im okay with, which it seems it is, so im not concerned. Plus, Tein discontinued the adjustable coilovers i was planning on getting from them... And as expected, prices of remaining sets have skyrocketted.

.8inch on my car would be almost unnoticeable. I have lots of wheel gap haha.

I would almost be okay with this height, so long as i didnt have to drive the car in the winter. And thats about how dark i want the tint haha.

Lol, i dont think i have enough random crap in my car for people to decipher my life. Its actually pretty much spotless, just a roll of paper towels behind my seat for the occasional spider, or bird crap on the windshield. what all do you have in your car?

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/31/2014 at 23:23

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What size wheel are you deciding to go with, when the time comes? I am sure you are going to try and fill the wheel wells like I am.

I think KW V1s are height adjustable but those are entry level KWs and they are 1500 dollars. They came out with some STs for my car, which are basically the same thing except for stainless steel they use galvanized. See if they have something similar for your car cause they are 800 bucks and they are great!

I have literally nothing in my car, it is pretty much empty. Except during summer months when I have school books in there.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/31/2014 at 23:39

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My preferable wheel size would be the 17x7 or if they even make it a 17x7.5 . Offsets are the other factor. I don t want to go much bigger and wider than that. Currently i have 16x6.5's. Any bigger and rubbing issues will arise around full lock.

I go look around to see if KW has anything. But the koni's im looking at are about 560. So sub 600. And have been proven by many prelude guys to be one of the top 3. I havent heard of KW's on the forums, so they may just not make them?

i think we are just as bad as women and their particular shopping habits. I know because im the person helping them shop. haha.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 01/31/2014 at 23:47

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I should be happy that Toyota made such large wheel wells for this car. You can got up to 19x9.5 and run a 235/35 tire and have no rubbing issues(kind of, depending on the offset you may rub on the suspension). I am not going that big. I am probably going to be doing 17x9. Best for STX class in SCCA autocross(forgot to answer your question from before).

If it is anything over a grand it isn't worth it. But if they do make something for your car, it is always something to consider, their ride is as good as stock but they also make the car handle much better!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/01/2014 at 22:34

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Lol. Yes, take full advantage of that, because for me to run wheels anywhere close to where you will be, id have to do a bit more than bolt on the wheels.

I looked at KW website, and they dont even make anything for any prelude =( Its non existent on their lists.

Their products looked really nice too. O well. I just want winter to be over so i can put my front lip on and change all my fluids and brakes.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/02/2014 at 00:47

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Have you decided on wheels yet? I don't know what I want to get. I want to keep wheels and tires below 1000. . . but that won't happen probably. Enkeis cheapest wheel is 1000 dollars and the tires I have decide on(Hankook V12s) are 500 bucks, mounted.

I am probably going to be done with mods after wheels. Should keep me happy, a nice loud car with some fat tires for the track! Then I can focus on making cash to pay of the rest of the car off. My fat stacks from high school won't last forever for car payments.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/02/2014 at 22:18

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No real decisions yet. Honestly, it will come down to whatever i find at the most affordable price. I just have options id be willing to buy if an opportunity presented itself.

I dont think ill ever be done toying around with my car. Every now and then unique an interesting items pop up on the for sale section on the forums, and i gotta get it. One day ill be done, probably when i get a second car, and then ill be buying new stuff for that. The never ending money spending cycle.

Go get a 2nd job at campus, since i assume you cant work at your store during the semester. Keep making bank.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/03/2014 at 00:22

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I wouldn't be done toying around with a car either, but I don't know I am not quite ready to change everything out on the FRS. Part the fact that my parents did pay for nearly 2/5ths of the car(those fat stacks from high school. . . yeah no they are gone, I lied. I am a bit embarrassed to admit but my parents helped me buy the car and by embarrassed I mean, I won't tell anyone I drive an FRS).

Also, I have a second job soon at least, in that lab! It is going to be great!!!

Also, I wrote this. Light on the writing though. Read and tell me your thoughts!

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/alright-so-how…

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/03/2014 at 16:54

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DONT MAKE ANY QUICK DECISIONS! i need to say that before i go on and explain why. But Dont get rid of the frs. You are going through (oddly enough) an identical situation i went through.

First things 1st! Dont be embarrassed! If my parents would have bought me a car, i wouldnt have been any less proud or excited. I feel you have a more mature attitude and can appreciate things like this our parents would do for us. Others, can abuse such caring parents. You are falling victim to that stereo type that "mommy bought my car". Hear me out. I for one dont look down upon that (and no one should care to be honest, its not their life). Everyone in the world lives different lives, and lives in a different economic state of living. We will always hear more about the kids who abuse the privilege of getting a car bought for them, and conversely we always hear about those who complain about those kids because simply, they cant get the cool car too. Its not your fault for having the caring family you have. Dont let people make that a negative. If any one of the 'haters' was in your position, im certain they would have done the same as you, accept their help.

2ndly. Just because something is not totally yours, doesnt mean you cant care for it and enjoy it. I dont usually talk about it, but my granparents gave me their pt cruiser. for free. My parents couldnt just buy me a car, and it was an extremely beneficial gift for me and my family. I had your exact feelings myself. yeah its a pt cruiser, but its the going through the motions which is not any different. I almost attempted to sell it. I wanted to get rid of it sooo bad. You dont know how embarrassing it was to DD that thing. BUT! As much as i really didnt like it, i cared for it, repaired it, put money into it (gasp!). Yes, i purchased things for it i could have spent elsewhere. I genuinely became a part of that car. I was protective over it. Just like i am with my prelude. And when i lost it due to the flooding, i was genuinely sad for a bit. A car i had no initial investment in, a car that was the opposite of everything i liked, a car who's quality is surpassed by a Lada. I missed it.

Now i will also tell you this. I used that car to save up lots of cash for my prelude. Its the only way i could have been able to buy that car. 8400$ wasnt cheap, and that was even over my budget. I borrowed a grand from my parents and paid them back a few months later. Anyways, i had that car for 2 years, worked my job, and bought the 2nd car. few months later, Pt got totaled. That should give you the time scale.

So after that babbling. what am i trying to say?

