Chevy Confirms 2015 Tahoe and Suburban Reveal in NYC Next Month

"SonorousSpeedJoe" (SonorousSpeedJoe) 08/30/2013 at 16:12 • Filed to: K2XX, GM, 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe, 2015 Chevrolet Suburban, 2015 GMC Yukon, 2015 Cadillac Escalade

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Chevrolet updated their !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! saying that the reveal for the next-gen Tahoe and Suburban will be in NYC on September 12th. The 2015 Cadillac Escalade is also !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , but on October 7th, and the 2015 GMC Yukon might still be revealed at the Texas State Fair on September 27th !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

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Thanks again for sharing this to the FP, Matt!

Kristian > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:28

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Yawn.....

Dslay04 > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:29

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But what about GMC?

POD > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:29

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Think they will go the turbo route?

syrgrad91 > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:31

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How about they really surprise us and announce a 2-door, rock crawling, off-road tough Blazer instead!

evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse) > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:32

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Expect the '14 Silverado with a covered bed.

Straight6PackRacing > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:36

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Here's hoping for fold flat seats. Not folding flat on the last generation was stupid.

SonorousSpeedJoe > Dslay04 08/30/2013 at 16:37

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TTAC said that with the exception of the Escalade, they were all going to be revealed at the Texas State Fair (which starts on September 27th), but this contradicts that with respect to the Tahoe/Silverado reveal. The GMC Yukon might still be revealed there, though.

Der Sportwagoner > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:39

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And Soccer Moms rejoice.

igor.holas > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:52

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Well... The Sub/Tahoe will _be_ at TXSF .. but they will be shown before that in NYC ... That kind of confusion on rumors is common.

jtiberius91 > POD 08/30/2013 at 16:54

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Maybe not on the standard V8 block but, I think they may debut a twin turbo diesel engine! At least I hope..

Dan > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 16:55

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My guess...exactly the same as last gen..except they add ugly looking LED DRLs

POD > jtiberius91 08/30/2013 at 16:55

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That would be an interesting option.

SonorousSpeedJoe > igor.holas 08/30/2013 at 16:57

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Yes, that's what I said - TTAC 's report from a few weeks back said that they'd all be unveiled at TXSF, but the Tahoe and Suburban will still be there even though they have a confirmed earlier reveal.

darthd > POD 08/30/2013 at 17:10

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nah. They'll be based on the silverado like always and they'll get the same engines and they'll be nice inside like the silverado too. Nothing too ridiculous.

POD > darthd 08/30/2013 at 17:16

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I think you're probably right. They seem to have kept the same formula for years. I do like the idea of a twin turbo diesel though. I think that could be a good fit for this SUV, but would it sell?

SonorousSpeedJoe > POD 08/30/2013 at 17:18

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I think they'd just use the 2014 Silverado's engines - given how much they were bragging about beating the MPG ratings of Ford's EcoBoost V6 with those of the 5.3L Ecotec3, I don't think they'd use the twin-turbo LF3 V6. Since the LF3 also puts out 400+ HP in the 2014 CTS and XTS, it'd also be competing with the upcoming 6.2L Ecotec3 that'll make 420 HP.

ptak appreciates old racecars > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 17:22

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September 12? Just what we need, two national disaster commemorations in a row.

darthd > POD 08/30/2013 at 17:24

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Maybe, it'd compete with the jeep diesel and diesel benzes on the high end.

Gmonster > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 17:40

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Real housewives of New Jersey reschedule their taping schedule

M54B30 > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 18:06

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I really like the design of the current Suburban/Tahoe/Escalade, here's to hoping the people in charge of "updating" the Silverado and Sierra weren't tasked with updating these

dogisbadob > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 18:13

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I hope they bring back the barn doors and diesel engine! Here is my ideafor a top model of each:

Chevy Silverado SS/Tahoe SS/Suburban SS:
RWD Sport trucks with the LS9/A motor

GMC Sierra/Yukon/Suburban Denali:
Raptor-like trucks, off-road shit, crazy diesel engine

Cadillac Escalade ESV:
either the Denalis with the LS9/A or simply a 4WD version of the SS's.

The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 18:58

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I'm honestly excited.

bwwooster > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 19:50

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"Reveal" is still a verb, guys! Don't use it as a noun, eh?

