Alfa 4C shooting brake

"Speedmonkey" (Speedmonkey) 09/25/2013 at 13:20 • Filed to: Alfa 4C

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I'm all for shooting brakes but this render, apparently by Zagato, is the pits.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:21

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Weeeiiiirrrdddd.

Front is still hideous...I see that crazy fly-eyed headlight up there.

HammerheadFistpunch > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:22

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proof that a shooting brake isn't for every car.

pauljones > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:22

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Actually, I like it better than the coupe. Again, with the exception of the puke-tastic headlights.

505Turbeaux > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:23

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unique for sure, but it just doesnt work well in execution. As much as I love wagons and shooting brakes, there is no need for it on this. Just patch up the side windows and we can have a 4c delivery model

getchapopcorn > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:25

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Sure as hell works for the tz3 stradale, though.

getchapopcorn > getchapopcorn 09/25/2013 at 13:27

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general shape/line wise that is. Clearly not a shooting break.

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:32

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I have a hard time believing Zagato came up with that. It looks like a little RV

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:32

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I have a hard time believing Zagato came up with that. It looks like a little RV

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:32

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I have a hard time believing Zagato came up with that. It looks like a little RV

Mikeado > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:33

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Not only does that just not look right, but a mid-engined shooting brake? WTF? There's like a school locker of storage space under that thing...

pauljones > Mikeado 09/25/2013 at 13:35

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And!?

Mikeado > pauljones 09/25/2013 at 13:38

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First off, that's not a shooting brake. Secondly, it started as a regular Clio and then they moved the powertrain backwards (and did lots of other stuff to make it work, of course).

Turning a mid-engined sports car into a shooting brake makes no practical sense, and the only reason I can think of is that it might lower the drag coefficient.

minardi > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:40

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I agree with you. Should make it Targa instead.

Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:43

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What's sad is most everyone doesn't like this. This, however, is one of the few shooting brakes that I actually like! I love the coupe, but this isn't all that bad looking to me.

pauljones > Mikeado 09/25/2013 at 13:44

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Well, now, see, here we have an interesting debate topic: How is a shooting brake defined, and how does it differ from a hatchback or a wagon?

I would argue that the terms, even in their original context, are very nearly interchangeable, in much the same way that "Estate" and "Wagon" are used interchangeably today, as they simply different terms used to describe the same concept. I would argue Renault Clio V6 Sport is indeed a shooting brake, in that a shooting brake tends to refer to something that is a mix of a coupe and a wagon, which I believe most three-door hatches genuinely are.

Party-vi > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:53

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Blech. Loose the windows and we'll have something.

Pessimippopotamus > Speedmonkey 09/25/2013 at 13:59

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I'd sell my kidney for a car with dat B pillar...

Pessimippopotamus > Mikeado 09/25/2013 at 14:00

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Pessimippopotamus > pauljones 09/25/2013 at 14:01

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shooting brake tends to refer to something that is a mix of a coupe and a wagon, which I believe most three-door hatches genuinely are

Heresy!

Anima > 505Turbeaux 09/25/2013 at 14:12

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Reminding me of this.

Mikeado > Pessimippopotamus 09/25/2013 at 14:27

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Kamm tail =/= Shooting Brake

Mikeado > pauljones 09/25/2013 at 14:30

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There is definitely a difference between a hatchback and a shooting brake. Not only are SBs normally (although not by definition) based on sports cars or GTs, but they have a longer roof than a hatchback. They are essentially 3-door estates, usually sporty ones like the Volvo P1800ES, Reliant Scimitar GTE, BMW Clownshoe of Ferrari Four.

Nobody has ever called a Renault Clio a shooting brake! There's nothing coupé about it to be mixed up with estate.

pauljones > Mikeado 09/25/2013 at 14:33

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Oppositelock, the final frontier. This is the story of pauljones, on a many-year mission, to seek out new cars and viewpoints, and oddly go where no enthusiasts has gone before, including asserting the the Renault Clio V6 Sport is a shooting brake.

Mikeado > pauljones 09/25/2013 at 14:35

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Very nice.

You're still wrong :-P

It's (a beast of) a hot hatch.

Pessimippopotamus > Pessimippopotamus 09/25/2013 at 14:39

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Pessimippopotamus > Mikeado 09/25/2013 at 14:40

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No, but it's a mid engined car with a rear storage space.

Not very useful... probably.

Mikeado > Pessimippopotamus 09/25/2013 at 14:52

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True. I suppose you can put some umbrellas in or something.

Eazy-O > Speedmonkey 09/26/2013 at 03:24

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It's too early for me to understand sarcasms. So if I'm missing a joke, apologies. Otherwise, the above pic is a shopped version of this one: