Does this make me feel good?

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 09/04/2013 at 14:57 • Filed to: None

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That there are several new and improved, true to off-road heritage vehicles that are:

A. Not going away

B. Generally getting better

Yes it does. Yes it does.

I know its not for everyone, but Im stoked that the genuine off road adventure vehicle niche is still alive and kicking.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2013 at 15:00

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The only genuine off-road niche vehicle left in the US is the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. Everything else is just pretending. It's still got solid axles, actual off-road tires, locking diffs, and the 4:1 t-case.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 09/04/2013 at 15:04

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I disagree, though I do think the wrangler rubi is an amazing vehicle but as good as solid axles are...you don't NEED them to go places, regarding off road tires? you can spec them on the land rover or jeep and the trail 4runner has the same tires as the rubicon. Regarding the transfere case, no one NEEDS a 4:1, thats crazy, especially with todays modern high power engines. my 2.35:1 does just fine for me in my LC80.

I love the range rover because its very capable and it seems their owners actually take them off road (see them at lot in moab) the GC gets a diesel and can have 10.3 inches of clearance, and the trail 4runner gets dynamic rollbars that disconect for better articulation and still has a solid axle with locker option.

Still great choices.

Nibbles > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2013 at 15:14

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I just wish they didn't ugly-up the 4Runner again.

Morans.

HammerheadFistpunch > Nibbles 09/04/2013 at 15:21

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yeah, toyota needs to be reminded that goofy doesn't mean exciting and that you can't "refresh" exciting into a car by design.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2013 at 15:22

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Ah. My comment didn't take into account your "off-road heritage" statement. Yes these will work off road, but they are a far cry from their awesome off-roady beginnings.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 09/04/2013 at 15:23

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it would be fun to compare, apples to apples, what the better off road vehicle is. stock glory days, stock modern days. Same tires, same reckless abandon with regards to body damage....it would be interesting.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2013 at 15:25

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Hmm. I'd like to imagine the Disco I and Land Cruiser would far better than the ZJ, but then again the ZJ once got a 5.9L V8...

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Party-vi 09/04/2013 at 15:28

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I will admit I was disappointed when LR dropped the solid axles in the Disco BUT I will say that all the guys in my club with LR3/4's go through all the same shit I go through with my raised D2 on MT/R's.

Nibbles > HammerheadFistpunch 09/04/2013 at 15:28

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True dat. I actually liked the '09-13's looks, but this new front end is just

ugh.