Supersport > ptak appreciates old racecars 08/30/2013 at 19:53

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The Suburban is the original SUV.

SonorousSpeedJoe > bwwooster 08/30/2013 at 19:53

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noun

noun: reveal ;plural noun: reveals

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(in a movie or television show) a final revelation of information that has previously been kept from the characters or viewers.

"the big reveal at the end of the movie answers all questions"

DankyBrobrowsky > jtiberius91 08/30/2013 at 20:35

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I doubt it, but it would make sense for their special service (police/fire/ems) vehicles. The average soccer mom/family person who buys these things (for whatever reason) would not want a diesel, especially given how many of them would immediately void the warranty by filling it up with gasoline

Just Cars for Joe Bryant > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 20:43

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GM BRING BACK THE AVALANCHE!!!!!!!

LTIROCKS > POD 08/30/2013 at 20:58

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No, I don't think that.

They're going to use the same engine/transmission combinations that are being used in the all new pick-up trucks, though it's possible that the new 8 speed automatic could make its debut here.

They'll probably also carry over the offset steering wheel from the new trucks, which will be equally unwelcome in this application.

See, GM doesn't want to spend an extra $25 or so on a second UV joint in the steering shaft assembly, so the customers have to deal with a steering wheel that's offset by 1.5 inches or so from the center-line of the driver's seat.

As the former owner of a then new '09 Corvette, shortcuts like that don't surprise me in the least.

POD > LTIROCKS 08/30/2013 at 21:04

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That offset sounds annoying.

tobythesandwich > evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse) 08/30/2013 at 21:08

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Not necessarily. They might share some design features. But when the GMT900 trucks hit, they lost a good bit of similarities. Hell even when the GMT800 got refreshed they left the suburban/tahoe out of it.

I'd expect same interior (although maybe a bit nicer materials and some minor changes) and different front end styling. Probably same wheel wells and taillight design.

Iwaswonderofwonders > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/30/2013 at 21:18

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Lemme guess... it's a 5,000 lb box on 20 inch rims with the handling characteristics of a tug boat.

jtiberius91 > POD 08/30/2013 at 21:48

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That may have been the logic of old GM management and marketing teams, but I think they've finally figured out that the market doesn't want an souped up Silverado. I think GM will shock people with whats coming next month!

And the turbo diesel probably wouldn't be available at launch, just the 5.3L Ecotec. But the diesel is coming sooner rather than later (At least I hope!!)

AM3R > The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) 08/30/2013 at 22:49

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Me too, honestly the current models are Dinosaurs. They've been on the road since 06'

Dennis loves you too > Kristian 08/31/2013 at 02:11

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I was gona post this yawn comment thanks now if I do it it's not going to get the same reaction from all the other readers... Thanks for nothing ;)

The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) > AM3R 08/31/2013 at 03:36

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Fun fact: Production actually started in 2005 but the first were sold as 2007 models. But yeah, they're pretty outdated now, but I think they still look pretty sharp. They've held their value too, at least around here.

Scaggnetti > Just Cars for Joe Bryant 08/31/2013 at 08:36

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Said no one, ever...

EDogg > LTIROCKS 08/31/2013 at 08:48

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Wait, are you serious? An offset steering column? That sounds awful! Now I'm curious to check my F-150 to see if it is offset at all... Never would have thought it was a possibility. Just seems like one of those things that modern cars and truck should not have!

Just Cars for Joe Bryant > Scaggnetti 08/31/2013 at 09:14

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But, me who just purchased his second Avalanche.

Full-Ahead > bwwooster 08/31/2013 at 09:23

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Why do people even bother correcting others on the Internet?

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Dslay04 08/31/2013 at 09:31

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If you see the Chevy, then you've pretty much seen the GMC... except for the grille.

bourgeoisie > dogisbadob 08/31/2013 at 10:19

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The barn doors are overrated. The utility is far outweighed by the loss in visibility through the rear window.

I wouldn't mind an Excursion-like lift gate glass with barn doors below, but my top choice would be a lift gate glass on top with a flip down tailgate (for sitting on, etc.) below.

Steve Shoop > Scaggnetti 08/31/2013 at 10:26

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I just traded my worn out GMT900 Avalanche for a 2014 Silverado. I would've bought a next gen Avalanche in a heartbeat. The new technology made it impossible to look at the "Diamond" edition Avalanche as an alternative.