Dont get rid of the frs. Primarily its a stupid move monetarily, (unless you are paying crazy 80% interest or something). You have a reliable, DDable car that will not let you down, and is loads more comfortable than any s13 or s14. (remember, you'll be chauffeuring your future girl around in this, you want her to be comfy)

Next reason is because its like a gift from your parents. Dont look negatively upon that. I would have had massive guilt laid upon me if i sold that pt cruiser, because i would have felt like i had taken advantage of my grandparents. (also, get this, after the pt got flooded, and they found out, they were gonna come up a week later to give me their BRAND NEW (less than 3,000 miles) 2012 civic for free.... I hadnt told them about the prelude at that point, and thats actually when i had to tell them. I actually felt guilt when i bought the second car. I was worried they would think i didnt appreciate their gift. (i was going to give that car to my sister, but still). Your FRS is a gift from your parents, i dont know about you, but thats an awesome car to start with, a car id take over an s13 any day. And id feel kinda guilty about selling it.

Let me also say this. I feel your, maybe its guilt, but the need or desire to OWN to buy outright with your hard earned cash, your very own car. I get that! i really do! And i know exactly what it feels like to accomplish it. I also knew what it felt like to not accomplish that. Knowing both sides of the field, my advice is as follows:

-Keep the FRS. pay it all off, and enjoy no car payments. Modify, have fun, just as if it were your own car. because IT IS YOUR CAR! your parents dont use it, im sure they dont hold it as leverage over you. Be real here, its a gift they gave you and dont expect anything back. ITS AS GOOD AS YOURS! it may not feel like it, but trust me, its okay to be in a situation like this. Contrary to the haters on the internet (and real life).

-Save money. work, and search CL for that fun 2nd car. the s13. Im sure your parents wouldnt have as big of an issue if this was only a "tinkering car". Even propose it as a thing you and your dad could work on.

So you can understand some more real world numbers. I go to college. I work. And i have the car i bought out right. Car was on my dime, as well as all insurance and yearly registration, gas, every maintenance cost plus my goodies. My family helps me with 1,000 a year for school books. The rest of the tuition is coming from my pocket. I have no debt, at the moment, but when i transfer to the 4 year school to finish the degree, im gonna have some nice hefty loans for sure.

YOU on the other hand, have been graced with your parents being able to help you out here. No college bills are awesome. I am happy for guys like you who can do that, because i hope i can give my kids that chance. There is nothing wrong by having your parents pay for things. Its totally their discretion, and obviously they feel you deserve it! You have done something to make them want to give you these things, or at least help you out.

Try not to make some irrational choices here. If i sold that pt cruiser, and got my, maybe 5K, for it, it would not have been worth it. I wouldnt have been able to get a nice prelude. I know its hard living with the fact the car is not really yours. It never feels like it, thats for sure. But dont let that stop you from enjoying it like it is.

You would miss a lot of things going to an s13. Thats why i wont sell my prelude for one. The car i have is loads better than any beater drift missle i could buy. I still want one, and will get one as a 2nd fun car later on, but honestly, you would miss your frs. I guarantee it. Im sure you and that car have already had some particularly memorable monents. And thats why i miss my PT sometimes...

anyways im done. haha, i hope you dont sell it. Its good to get the feelings out, and i did the same. But go back and logically think about what your doing. You are like a math major, logic is the life. You can logically keep the frs and buy a 240 if youre smart.

im done, for real now.

The grass is always greener my friend. So it seems.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/04/2014 at 19:19

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Well let me defend my reasoning here. First, it feels like I am using my parents. I got 2/5ths of the money from them AND they pay for my schooling(not my books or rent though, although for the last 3 semesters, I paid a total of 600 dollars on books). Also, the haters do get to my head. I don't like going to car shows with my car, just cause I don't want anyone to know. Same with autocrossing. Although, everyone seems friendly enough.

And yes, this car has already created some memories and I have done quite a lot with it, and a lot of firsts. Even if I sold it and got a new FRS, it just wouldn't be quite the same.

And I still would like a car I could work on. The FRS is great but I can only work on it when I buy new parts, and that is just about once a year. First the catback then the headers, next will be wheels. I want to do something MAJOR, but not the best idea if the car is a daily.

I really want an S13 project car now. It will evolve along side the FRS and I think they look great!! To bad everyone uses them as beater drift cars. They are a great platform to make into a fast track/autox car!

Oh, and I did talk to some woman, although it was for a few minutes. Made her laugh a few times though. Good feeling were had. Oh and thanks for the typing, it really did relieve some stress.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/04/2014 at 22:39

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I understand how you feel like you are using your parents. I do. But dont think of it like that! They certainly dont think you are using them. So dont let your mind live that lie. They obviously love you enough to want to help you, like i mentioned in great detail before haha.

Dont let the haters get to your head. A good buddy of mine bought an 2010 A3 brand new. His parents were well off enough for him to get that. All my friends have no respect for him, but they dont even know the kid! They only know 'of' him. He is an awesome guy. He is into cars like us, and yes, he may have bagged his low mileage A3, but i dont see why where the money comes from matters! Its simply the people who cant afford the car they want, or are jealous of them, are the ones who speak the loudest. You cant blame him for his parents helping him in his purchase. Nor can anyone blame you for your parents help. America today is very hateful of well off families. Its like they hate success. And its sad, because those people are like everyone else. And just like everyone else with kids, they/we want our kids to have the best they deserve.

Keep the FRS. Dont be ashamed of how you got it. Maybe channel those emotions and feelings towards the purchase of your dream drift missile. Seeing what you are describing from a 3rd person POV is very clear on my end. Be logical! I understand it might not feel right in your heart, but clearly no one but yourself has an issue with it.

"i dont like going to car shows with my car" You will be very surprised to know that there are more people than you think who have gotten 'aide' for their fun cars. They will never admit it, and neither do you! Keep in mind, you still dont have to tell anyone! Its none of their business anyways! Just say you financed it, or something if you must.

You have the same logic behind why i only want to do a few key items on my prelude. Its a DD until i can find a beater.

You will still find an unmolested s13 if you look hard enough and long enough. I mean, it took me a whole year of non stop searching within 500 miles of me to find a dam prelude. And last i checked, they made more s13's than 5th gen ludes, so it should me much easier.

