"moarpowerr" (moarpowerr)
08/28/2013 at 13:04 • Filed to: None
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"moarpowerr" (moarpowerr)
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I always thought that they were the same thing, until I saw recently that someone posted a picture of what they thought was a testarossa and someone corrected them and said it was a 512 TR...
ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:05 |
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Did this someone post of oppo wondering wtf?
HammerheadFistpunch
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:05 |
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liquid_popcorn
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:07 |
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I think the 512TR was a revision...it had a slight power bump over the standard Testarossa.
Takuro Spirit
> ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR
08/28/2013 at 13:08 |
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I posted it, because I hate the 512's wheels.
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moarpowerr
> HammerheadFistpunch
08/28/2013 at 13:08 |
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So pretty much the same car with a better engine and clutch...
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> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:09 |
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The 512TR is an updated Testarossa.
Testarossa:
512TR:
They aren't difficult to tell apart. Especially from the front.
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moarpowerr
> liquid_popcorn
08/28/2013 at 13:09 |
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so yeah, pretty much an updated testarossa...
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moarpowerr
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08/28/2013 at 13:11 |
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yeah i see it. People get too worked up over it though. Its pretty much an update of the same car. From the windshield back its pretty much exactly the same...
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HammerheadFistpunch
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:11 |
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more or less.
McMike
> liquid_popcorn
08/28/2013 at 13:12 |
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You are correct. The TR was a mid-cycle refresh, really.
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liquid_popcorn
> HammerheadFistpunch
08/28/2013 at 13:14 |
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Beat me to it; literally moments after I commented I went to wikipedia to verify. Hah.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:16 |
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don't forget, these are Ferrari people...
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:17 |
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512TR is a facelifted version of the Testarossa, they changed the name to try to conform with Ferrari's numerical naming scheme. Testarossa itself was a successor model to the 512 Berlinetta Boxer, as all shared the flattened Colombo V12 into a 180-degree flat horizontally opposed layout, with the gearbox slung underneath the crankcase.
512BB.
Testarossa:
Slight facelift... to the 512TR (TR being testa-rossa... head-red -> redhead.)
And the next iteration was a bit further... F512M.
And a non-ferrari... but rather a Koenig modification... I kind of like the fixed headlights (and the F512M), and the F40-esque rear end with the de-straked intakes.
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> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:20 |
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What I find really sad is the fact that neither of them poses any sort of challenge to some of the fast family cars of today. At least in a straight line.
lonestranger
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:23 |
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... and this is an F512M:
The 512TR was a major revision of the Testarossa, and the F512M was a revision of the 512TR.
The reason it's a "big deal", and where the confusion lies, is that Ferrari (AFAIK) doesn't re-use the same model name for different generations of a car. There's only one 348, one F355, one 360, one F430, one 458, etc. That's mostly due to the names usually being derived from the engine displacement, but it's true nevertheless. So, when they do a major facelift to an existing model, it still gets a unique name. The other modern car that comes to mind is the 550 Maranello & 575M. The "M" in both F512M & 575M stands for "modificato".
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moarpowerr
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08/28/2013 at 13:23 |
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but how many other cars have a horizontally opposed 12 cylinder? That in itself is awesome
Victorious Secret
> HammerheadFistpunch
08/28/2013 at 13:23 |
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Also don't forget, Ferrari people who own neither.
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Victorious Secret
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:28 |
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Think of it like BMWs LCI, Audi's facelifts, hell even Honda's emergency refresh.
They tucked in some corners, updated what they thought was needed; still the same car.
I think its a humorous saying that the only people who care about the nitty gritty details like that tend to be people who don't even own the vehicles in question.
Sn210
> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
08/28/2013 at 13:32 |
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The 512 M had weird tail lights too. But the Testarossa and the TR had the similar style
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McMike
> moarpowerr
08/28/2013 at 13:37 |
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How many production cars had a flat 12? That's the question you should have asked.
Just the ones in this thread? BB512, and the Testarossas?
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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> Sn210
08/28/2013 at 15:43 |
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I get that it is a "Ferrari" thing... for two pairs of round tail lights... or maybe a single pair... even though It might be arguable that Corvette used it as a mark of tradition before Ferrari started being strict about their tail light configuration.
But I kinda liked the Testarossa/512TR and 348 treatment, with tail lights behind grilles. And I also like the MP4-12C, with tail lights as the slats of the grillwork.
I also like painted pop-up headlight trims... most cars with pop-ups just have raw black plastic inner trim pieces around the light fixtures
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Sn210
> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
08/28/2013 at 16:04 |
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Oh yeah, the Testarossa/512tr definitely did tail lights much better than the 512 M. It's a much cleaner look for these cars (and the 348 as you pointed out). And I prefer the popup headlights too as opposed to what they did with the 512m.
Morgan Rock
> moarpowerr
09/26/2014 at 12:03 |
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Old thread revival, but most of the responses are pretty unhelpful, so here:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/boxers-t…
It's almost a completely different car. Despite the modest bump in power, 0-60 drops from 5.7 to 4.8. That alone is a huge difference. The handling/chassis updates are just as significant. Despite the fact that it looks nearly the same, under the skin you're going to want a 512TR over a Testarossa hands down (unless all you care about is "owning a Ferrari" and having the look of those strakes).
Eryk 2016
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06/12/2017 at 13:31 |
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it looks like that the Ferrari 512TR is a new version of the Ferrari Testarossa like rlly for me its the same problem with the Lamborghini Diablo and Lamborghini Countach D: