"PRBot II" (prbot2)
09/30/2013 at 11:18 • Filed to: car crime
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"PRBot II" (prbot2)
09/30/2013 at 11:18 • Filed to: car crime | 2
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A thief was arrested after being sprayed with invisible ultra violet dye when he broke into a 'trap car' set up by police.
Yafet Askale, 28, denied breaking into the vehicle which had been fitted with a traceable liquid called SmartWater, which contains a dye that becomes visible under ultra violet light.
As he stole items including a laptop he activated a system which sprayed him with the substance and alerted police the car had been broken into. Ultra violet lights showed Askale covered in the spray.
Releasing the images as a warning, Detective Inspector Madeline Ryder, of Brent Police, said: "This is another excellent example of the thorough work completed by Brent Officers. Using the trap car technology we were able to charge Askale and put him before the courts.
"The trap car forms part of an overall crime reduction strategy designed by SmartWater which is an effective weapon in the armoury of tools that we routinely use in Brent. We will continue to target those who are insistent on committing these types of offence.
"Brent Police say very clearly to any would be thieves - don't come to Brent - our trap cars and trap houses are waiting for you."
Askale, of Harlesden Gardens, Harlesden, was sentenced to a community order for 49 hours and ordered to pay £400 costs at Brent Magistrates' Court for theft from motor vehicle.
The trap car with SmartWater was set up near his home when he targeted it in June. The suspect was found to be in possession of the stolen property and arrested. He denied theft but was found guilty.
Brent Police have recently been working with SmartWater using trap cars and houses equipped with technology to deter thieves from committing crime and to catch those that do.
Residents have also been provided with free kits to mark valuable property with the substance within their homes which has led to reductions in burglary and street robbery and 80 and 40 percent respectively.
Three different traceable liquids are currently being trialled across London by police to prevent burglary, theft, robbery and vehicle related crime. The others are called Applied DNA Sciences and Stealth Mark.
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MikeMeade
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 11:31 |
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In America, we call this entrapment. You set out a juicy prize, and wait for the criminal to take it. It's a very thin difference between crime and trap. I feel for the guy, but it's not like I want to let him off for free.
David E. Davis
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 11:33 |
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The dye makes him looks like an extra from The Walking Dead.
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PRBot II
> David E. Davis
09/30/2013 at 11:34 |
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It reminds me of those Gatorade ads.
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PRBot II
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 11:35 |
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It's only entrapment if the perp was induced to commit a crime he otherwise would not have commited.
davedave1111
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 11:41 |
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No, this is nothing like entrapment. No-one encouraged him to steal. All the police did was monitor a car parked by the side of the road - albeit one they'd deliberately set up to be a tempting target.
I have no sympathy for the guy whatsoever. Stealing stuff from cars is a particularly dickish crime, because the cost to the person stolen from is so much higher than the benefit the criminal gets, and it's also a particularly dumb crime to commit because the chances of being caught are unusually high for property crime. Stealing stuff from cars in Brent, when you could steal from cars in a mega-rich area ten minutes away, is even dumber than normal.
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MikeMeade
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 11:42 |
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I guess that it all depends on your definition of inducing. They left a car in front of his house with a bunch of goodies out in plain sight. Presumably most people know better and do not leave items visible and accessible. The police are making a juicy and easy target that would not normally be there. Sure he made the wrong choice, but it doesn't make it right.
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MikeMeade
> davedave1111
09/30/2013 at 11:43 |
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I like my police to enforce laws, not set traps.
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 11:44 |
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davedave1111
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 11:45 |
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Why is setting traps not a valid technique?
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PRBot II
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
09/30/2013 at 11:54 |
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MikeMeade
> davedave1111
09/30/2013 at 12:00 |
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Traps are bad. Think about speed traps. There are those towns you read about in Florida where they drop the speed limit crazy low for no reason and catch people who just happen to be driving through. The only reason for the speed drop is the fact that they want the money from speeding tickets. Is it wrong to speed? Yes. Is the speed trap okay? No. You are being tricked into speeding by a less than ethical law.
I see bait cars in the same light.
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MikeMeade
> davedave1111
09/30/2013 at 12:00 |
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Traps are bad. Think about speed traps. There are those towns you read about in Florida where they drop the speed limit crazy low for no reason and catch people who just happen to be driving through. The only reason for the speed drop is the fact that they want the money from speeding tickets. Is it wrong to speed? Yes. Is the speed trap okay? No. You are being tricked into speeding by a less than ethical law.
I see bait cars in the same light.
desertdog5051
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 12:01 |
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It is not like finding a $100 bill on the sidewalk. You had to have the intent to commit the crime. It is used widely around the country and I know of no entrapment defense that worked.
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davedave1111
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 12:04 |
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What do you see as the same? Speed traps as you describe require something to be against the law that shouldn't be. There's no comparison between that and simply catching a thief in the act of stealing by watching a likely target.
slomaro
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 12:50 |
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slomaro
> PRBot II
09/30/2013 at 12:51 |
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TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 12:51 |
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Actually it does, all this proves is that he is they type of person who will steal if he thinks no one is looking. Using your logic if you leave a $100 bill sitting on your kitchen counter it is perfectly okay for a house guest to take it when you're not looking because it was right there infront of them when it normally wouldn't have been.
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PRBot II
> slomaro
09/30/2013 at 12:59 |
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Perfect!
Bird
> MikeMeade
09/30/2013 at 13:43 |
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Actually, in America, we call it a bait car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_car