A few minutes is all that matter! To me that 30 seconds, or even 10 second exchange is a huge morale booster. Little things like that help us the next time.

my woman story for today involves my film photo class... We were developing our film, and i got to go into the darkroom (which is pitch black, cants see anything, nothing!) with my buddy and these two other cute girls. How they didnt evade, i dont know. But they were super friendly and of course im taking this wayyy out of proportion, but it was fun to have to have them reach around trying to find your hand to give them something, thusly grabbing it and such.... (lol, thats bad isnt it) I also had to hold back my inner michael scott and keep the "thats what she said" jokes away, because these girls said some hilarious lines trying to get their film rolls out.

Oh yeah, and get this. the only girl i really wanted to talk to in that class, ends up dropping the class... Now ill never see her again. F me.

Youre welcome! I hope that novel didnt bore you. Just be reasonable about what you are doing. And remember, its okay to take the help from your parents. They are setting you up for a much more successful future. Plus you get an awesome car in the process.

Im just glad im not the only one with the same problems at times.... girls....Cause the friends i talk to all have GF's and they are no help really... Also tell me if im talking too much haha, i feel bad for rambling sometimes.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/04/2014 at 23:47

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I have a similar thinking, when it comes to people and their cars. If they take care of it, and love their machine who cares how they got it. Like all the exotic owners at school. I get annoyed because you see them go unwashed for months and their wheels have curb rash and there are scratches on the bumpers. It is more the fact they don't seem to care that they have cars that are worth as much as houses, take care of them!!! That and they are more for looking cool, rather than enjoying. . . then again I guess they are enjoying it.

I am definitely going to keep the FRS, for how long? As of now, I want to keep it forever. Slowly making it a race car over my life time.

As for the S13, I want to make it into a track day weapon. An autocrossing machine! Drifting, is fun, but I will leave the FRS for that. I already do a lot of sliding during autocrossing! Finding an S13 that is unmodified is very hard, and a clean one for cheap is practically impossible. I am thinking about getting a sub 1000 piece(which is very common) and fixing everything. Learn a little about mechanics in the process.

I say go for the jokes. Usually, most people laugh. Just don't do it too often. Oh! And don't make the jokes offensive. While dick jokes are funny with dudes, girls may not take that as a good sign. Unless of course you don't like them, then go all out on the most offensive things you can think of.

I was just sitting around hanging out with a friend, but he was with friends that I didn't know, so she walked up to say hello and then asked how I was. So she started the conversation. Hopefully I will see her again, apparently my friend sees her a lot soooooooo I gotta get on that(but not like that. . . but maybe in the future, I think you know what I mean).

And I am one of the few friends who has never had a girlfriend. I usually don't talk about it to many of them. Except for one of them, but I have known the guy for 5 years, so I am pretty comfortable with him.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/05/2014 at 00:17

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Sadly we have no control over other peoples cars. We can only hope that one day, they will put it up for sale, and we can convince them to give it to us for 'good price'... haha.

Good plan. Keep it as long as you can. Im planning on keeping my prelude for as long as i can too. Im always on the lookout for an s13/14 for a grand. Thats about my cheap car challenge. I have to just remember i want a drift car, and not a bro truck. Let me tell you, i am torn between them. Something about a bro truck is just awesome.

Im not much of the joker.... I cant come up with good stuff impromptu like everyone else. I always end up getting a punch line like 5 minutes later, and by that time, no one wants to go back to that conversation. I do have trouble getting girls to laugh, at least the ones i want to talk to.... And yes, i know to censor myself in front of women. I dont curse in real life, and certainly not in front of a girl. And i stray away from sexual jokes because its not tasteful. And oddly, when i get into a convo with a girl i dont like, the uncensored content usually draws them closer.... i can never win.

Hopefully you can see her again! Make a point of saying hi to her, because the first time you blow it off, you become even further attached and soon youll be back at square one. Keep up the good work.

I only talk about it with one of my more long time friend. Everyone else just doesnt seem to relate to this issue. They take for granted what we are struggling to find. It annoys me. But i gotta stop thinking like that. Im the only one stopping myself... gah, the truth is annoying too.

anyways. id have an s13 coupe, cause the tail lights are just like my preludes.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/05/2014 at 01:24

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Hahaha, you like bro trucks? Got any reason? I mean if they are made to off road, then yeah they are badass! Also, what type of S13 are you looking for? I want a coupe, but a hatch wouldn't be bad either. I really like the rocket bunny kit for the car though. In my dream mind, I would love to add this too my car, but without the rivets. The lights on the S13 would look great though!

I try to never curse, but it has been on the rise lately. I think I have said "prick" so many times, but it is just so much fun to say! My vulgar jokes are more for my few friends. Cause I know they know me, so they won't be offended and just think "what the hell is wrong with you?"

As for jokes, you just have to have a sense of humor. You don't have to be funny, although I am sure you are. You might be like me, and just not tell people out right what you want to say.

My long time friend is very helpful and pretty truthful, he keeps saying "the only reason you don't have a girlfriend is because you don't talk to anyone!" He is also very good at not being a dick so that is a plus. My other friends, I just don't feel comfortable talking to them about this.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/05/2014 at 16:43

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My dream bro truck is a Cummins diesel dually 2dr long bed. With a moddest 3-5 inches of lift. Just like drifting is silly, i want to be able to blow nice black smoke out of the exhaust, and have that glorious sound of a turbo whine, like a jet engine. I know i probably wouldnt off road it, but id build it so it could. I dont know, stuff like that is crazy attractive. Just like a loud exhaust, except you can create a smokescreen! win win!

Any s13 coupe really. Heck, id even take an hatch if it was in my price. Im not being picky with this. I just want a RWD, semi reliable, anything for about 1000. Ive even been looking at volvo wagons, mustangs, and mr2's... But nothing. Im just really in love with the tail lights. Its like a mirrored image.

I love those rocket bunny kits too. I dont really mind the rivet parts, but they can look tacky depending on what the rest of the car look like.

Ill drop a few cusses online, but in person i wont. I dont think of prick being a real cuss. idk, its different. Regardless, ive never used it.