McPherson > Full-Ahead 08/31/2013 at 10:28

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i dont no. agread

AM3R > The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) 08/31/2013 at 11:27

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Yeah they really have held their value. A suburban with 75,000 miles on it still goes above $25k around here. It's almost makes more sense to buy new. And they aren't THAT bad looking. I have a soft spot for taohs.

dogisbadob > bourgeoisie 08/31/2013 at 13:29

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I think the liftgate glass goes way too high for people not in the NBA. The barn doors just swing out to the side and are much better. Most full-size vans have barn doors in the back, not a liftgate, for this reason.

The visibility loss isn't THAT much.

However, on regular car-height wagons, I'd agree with you. But SUV's are too tall for a liftgate to work.

bwwooster > McPherson 08/31/2013 at 14:23

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Why? Because they're getting paid for their use of the language. A surgeon needs to know which end of the scalpel to use, a journalist the correct form a word to use.

bwwooster > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/31/2013 at 14:28

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According to American Heritage, it's only a verb. If it's listed elsewhere as a noun, it can only be because the continued misuse of the word has resulted in its later inclusion, like "normalcy" alongside "normality" after Calvin Coolidge's popular (and popularly decried) misuse.

If you don't mind contributing to the degeneration of the English language, dear boy, continue in your current manner!

SonorousSpeedJoe > bwwooster 08/31/2013 at 14:46

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American Heritage lists it as a noun as well.

n.

The making known of an important, secret, or salient occurrence, such as the revealing of a major development, plot twist, or visual effect in a movie: "Seeing [the Wiz] in human form in the first act diminishes the power of the reveal in the second" (Bob Verini) .

I used it the way I did because I felt it was reasonable, and I'll continue to do so.

bwwooster > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/31/2013 at 15:12

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So be it!

Welcome to the new Normalcy.

evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse) > tobythesandwich 08/31/2013 at 17:03

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I'm not saying it's a bad thing, the new GMTs seem to be very well made. But I expect nothing more than a facelift to give them a softer appearance to attract the soccer moms. Funny, nobody complains that the Sequoia is just a rebadged Tundra, or that Lexuses are rebadged Toyotas, but when GM does it, or Lincoln, it completely discredits them as a choice to some people.

The Biebster's got a P71 (Formerly not Justin Bieber) > AM3R 08/31/2013 at 17:58

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I really like the Tahoe SSV and PPV, but even those are crazy expensive and they don't even have any features. I am a Ford guy, but if I found a Tahoe or Suburban (or even a Yukon, but I almost never see those in this body style) in a price range I could get at, I'd snap that up right away.

SpeedSix > SonorousSpeedJoe 08/31/2013 at 22:10

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Is this supposed to tease the new size difference between the Tahoe and the Suburban? The Suburban's side is much larger than the Tahoe's size, and currently, somewhat minor length differentiation makes it difficult to tell apart.

Full-Ahead > bwwooster 08/31/2013 at 22:15

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Somewhat serious question; Opposite Lock posters are getting paid? (If not, refer to my original comment)

SonorousSpeedJoe > SpeedSix 08/31/2013 at 22:22

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Well, the Suburban's name is longer than the Tahoe's name, and the Suburban is going to be a larger vehicle anyway. I think that's just the result of the banner's proportions/layout when they're trying to keep both logos the same height.

SonorousSpeedJoe > Full-Ahead 08/31/2013 at 22:33

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No, we're just regular members that have the ability to post on Oppositelock, Jalopnik 's off-topic forum. We talk about automotive news/rumors/info, ask for advice on this or that, share pics of cars we've spotted, etc. We basically shoot the breeze about anything - it might not involve cars, though cars are mostly what's discussed since Oppo's part of Jalopnik and all.

There's no money in it for us - if we post something that Jalopnik 's staff sees as worth featuring on the front page, then they share the post by linking to it from the front page. That's all there is to it.

SonorousSpeedJoe > dogisbadob 08/31/2013 at 22:54

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I think that the Chevy Equinox can be had with a programmable-height liftgate, so the Tahoe/Suburban might get that option. Barn doors would be more of a novelty.

lonestranger > bwwooster 08/31/2013 at 23:11

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Who's getting paid for their use of the language? They pay us now? I haven't seen a goddamn cent. Where's my cheque?!

