"Jagvar" (Jagvar)
01/13/2014 at 09:22 • Filed to: None | 1 | 13 |
This house in Scotland has been abandoned for about 30 years. The owner apparently fled the country to evade taxes, and nothing has been done with the property since, making it a very attractive spot for looters and vandals. Skip ahead to the 1:50 mark to see the Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow in the garage.
$kaycog
> Jagvar
01/13/2014 at 09:26 | 0 |
What a shame. That poor Rolls and that poor house.
Jagvar
> $kaycog
01/13/2014 at 09:30 | 0 |
I want someone to sneak in with a flatbed and save that car. But unfortunately, the Silver Shadow is considered one of the least collectible modern Rolls models, and I think most people would consider it beyond saving at this point.
505Turbeaux
> Jagvar
01/13/2014 at 09:30 | 2 |
I don't know why people see stuff abandoned and want to destroy it. I see it and always say, ok how do I own and fix this. That Roller would have been viable if it had just sat unused in the garage untouched.
On another note growing up in the 80's all that other stuff I see, VCR's, hideous furniture etc. brings back some memories
Jagvar
> 505Turbeaux
01/13/2014 at 09:33 | 3 |
I agree that vandals are idiots. I've never understood that mentality either.
$kaycog
> Jagvar
01/13/2014 at 09:39 | 0 |
You're probably right.
505Turbeaux
> Jagvar
01/13/2014 at 09:40 | 0 |
although if I ever see Max Headroom or Spud's McKenzie again I might want to destroy some stuff...
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> 505Turbeaux
01/13/2014 at 09:42 | 1 |
Probably because it gives a cheap thrill, one, and second gives them a feeling of power. In other words, the first cause is like shoplifting ("I'm doing something naughty and getting away with it! Oooh!"), and the second because nothing being safe from one's destruction puts one in the seat of "I have the power over all this: to create and destroy! Mostly destroy. Hey, graffiti's something to create, isn't it?"
Need to be horse-whipped.
505Turbeaux
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
01/13/2014 at 09:46 | 0 |
I will have to get some pictures from the court case, but I spent ages 16-18 restoring a square taillight sunroof 2002. Week away from putting tags on it I left it outside on Haloween night. Showed up and it was so destroyed there was not a viable panel left on it. Literally hood and trunk ripped off the car, seats tore out and thrown in a local river. No glass left. Idiots videotaped themselves doing it and tossing pumpkins off an overpass. A sister of one of them turned the tape into the police. I got some restitution but not for years, and not close to the amount of time I spent creating panels for it and welding in.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> 505Turbeaux
01/13/2014 at 09:52 | 0 |
It's only possible if the (minimal) thrills outweigh whatever restraint and respect for others' property they possess. Demonstrably none = throw them in the pokey, where their own possessions will be limited and at risk: sounds like a plan to me.
Identifying the pathologies at work here (i.e. the specific *way* people are evil) is a bit armchair-psychologist of me, but I dare say I'm correct - understanding Droogs to that point isn't rocket science. "Understanding" that claims such people need anything but to be jerked up hard and fast is either no understanding at all, or reflection that the person offering such "understanding" envies their "ability" to go out and trash things "free-willed"...
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> 505Turbeaux
01/13/2014 at 09:56 | 0 |
As an additional note, this is why I'm a big fan of restitution-based penal discipline. Put 'em to work, make 'em repay, and eventually the value of property might crack through their skull far enough they'll keep their wilder impulses in check.
Which isn't to say they have the ability to *learn* self-reflection at that age, as it may well be too late: but it gives the victim a better result and punishes the crim in such a way that it's not just an educational period on how to be better at wrongdoing.
505Turbeaux
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
01/13/2014 at 10:00 | 0 |
yeah it was so menial of restitution though. I think each one had to pay me 14$ a month (3 of them) and after a year they were already trying to get me to release them from financial liability. The real pisser was they didn't get a black mark on their record and 2 of them are now local cops in the same town. Supposedly they are a-holes too
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> 505Turbeaux
01/13/2014 at 10:36 | 1 |
I didn't mean the restitution in that case specifically, but in general. $14 a month is a joke. Portions of Leviticus are really unpopular these days, but paying back a multiple of value of an item damaged/stolen, with that multiple based on the utility of the item and intent, that's a really good principle.
505Turbeaux
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
01/13/2014 at 10:38 | 0 |
I agree, restitution is a grand thing when it works well. I mean tossing people in jail doesnt really work and costs alot of money, hitting someone in the wallet usually serves to smarten someone up.