I have a sense of humor for sure. And its probably that I seem to have trouble putting my thoughts into direct statements (mostly when talking to a girl of interest). Ill always mess up what i really wanted to say. i dont even know why! which is annoying. I talk to hot customers at work all the time, and can speak perfect! Even if im at work, and a cute girl is there, i can still talk perfectly to them. But outside of work, its like im an entirely different character... Maybe you understand the work/outside work personality.

I can relate to the not talking to anyone. I really dont outside of work. My excuse so far has been in college, no one really talks or has time to BS in class anyways, so it a lost hope. I suppose its a fear both me and you must overcome.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/05/2014 at 22:26

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I am actually worse at work!!! I never talk to customers, other than the "hello" and so on. Same with my coworkers, I am nice to them but it took them nearly 4 years before I decided to open up to them! I guess I am just shy. A bit too much to be honest, which is strange cause most people in my family aren't. I am like the only one.

When a girl walks in, I usually don't talk to them. They are pretty much the scariest creatures in the world. Now if a woman I would be interested walks in, I just avoid her. I am strange like that.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/06/2014 at 12:50

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Work is like the best place to learn. I mean it certainly helped me, as i work with 98% girls. Since you are all working there, you have to interact with each other to get things done. So its like forcing you to be less shy. That theory applies to the cute customers as well, since its my job to talk to them, i dont feel afraid cause im just doing my job. Outside of work, im pretty reserved... But im working on it.

Girl vs Woman. For context, ive been interchanging those words. However are you using them as completely separate terms?

And dont avoid them. Like i mentioned its your job, kinda, to talk to them. Take advantage of that to boost up your interaction skills.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/06/2014 at 14:26

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I have also been interchanging those words. We aren't old enough for them to be women but not young enough for them to be girls. We are just in between.

I am pretty reserved everywhere! I take my time saying things. Thinking it over a few times before I actually say it! At work, I only say what is appropriate. Luckily most of the people that come into where I work are either old or hideous, sometimes both. Very rarely does a girl my age come in, and if she looks good is 50/50.

And this is the catch 22. I need to boost my skills to talk to girls by talking to girls, but I can't talk to them. It is a never ending cycle.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/06/2014 at 21:11

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Chicks. Is that a good compromise. Or how about broads? How come no one uses that term anymore?

Haha, its a pretty good 50 50 split in my store too, but the proportions are much larger since its mostly women who shop there anyways.

i hate our catch 22's. The only way to fix our problem, is by confronting the problem. The problem is inherit in itself. I know this cycle all too well. But maybe start by talking to girls you would have no interest in whatsoever. Sounds blunt, but could work.

also, i know you dont like indian girls (so you say....), but have any tried to talk to you? Another question, would you date a 'white' girl? I mean no offense by those questions, im just curious.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/06/2014 at 21:29

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My friend suggested the same thing, just start talking to women you have no interest in. Maybe I will try, but I am not big on talking to random strangers. I am not just shy with women, I have a hard time talking to everyone!!

I have hung out with Indians for the last 20 years of my life! Most of them are alright. . .probably. There were a ton in my family though that were just the worst, turned me off talking to Indians in general. Although there are a few glimmers of hope, like my cousin who is a ton of fun!

As for the White girl thing. Well my parents said "You can date whoever you want, as long as they aren't Asian, Mexican, Black, or Muslim" So basically white people and Indians... my parents might be slightly racist. Either way, I am not against dating white women and neither are my parents. I just have a very strong attraction towards the Asian ladies. Don't know why either, I just kind of always liked them.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/06/2014 at 22:04

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In your case, start with class questions to them, and move on from there. I notice peoples tattoos alot and i will ask them questions about it. I love tatoos. I cant wait to get one. So i love talking about them. And that convo usually lead to other convos' like work, cars, etc.... Also, talk with your coworkers!! They will begin to invite you places if you become good work buddies. Or even if you ask them to tag along to a car meet or something.

There is something to be said for wanting someone with a personality or character that is the most opposite of your family or friends.

Is you family very traditional indian? by that i mean not overly americanized or immersed in 'american' culture (if that makes sense) (whatever american culture might be). I only ask because from how you describe your setting, you seem like the odd one out. Not in a bad way, but like you want to live your own.

Lol, just those 4 types? You should come home with a cuban, or jamacian of pacific islander descent. That'd be kinda funny.

Also its not really racist. Its just how they were brought up. Everyone in the age range of our parents have ideas based upon how they grew up. Its just odd to us, because the world is so different now. There is no explanation for attractions. I have an odd attraction to russian women for what i do not know.

Also, we gotta remember. We might have this perfect image for whom we think we might like. But the actual person we may end up finding, could be entirely what we never thought she would be like. Its never what you think its gonna be. Which is a conundrum by itself.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/07/2014 at 15:21

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Well I do talk to them now, after 5 years of being around them, I would eventually open up. We always have a good laugh, we like to laugh at stupid customers. Like a guy who walked and bought his date Listerine cause she had bad breath. . .

My entire family is super Indian. I only know of 4 people that married outside the race. Hell even my cousins who were raised here are going out with Indian women. My parents were born and raised in India, so they are extremely Indian about everything. Some of that probably rubbed off on me, but that isn't always a bad thing.

I guess that is the case. My parents don't really have a problem with anyone. I have brought all sorts of people over during my high school days. They liked them all!

I completely agree with you on the last statement, but if I only chase the Asian ladies, I am probably only going to be going out with them! Besides, I have dug myself to deep in with my friends. If I go out with anyone else they will laugh at the irony!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/07/2014 at 17:43

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Listerine for a date. lol.

Its not a bad thing if it rubs off on you. Thats what makes you who you are.

Haha, dont be pressured to do something because you friends will mock you for going back against what you said. That'd be silly. The goal is to find a girl who you like, and likes you. Id rather them laugh at me for the irony than be stuck alone just hoping.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/07/2014 at 19:51

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Yeah, but I need to get a woman first. I only really talk to one person, who I would consider a really good friend. The other two. . . well one is an asshole and no one likes him(I don't even know why we hang out with him, I just avoid him) the other I am friends with but there is still some awkward moments I guess you could say. Either way, I wouldn't really be embarrassed to date a white girl, but for some reason I don't see it happening just because of what I like. . . if that makes sense.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/07/2014 at 20:05

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I totally understand your outlook on it. I guess what im trying to say is dont shut the door to everything and keep yourself somewhat open cause you never know.

I try to do the same but i too have an image in my mind of the 'perfect' girl. Of which i try to seek out. Nothing wrong in that. I just hope that perfect girl finds me attractive...

Some of my friends i have awkward moments with. I think its mostly because theyve gone away to college and now we rarely talk. So its not like it used to be. However i only have 1 buddy who defies that, maybe its because me and him both do the car stuff. I helped his roll his miatas fenders a little bit, JDM style yo. aka with a pipe. haha. But people come and go, but you will try harder to keep in touch with those who are truly friends.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/08/2014 at 20:12

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I know what you mean, and I won't after all, I desperately need a girlfriend. Not to say I will settle, just that I will broaden my horizons.

I also have the image of the perfect woman, but I am not really very picky so it is a wide variety of people.

I am generally not too awkward, but these guys are inherently awkward people. Like I said, I hate one of the guys and he has the ability to stop any conversation that is happening. It is amazing. This isn't to bad with friends but with other people it is cringe worthy. All of my friends aren't really car guys, which sucks cause I can't talk to them about ideas I had or cars that sound great.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/08/2014 at 21:14

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I feel like i am desperate too, but thats a bad position to set yourself up in as well. gahh its so complex. This is honestly the only issue i feel worried about. Everything else in my life doesnt seem to worry me.

Heres a question for you. Age. Does age matter to you in a girl, whats your 'age cap'? A few girls i really liked, who i may have had a chance with ended up being like 3-4 years older than me. And me being 21, they seem so much older so i gave up on that. And then there was an girl 3 years younger who had a crush on me (worked in a store next to me) who i wanted no part with because of her age. What say you?

Hey, one of my good friends who is into cars, was someone in my old circle of friends who we never talked too. One day i mentioned a car, and he chimed in, and from that day forward we have been good and better friends. And my other car friend happens to be my coworker. Just be observant and you might find someone in your circle could be a car geek and you wouldnt know it.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/10/2014 at 17:27

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I am basically in the same place. Although, I could make a few more friends, couldn't hurt.

I think if you are like 25 and she is 22 that is fine. Even 22 and 19 because both of you are similarly matured. If it is like 18 and 15, then I might be a little wary. That sort of difference is much different than something like 25 and 22.

Most of my friends friends are mostly gamer type of people. I haven't met one that actually like cars. Actually, I did, but then he graduated college. So now we are back at square one.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/10/2014 at 18:21

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Car meets. Ive met dozens of really cool guys at these places. And i have an avenue to contact them if they ever want to join up for something. Its a place where i know I, and you probably feel comfortable at. So its easy there.

Its easy to say 25 and 22 is fine, but 21 and 18 are just so iffy. even though its the same span, its like all so different. Someone on oppo said the equation is:

[(your age)*1/2] + 7 = min

and thats the minimum age. It might seem joking at first but its got some truth to be honest.

Would you date an older girl? you alluded to dating a younger girl so...

No one on oppo goes to Purdue as well? You should do a roll call for that or something haha.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/10/2014 at 19:15

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I go to Cars and Coffee during the better months. It is always fun. The most fun was when I went in November and about 10 people showed up. We all talked for about 3 hours. It was great! My favorite was the two VW guys who had a "rev off" in the middle of the parking lot, their cars has stock exhaust on.

I wouldn't mind dating anyone from the age range of 18 to 23. Any older and that might be strange. Any younger and that would be creepy. I don't really care, just as long as she isn't under like a 2 or 3 year gap. The older I get the bigger this gap will get obviously.

And there is a few people around Purdue that are on oppo. We are planning a meet in spring.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/10/2014 at 19:26

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lol, i find it hilarious when the guys have a rev off. Its silly fun. I did that with my coworker as i was getting out of work, and while revving my lude, some 40-50y/o guy from the other end of the parking walking out to his bmw no less, yells out "do a burnout!" i yell back that its fwd, and hes like "soo what, do a burnout"... i didint do a burnout, cause ive never done one before, and didnt want to embarrass myself haha.

Gotcha. So you wouldnt go with a girl who has already finished college?

Oppo meets are fun. Im planning another one for spring. Except the park rangers kicked us out at the end of that meet.... Hopefully yours doesnt involve the POPO.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/11/2014 at 21:26

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Burnouts are easy!! Just hit the gas and then hit the brake at the same time. . . probably, I have never done one either, don't plan on it. I personally enjoy having to buy tires every 2 or so years.

I wouldn't go out with a girl that has finished college cause she is too old for me, and I am too young for her. It would just feel weird. Annoyingly it seems that once Asians reach 22 they look 22 until they are about 45. . .

I don't think it will, the police around here is pretty lax. I haven't encountered one, mostly because they are off doing important things, rather than patrolling the back roads.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/11/2014 at 21:50

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what about the clutch!? and fwd! Do i used my ebrake instead of just brakes? Havent you ever just wanted to do 1 burnout? Me and my miata buddy were on a back road and it was damp. we stopped in the middle of the road side by side, and he does the sweetest burnout, brakestand, that slight sliding to the right, and slowly peeling away with wheels ablaze. Not even VTEC could make me feel better that i could never do that...

hahahahahaha that statement is very true about asians.

Well it was a state park.... and we stayed wayyy past closing.... but thats irrelevant!!

and f me... that girl in my photo class showed up today, and i was not prepared! Plus i had to do some actual work today... next week for sure i will talk with her.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/11/2014 at 22:22

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Well, as long as you don't ride it, it should be fine. Should be like launching the car. I have already done that a few times while autocrossing. I assume you could use the handbrake, get some lady points like that. I generally like to lay down "skid marks" on the road. They are tiny, but they are there. I love the rain though. I spin the tires through 3rd!! It is fun!

See there is your problem, although, I don't know why it was such a big deal. People probably sneak in there all the time, but rules are rules.

The girl in my bioclass is now MIA. . . I see her in class sometimes though, but not in lab. I think she switched labs, which kind of sucks but there are other women, so that is a plus.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/12/2014 at 20:33

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Im itching sooo bad to get a beater rwd car its killing me. I just want to hoon the crap out of a peice of crap i dont car about beating on. Im too afraid to dump the clutch in my prelude and launch it like a man. Best ive done is spin wheels in 1st on a semi decent launch in the wet. So it doesnt even count really....