TheMyth Is Swingin' A 440 > LTIROCKS 09/01/2013 at 01:09

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Isn't the offset only on 4WD models? I do believe I read that in a few magazines, though I'm entirely too lazy to cite sources.

bourgeoisie > dogisbadob 09/01/2013 at 09:55

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The loss of visibility is notable given the size of the rear view mirror and the way it magnifies.

I recently sold my Yukon with Barn doors, it was a pretty big difference between it and my Silverado's one piece back glass. Night and day.

LTIROCKS > TheMyth Is Swingin' A 440 09/01/2013 at 10:52

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I really don't know.

Could be. I'd buy a 4WD if I had any interested in buying such a vehicle, so I haven't paid much attention to the 2WD versions.

Bill B > dogisbadob 09/01/2013 at 12:43

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I'm probably going to get a Jeep unless GM does a diesel. Simple as that. I'd love more options!!

tobythesandwich > evilfacelessturtle (Hooning a Ford is Domestic Abuse) 09/01/2013 at 21:02

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They split shared designs with the GMT800. I'm not saying you said it was a bad thing. I'm simply saying they won't be the same exact vehicle in terms of styling.

And nobody has ever bothered to mention the Sequoia is just a SUV Tundra (it's not a rebadge). And Lexus has unique vehicles. They haven't been rebadges for a number of years. Shared platforms? Only on the Avalon/ES and their SUVs. Shared engines (in some). But they are not rebadges.

Nobody has discredited GM for styling their SUVs like their trucks. GM has been doing it for years. The only thing that they get criticized for is when they have a premium SUV like the Escalade, and it's the same as the Suburban. Not much more luxury at all (considering the premium you pay).

RoadToad > dogisbadob 09/02/2013 at 11:30

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Suburban Denali, dang you must realllllly want them to go back in time. Today we call it Yukon XL

RoadToad > Just Cars for Joe Bryant 09/02/2013 at 11:32

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Umm, well technically... theyre still here.... soooo maybe next year that statement applies. You should go with, "GM KEEP MAKING THE AVALANCHE!!!!!!!!"

Just Cars for Joe Bryant > RoadToad 09/02/2013 at 11:50

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Well yes and no, all new Avalanche's (and Cadillac EXT's for that matter) are leftover 2013 models, we are already into the 2014 season. I can't give an exact date, but I am sure production stopped over the summer when the plants started to tool up for the 2014's.

dogisbadob > RoadToad 09/02/2013 at 11:52

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oh whatever, it's not like there is actually any difference between the Chevy and GMC versions except the badges!

ezeolla > syrgrad91 09/03/2013 at 20:49

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With a removable roof!

JMTG > SonorousSpeedJoe 09/08/2013 at 21:44

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Please please have a fold flat third row

LTIROCKS > POD 09/12/2013 at 12:08

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No, I don't. There's no indication of that. And there's no reason for turbos when modern, large displacement engines with cylinder shut-off are readily available. GM just came out with an all new light duty pickup (i.e. Silverado) and there's not a single turbo engine in the offering.

The "on paper" difference between Ford's Ecoboost V6 and 5.0 V8 is a mere 1MPG, which is essentially zero in the real world. The Ecoboost is more expensive, and less reliable - especially once the warranty expires.

And Ford intentionally sandbags the 5.0 in that application (just 360 HP) becuase they're pushing the "greeness" of Ecoboost. The same basic engine makes 420 HP in the Mustang GT and made 444 in the Boss 32. Ford could EASILY get 390 HP out of "truck version" 5.0 while still retaining the required low and mid range torque.

Battery Tender Unnecessary > SonorousSpeedJoe 09/12/2013 at 12:14

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Old post

SonorousSpeedJoe > Battery Tender Unnecessary 09/12/2013 at 20:10

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Well, yeah.

It's an old post that, because it's similarly tagged, showed up in today's FP article on the new Suburban.

Battery Tender Unnecessary > SonorousSpeedJoe 09/12/2013 at 20:37

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I guess I should have been more clear. I accidentally commented on the old post instead of the new.

SonorousSpeedJoe > Battery Tender Unnecessary 09/12/2013 at 20:39

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Ah, I see. I thought that might be the case.