Exclusive: Some New York Pedicabs Use Illegal Electric Motors.

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09/10/2013 at 10:26 • Filed to: PEDICABLOPNIK

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I could have sworn that these things only happened in Naples...

http://nypost.com/2013/09/10/ped…


DISCUSSION (14)


Kinja'd!!! DrivesaCorolla > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 10:27

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...Murica

that is all


Kinja'd!!! STREPITUS > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 10:32

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“It’s unfair,” said Onour Beytuck, a 21-year-old driver. “I mean, if they have a motor, they can get more customers because they don’t get as tired. They aren’t working as hard as we are.”

I understand what he's saying, but he just sounds like a whiny little bitch with the whole "it's unfair" opening.


Kinja'd!!! cbell04 > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 10:35

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hummm... by them adding motor they have triggered some want from within..


Kinja'd!!! Anon > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 10:36

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Can you imagine "buggy drivers upset that petrol motor carriage can get more customers"


Kinja'd!!! BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 10:55

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Idiots.

If motors work better.

USE FRAKING MOTORS!

This is the kind of mentality that unions generate. Don't improve because it puts the lowest common denominator at a disadvantage.

Good grief, this isn't the 16th century. Technology exists to make things like this better and easier.

If you BADLY want to pedal your ass off all day carting people around... do it, and don't complain about it.

What's next? are they going to complain about segways and bicycles, and people using their own non-automotive mechanized transportation, because it takes away the need to pay someone else to FREAKING PEDAL A BIKE?


Kinja'd!!! Mattbob > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 11:01

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so instead of the government saying: "wow, great idea! clean quiet electric motors that could reduce strain related injuries for the drivers, but they just have to be regulated to a certain speed." Thus making the whole affair better for everyone, they just ban the whole thing, because they are "unfair."


Kinja'd!!! Osiris - I can haz Euro spec? > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 11:05

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I see no problem with this. In fact, I see this as an ingenious idea. A little extra oomph to go along with pedaling so you don't get tired as quickly. You can make extra monies. Works for me!


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
09/10/2013 at 11:22

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I'm not sure about in NY, but in London the whole reason for pedicabs is that they avoid all the licensing, tax and insurance issues powered vehicles have. If they're going to be powered, that makes nonsense of the whole thing. Basically at that point they're just unlicensed, uninsured cabs with no safety features.


Kinja'd!!! ttyymmnn > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 11:26

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Ban all the pedicabs. They have them all over downtown Austin and they are a f**king nuisance.


Kinja'd!!! BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > davedave1111
09/10/2013 at 11:42

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Because falling out of a rickshaw at 10mph that is powered by a little electric motor is DRASTICALLY different than falling out of the same one at 10mph that is only pedal-powered. Yeah.

The bureaucracy you mention (anywhere, US, UK, anywhere else) is just as ridiculous as the pedal cabbies complaining.


Kinja'd!!! vdub_nut: scooter snob > Mattbob
09/10/2013 at 11:42

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Never pay attention to New York politics. It'll kill you.


Kinja'd!!! Slave2anMG > THEY MADE ME GRAY
09/10/2013 at 13:31

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SCANDALOUS. This made me drop my monocle.

At least we still have the buggy whip concession at the Polo Grounds.


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
09/11/2013 at 10:38

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There are a few differences, actually. Primarily, that it's damned hard to get a loaded rickshaw up to 10mph without electric assistance, and it's certainly not possible to do it repeatedly throughout the day. And believe me, those things are bloody lethal when they crash. They're heavy enough to do serious damage, and of course the passengers aren't helmeted or belted in. They don't brake well, either.

The other aspect, though, is that you have to draw the line between a motor vehicle and a non-motor vehicle somewhere. Electric vehicles in the quarter-ton range fully loaded sound to me like they're going to be the wrong side of that line in any busy city.

Personally, I'm also convinced that the pedicabs in London are nothing more than a two-way scam. The owners scam the riders into thinking it's possible to make money - most riders barely pay the rent on the bike each day - and the only people who get a ride in them are gullible tourists who don't realise how unpleasant it is to be ridden around London on a level with the exhaust pipes of all the buses, let alone to pay through the nose for the dubious pleasure.

That the bureaucracy is mishandled doesn't mean we don't need any at all.


Kinja'd!!! BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > davedave1111
09/11/2013 at 11:03

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I wouldn't argue with simply not having them. They seem ridiculous as a premise to me as well.

But it is unbelievable that the bureaucracy is so thick... and to think that there are bureacrats making government salaries probably double what mine is, to micromanage this crap...

and people who choose to pedal other people around, and then complain about someone getting a little assistance from an electric motor.

I can't imagine that they carry much in the way of battery capacity. If they were half smart, they would use it as a regenerative system.... charge on down-hill, assist on up-hill, and not setup to spend a lot of amperage going tremendously fast.

If those things truly weigh ~500lbs or more loaded... and are powered by only one person's pedaling... I can't imagine they make much up-hill progress.