Lol... we had burgers on the grill, and they told us we had 5 minutes to leave or they'd fine us... rangers... pshh.

Dang. Maybe you should ask her if she needs help on any of the labs because you noticed she wasnt there. Or you ask her for help, even if you dont need any. Play dumb and ask her some questions.

And DUDE. i ballzed up again today. The other girl of interest who works in the store next to me, came into my store to shop!!! The problem, i was stuck fixing the rancid smell coming from the unused toilet...(being 1 of 2 guys also has its negatives) So by the time i managed to fix that, she was making her stroll to the door. I am so upset. The only glimmer of hope is that when she opened the door she looked back and looked right at me (cause i was standing in the main isle in direct view of the door), and smiled, i smiled back, and she left =(... Maybe im overthinking that, but all i know is we made eye contact. At least i exist!

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/12/2014 at 21:47

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I am sure your clutch will be fine. Just for god sake, don't ride it!! I let my friend try and drive a manual for the first time, and he rode that all the way to the end of the parking lot. I have launched the car multiple times, and no problems. I don't launch it very hard, only at autocross though.

I don't think she actually knows me. If I walked up to her in lecture she probably would think I am creepy. Maybe, I actually don't know. We sit on polar opposite sides of the class though, I am in the back of a 300 lecture class and she is up front. . .

I also have to clean the toilets at work, it sucks, but at least I don't have to deal with customers, which is always a plus. I like to be left alone while working. And there is always next time. At least she didn't smell you right after you came out of the bathroom. Maybe you didn't smell bad, but there is that chance it may have transferred!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/12/2014 at 22:09

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Never ride the clutch. Got that. That was like lesson number 2. Lesson number 1 was moar revsss haha. This summer, ill give a few launches a try.... now that i have a gopro, self incrimination ftw.... ftl...

Oh dang. 300 people. thats quite a bit... I only had 30 people in my lab. And only like 12 people in my photo class. Well, just keep looking around and you might see someone else. Do you ever cross paths during the day? Maybe try taking a new route to class, like taking back roads on the street, less direct, but theres more chance of enjoyment.

Luckily i dont have to clean them, well its only 1. But i have to fix them when they break. And fix everything else that breaks for that matter. I got my own toolbox at work. i feel legit when i pull it out haha. And i am in command of an offsite location (read: abandoned store where we keep tons of extra crap). Retail life turned out to be less boring than i thought.

Well, since it was a toilet thats no longer used, the pipes started smelling from stagnant water. so i had to mend that. It was beginning to stink the store up ahah.. I didnt get near her though. Just within visual eye contact distance... But im kicking myself! I was sooo close. so fricken close. And my manager told me i should literally just go up to her and 1, ask her out to eat or drink 2, then give her my number so she is in command of the ordeal. That way she doesnt feel pressured.... her plan has such logic, and simplicity. i really over think things.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/18/2014 at 00:22

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HOLY SHIT! I thought I responded to this, but I didn't. God damn it. Okay, well then.

The class is pretty big because it is a major class for pharmacy kids(I failed it when I was taking it cause I switched majors half way though). Luckily, that means there is no attendance policy so if you feel like skipping, you can! I take the bus and taking new routes is not a possibility, cause the bus drops me off right in front of class!

The bathroom at my Walgreens is completely destroyed. There is nothing to salvage in there. Luckily everything works, and if it does break we get the maintenance guys to do it. My retail life consists of fixing the stock room, stocking the store, and cleaning the store. Pretty menial stuff, but hey if it pays and pretty well at that!

I say you listen to your manager. I gave a girl my number once(the one of two women I decided to ask for their number). Bad idea, she never texted me back. I say you ask for her number, like in the old days!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/18/2014 at 17:46

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Lol. Im not forcing you if you dont wanna talk haha.

Wait so if you fail a class, and re take it, you have no accountability to be at class? Interdasting... If the bus drops you off in front of your class, take a different bus. Or get off at a different stop and walk in a different way. Sometimes these new routes will be out of the way.

Well, i guess since its a public restroom, the crap literally can hit the fan in there. Our store has no public restroom. Just our employee only one. Stockrooms ftw!

I dunno dude. I think if i ask, it could be even more awkward than if i let her have mine. Then you know at least she has some mutual interest.

The old days... The days of which we never lived... No longer are the old days... Our lives are of new days...

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/21/2014 at 20:27

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But it is so convient!! Plus it is(well it was, now it is like 50) freezing over here. So getting off in front of class is beautiful! I do hate public transportation though, it is always late, and it has someone who wants to talk to someone. Like this 60 year old who was talking/shouting at the bus driver. I don't even know.

Our break room is dirty as well! I found a "lady cloth" in there once. It was nasty. Also apparently a manager did the nasty with an employee on top of the table everyone eats on. It isn't just our customers that are gross. Awesome store to work at though.

It might, be. I honestly don't know though, the last time I asked for a girls number was 4 years ago -_- So my experience is lacking. Although, I am sure she would politely turn it down if she wasn't interested. I highly doubt that though, women are always willing to give guys a chance. Just don't be an asshole, which you don't seem to be!

I hated my life back then, I am kind of annoyed now, but it is so much better! It will be even better once I get to drive the car again! Now with UEL goodness! Should make back road driving and stress relief that much better!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/21/2014 at 22:30

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Dang, i almost picture you break room nearly identical to ours. We have a table with a cruddy grungy checkered tablecloth... You can never tell if there is liquid on it, so you rest your hand down, and sometimes its wet.... Though no one did the nasty on it, because i would know, me and this other guy are the only two guys and nothing has happened lol. Lady cloth? lol... I have to empty the trashes and they always try to hide their personal "junk" in there.... And im just like... -__- you people, you cant hide this very well. And one time, one girl took a dump, and the toilet wouldnt flush so she had to show me, crap still in the toilet, and i had to solve the problem...

i have to type out some frustration below. I messed up today..

DUDE dude! I totally F'd up my biggest chance yet. I efffed up so bad. Im literally going crazy. I fricken failed. So this girl came in today. And i did my usually assistance routine, and she kept acting nervous around me. My co worker helped her, and she was normal around her. I get to ring her up, and holy crap. You know how they portray the steroetypical guy likes girl, girl likes guy confrontations in movies, well, thats what happened. I never usually get choked up or nervous. But dude, she was gorgeous and identically awkward in the same way as i am. Which is why i feel it made it worse. She had me on edge as i was working the register computer. Her shaky hands and nervous choppy voice totally threw me for a ride, and i had to keep so hard from messing up. I threw her a compliment on her earrings which prompted her to smile and put her hand up to her earrings! Looking back, i think thats a positive body language sign. About 75% through the transaction, i totally knew she had me hooked, and i felt i had her hooked. But i CAVED. I FRIKEN CAVED. I just let her go. "Have a good day, alright? Come back soon" i said. And the more i look back into, the more i feel i let her down, let alone myself. Only 1 other girl in my life had the same mannerisms and acting as she did, which fully told me she thought i was at least cute (or whatever girls say).

The worst part. My managers knew from the first moment i had actually spoken to her, that i thought she was cute. So they watched the whole thing unfold. And after recapping with them, they confirmed everything. She was totally attempting to flirt/that awkward conversation when the girl likes you. WHYYY WHYYYYYY. The one perfect chance comes along and i blow it again! Even after all we have yabbed on and on about on here didnt make it to the surface, and i blanked, and repressed back into my old form. For whatever reason, this girl made me feel incredibly different that any other girl i had ever interacted with. Her reciprocation to my comments shocked me with surprise. She was different. This girl is truely the only girl to get my heart racing in a simple conversation. She caught me offguard. I couldnt counter, and i lost myself, and any chance.

Maybe im thinking into this too much, but honestly, this was the most impacting event thats ever happened like this.

SO! I urge you. DONT DO WHAT IT DID. i fricken failed. i blew it. ANd there is no rewind. All i had to do was extend to her my number and i just knew it would have been well received. Very few times in my life have i had real gut feelings. This was one.

Take a chance. If you get into the situation with that girl in your class, just go for it, because this regret is killing me. No amount of VTEC nor tire spinning can heal what hurt me today. Regret on a level ive never had.

Take a chance. Please.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/23/2014 at 13:31

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Calm yourself! Think about it, it was just one meeting. Pull the trigger next time, no questions asked. You have to do it next time. Women don't give up that easily, at least the ones that are worth going for. I didn't pull the trigger for nearly a month before a woman gave up on me. You have another chance. I promise you this. Next time she comes around just give her your number or ask for her's, whatever you plan is do it next time. However you feel, she feels exactly the same. She feels just as bad because you didn't ask for her number. Like I said, calm yourself and prep yourself for next time. All is not lost. You got this.

I may take the chance with the woman in class, but I never see her. I like the way she looks but I don't really know her, so I am not even to worried about not being able to talk to her. However, I did make a few friends, so my spirits are up! Make a few more and then become more comfortable around the ladies.

And because I though this woman looked amazing, here is a picture I found.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/24/2014 at 15:39

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no picture! =(

I know, i gotta calm myself. But i still say it was the only situation that has caught me THAT off guard. Im usually good just talking with girls, but this! this! Next time, im gonna say something no matter how stupid it comes out. Then at least i will have tried. Its just that i had everything in my favor in that scenario, and i let it drive away in a massive cloud of burning clutch and tires... (the clutch because im an idiot)

Also, i find it funny, all of my managers have given me the okay to pretty much ask customers out.

I see you hesitation. The only way it could work is if the first time you end up genuinly talking to her, you can have a good, fluid conversation so that asking her to talk more over coffe or something wouldnt sound too strange.

You made some girl friends? nice! My only girl friends are the ones at work. Speaking of which, they are all having a party this weekend for one of them leaving. Gotta keep my guard up cause i know one or two of them has a thing for me, but i dont, so this could become frustrating.

So dude, i hit a massive pothole yesterday. Like spine crushing, glass shattering, at least 6-10inches deep and 6 feet wide at about 40-50mph. I broke the tire, and it jolted the car so hard the odometer stopped going(fixed that, but now there will forever be about 100 missing miles from its life). So now i have two different sets wheels on the car, cause i cant throw on my complete other set since one still has a nail in them... This week has not been a fun emotional week.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 02/26/2014 at 14:57

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Yeah you do. I am sure it will go fine. Just as long as you don't say something along the lines of "I liked it when the white man was in charge" everything will be fine. Hell you can even say racist things as long as you aren't serious.

I bet my managers would give the okay, but most of our customers are past their 30s. Well out of my age range.

I am not very good at fluid conversation when it is outside of the confines of friends. 1v1 always ends up making me nervous. But I did make a few friends and some were women. I guess practice will make me perfect.

Now that sucks, like a lot. I haven't driven my car yet, but I am putting the replacement headers on soon, and I will be bringing it up here. I wonder how bad the potholes are from what I can tell, they are pretty terrible.

Speaking of wheels. If everything goes as planned for the sublease I could be getting wheels pretty soon! It will be great!!!

Oh and here is the picture again! What's your thoughts, I think she looks fantastic!

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/26/2014 at 20:38

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(sorry i keep making these so long. Say the word and ill keep a limit on myself)

Lol. well, i dont think id escalate a conversation that high.

You gotta have some customers your age come into the store. I mean, even i go to wall greens now and then to buy some chocolate.

Its okay. You will understand sooner or later that 1v1 isnt bad. Take advantage of your work and just talk to people. Someone will surely open up.

Also. Top tip story. The girls in my photo class were talking to me and were complaining about this guy (who is honestly just very very very shy, and borderline awkward to talk to.... reminds me of us) And he made the bad choice of continuing to sit next to this one girl, whom he presumably likes, and be all non social and act odd... He is doing no harm, but the girls dont like that!!

So, the tip is: even though you might not like just talking for talkings sake, it seems girls take seclusion and muteness as a negative. If you can get the girl to talk, all the better. Then all you have to do is listen, and nod, laugh or agree every now and then lol.

Last bit of story time on my end. Today! I actually grew some balls. No i didnt get a girls number, BUT! that girl i told you who works next to my store, she came in and was shopping today. I got to ring her up, and make an inquiry statement. And it lead to have a genuine moderate length conversation with her. And the most exciting part is i got her name! It really was simple "hey, what is your name?" and she countered and asked for mine. Which even simply put is a good sign, because at least she 'wanted' to know. So now it will be TONS less awkward when i see her again and make conversation. It wasnt the full blown date question, but i figured i should start here and work up.

There is hope my friend!

Also, i saw your post about you being all hating on the world.... It makes me sad that you are frustrated with life for no particular reason(though i dont know how much the girl thing is frustrating you, its about my personal biggest frustration if ill be blunt about it). Not that having those feelings are bad. Its just bad to dwell, and keep digging deeper into them. You wont gain anything by continuing a negative outlook.

Yeah, life is not easy. We all go through crap, and by now everyone knows that so no need to expand. But dont be angry, because in our anger we take it out on people who dont deserve it. Knowingly or unknowingly. And can exponentially destroy any chances we may have had.

You cant change yourself overnight, but start somewhere. Start small. Its cliche but dude, life is too short to be upset or angry over it. Logically think about how much time you may have wasted by just being angry. I know i wasted lots. And i still do, but im working on it! You get one life. One. not to be philisophical, but we wont get yesterday back, nor the 95 other replies me made (lol, worth it). If you have grudges, blindly forgive them and just forget about it. some still haunt me, and i know somethings are permanent, but you wont grow as a person until you move out of your box. I too am trying to leave my box, ive opened it up a tad, but im not there yet either.

sorry to rant. But i urge you, please dont be mad with the world/yourself. Its not worth it. I will also say, getting laid probably wont fix it either... Think about it, how can a 10 minute exchange solve a life issue. An relationship might do a better job. with a girlfriend, or with some solid friends. (i vote for gf).

If im completely out of touch, call me out. Say im wrong. because id hate for this to not be accurate if you really want to talk about serious stuffs.

sub lease! sublease? leasing another car!? wut!

and definitely wait til april to drive your car if the potholes by your are really bad. My lude threw a CEL yesterday too... EGR ports... its been a great week.

you know. you have really gotten me turned around on the asian girls.... It may or may not be the fact this other other girl in my photo class is japanese (works at a sushi place too) and she is surprisingly attractive the more i talk to her. You! You making me confused about my likes and dislikes!! So i do find that picture rather attractive at the moment. Especially her hair.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 03/01/2014 at 17:21

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You are basically there, all you have to do is ask for her number! DO IT DO IT DO IT!!! ASK HER OUT GOD DAMN IT!!

Most of the customers are like 10 to 20 years older than me. I got a sexy lady to come into my store, she went to my high school, but I don't think she remembers me mostly cause I was the quiet kid in the back of the class.

I don't like talking for talking sakes, only because I feel like I am wasting the person's time. I actually enjoy talking to people, but not too much cause then I get tired. My friend says the same thing though, you gotta make small talk.

Thanks for the tips but I have gotten much happier in the last week. I decided to not stay in my room for hours on end and instead go study outside. Didn't really talk to anyone but it was much better than being cooped up in that room. The problem was, was that I wasn't making any friends or getting obtaining the interest of the ladies. But last week I made a few new friends by just acting like myself. Here I was thinking that I was just the worst person to talk to but I guess not. That really lifted my spirits. It also turns out the my friends friend think I look good, which was also a great boost for the ego and the self esteem. I was glad I decided to open up to other people.

I am still really annoyed with my woman situation though. By getting laid I didn't really mean getting laid. I am not really one for one night stands. Its just not how I roll. I really do want a girlfriend. One day, hopefully soon.

And by sublease I mean, leasing out the apartment so someone else lives there during the summer. It will free up money for wheels and tires! It will be great!! I can't afford to lease a car, that would be crazy!

To be fair, she is a model, and models are meant to look amazing. But Asian women are very very attractive. I like the ones from Asia though, they look different from the ones that grew up in America, if that makes any sense.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 03/02/2014 at 17:57

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okay! OKAY! My next plan of action pending how the situation presents itself, i will ask her if she goes to my college (she has our colleges parking sticker on her car), and will ask if she gets a break between classes and if she'd want to grab something to eat. Of course, that could all change depending on how things unfold.

People will give you body sign clues if the conversation is dragging. But the whole point of conversing is to enjoy each other and what they have to say, regardless if they actually "have anything" to say. Its just being present with each other.

There you go! It takes a little bit of changing up your routine, and like the cliche always says, 'just be yourself'. I still think thats bogus (everyone has something to hide) but there is truth haha. Morale boosters like complimenting looks are huge, the first time that happened to me, i was shocked, no one had ever said that before so i know how it feels when it finally occurs.

Im annoyed with my woman situation too. It boils down to me still being a baby and shy, and not very risk taking. Im working on it, and you seem to be getting there too, but i guess we gotta remember it cant happen overnight. And im on the same page as you then, im more looking for the relationship with a girl over anything else. Dont worry, with all the customers who i see in my store with girlfriends (by that i mean, like "how did HE end up with HER!?"), we will certainly have no trouble. Its just not the right time i suppose. I just keep my morale high by looking at car stuff haha.

Ahhh that makes sense now. Great plan! Making money on something that you wouldnt have been before. I guess that means your almost a landlord!! haha. And dont lease a car, just buy a 240!

Yes, i know what you mean. The ones actually from their home country have an appeal psychically (very pretty) and also an appeal based on their character from their birth country (imo). Their personality is not an american personality and reflects through everything. Boosting their overall attractiveness.. Maybe you alluded to that?

i have a confession here. Last night, i went to my coworkers party and broke my alcohol virginity. Annoyingly, i dont think it was worth it, and im not gonna be drinking with any of those girls again. I 'liked' none of them, and the 2 i really didnt particularly care for kept flirting and flirting and flirting with me... Some girls, i just want nothing to do with. It wasnt fun. they were drunk, i didnt get drunk, only had enough rum and coke to drown out the overall commotion. But i had to be courteous since i work with them. It really just reinforces my desire for 1 girlfriend, who i can spend time with and have excuses not to do just this. Sorry i had to rant, since i cant rant that to anyone else i know. So if you come across the perfect situation to drink (place to stay so you dont have to drive), drink with people you would enjoy being around and wouldnt have to worry about people annoying you. Dont think ill be picking up any drinks for a long time now.