Most braindead things your friends said about cars or driving

". ." (xllx) 08/14/2013 at 12:54 • Filed to: oppositelock

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Let's share some of the stupidest things regarding cars you've ever heard from people you know.

Let me start:

- A female friend I was helping once wanted me to back her car into a narrow gate. She's a bit of a crappy driver so I agreed to do it. I get in, pop the car into reverse and when look in the mirrors (I always back up looking in the mirrors, not the rear windshield) I notice that they're basically pointing into outer space. After successfully backing up, I ask the friend about her mirrors and she said that she never uses them anyway. She claimed that her driving instructor taught her to disragard mirrors and just look over the shoulder. Needless to say, I've not let her drive me anywhere since then.

- A friend of a friend heard the blow-off sound on an Evo doing a fly-by and thought it was an air brake. What's more, he's an utter automotive moron. He has no problem with using tyres that are 10+ years old, or having 4 different ones on his car. He won't ever check his engine oil because "that's what the annual inspection is for". Finally, when his handbrake packed up, he refused to just start leaving the car in gear "because if that wasn't harmful, automakers wouldn't put hadbrakes in cars". Until he got it fixed, he'd leave the car with stones under the wheels.

- A person I know kept claiming that he can destroy M3s in his Prius and ZJ Grand Cherokee, because they have automatic transmissions and those make cars faster. He wouldn't listen to any arguments and said that any attempt to quickly drive a "standard" car would just burn out the clutch.

- I've met a person who was bewildered by the fact that I can take my feet off the pedals (in a manual car) while driving and the vehicle won't stall. Any attempts to explain how it worked proved futile. What's even more scary is that this person is now an amateur automotive journalist. Yup, he's one of the people whose reviews you read because deciding on a purchase.

- People saying that AWD helps with braking are standard fare.

LandSpeed-DSM > . . 08/14/2013 at 12:56

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Talking about exhausts and "needing backpressure" anything regarding turbos or cams.. boost pressure is another fun one. Really anything more complicated than air-filters to be honest. Even there, the concept of pressure drop as a function of surface area vs. engine demand flow seems to be out of reach no matter how many times we have the conversation.

Long story short they like to bench race, talk about parts they don't understand, throw around HP figures added or removed willy-nilly and stop just short of thinking racing stripes and stickers make you faster.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > . . 08/14/2013 at 12:57

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not quiet car related- My friend says to me, completely honestly, "You're an engineer, does that mean that you can drive trains?"

For Sweden > . . 08/14/2013 at 12:59

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"I don't want to drive a manual in the city."

CounterTorqueSteer > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:02

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I once heard a lady say that her engine was powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft. Some people...

DocWalt > LandSpeed-DSM 08/14/2013 at 13:04

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"needing backpressure" is especially dumb on a turbo car... You can lose power pretty quickly going with too big of an exhaust on an N/A car, which is where the "needing backpressure" crap came from, I guess.

Mattbob > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 08/14/2013 at 13:05

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I wish they taught us that as standard for all forms of engineering! I mean it cant be that hard, and it would be good party conversation fodder.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > CounterTorqueSteer 08/14/2013 at 13:05

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I heard a lady say that turbo motors are powered by their exhaust steam.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:05

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Talking to people at car meets and realizing they are spitting out stuff they heard from a car reviewer. They got some facts right here and there but mostly blowing steam.

You're a car guy right? Turns into hey I've got this problem can you take a look at it. No I am a gear head with a passion for racing who understands all the basic concepts of how things work but I know nothing about your car in particular. I am a gear head not a mechanic.

Explaining how turbo diesel engines work to a subaru guy. Thought he was on board until he started talking about what he knew about diesels. Which was clearly 1980s knowledge based.

The smartest girl in my school had trouble answering what kind of car she drove and what engine it had in it. I feel like some basic knowledge is important if you are going to rely on something everyday and if you need to take care of it. Unfortunately people often take this approach with kids and pets.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:06

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Well, here's some of my experience:

-My ex once said that her Honda Fit is faster than any other car because her car has an i-VTEC.

-My friend prefer a Camry than a BMW 3-Series because Camry would handle better than any other car.

-My brother once use Oil as a Coolant because they have the same color. Really.

LandSpeed-DSM > DocWalt 08/14/2013 at 13:06

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Exactly, and even then the backpressure is not the goal.. its exact velocity and pulse timing. The pressure you are looking for is actually the low pressure zone behind each pulse, and the idea is to time it (the low pressure side of the exhaust pulse) in such a manner that it helps "pull" the next one along.

This is of course only achieved over a specific rev range, and even then is a function of load/heat.

We've had that conversation too.

CKeffer > LandSpeed-DSM 08/14/2013 at 13:14

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People always seem to confuse exhaust velocity with backpressure. You will most definitely lose power by going with an exhaust system that's too large for your engine, but that's not a function of backpressure, it's due to a loss of exhaust velocity....Explaining this to folks usually gets a blank look.

GhostZ > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:14

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"Cars are not really necessary, we need to stop buying cars. Everyone should just use public transit!" From friends who have never lived outside of inner-city NY or Chicago..

Montalvo > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:19

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The mirrors thing is somewhat true to be honest. You should use them but it is common for instructors to say you should turn your head and look out of the windows because they want you to physically see the car/obstructions behind you or to the side of you. I think it was done just to drill into their head to look before you do anything.

DocWalt > LandSpeed-DSM 08/14/2013 at 13:21

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Which is exactly how the new SkyActiv engines are getting away with stratospherically high compression, scavenging is fantastic when you're in the right rev range.

pdthedeuce > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:24

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BJ > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 08/14/2013 at 13:25

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The coolant was golden, or the oil was bright green?

Either way, I want to live in that strange fantasy land!

moarpowerr > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:29

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One time a friend said to me "I wont buy a new set of tires for my car because they will get worn out anyways" ...his tires were bald

Another friend of mine - " hubcaps wigh less than alloys because they are made of plastic" ... he didn't know they were attached to steelies.

I cant count how many times people refer to Dual clutches as autos because it doesnt have a third pedal, this one irks me the most.

And the stupidest one by far was in the form of a question "how do you drive a manual if your only supposed to use one foot?"

GreenN_Gold > Montalvo 08/14/2013 at 13:30

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But you only turn your head as one last check after you've already checked your mirror. There's no reason to be turning your head constantly.

GreenN_Gold > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:31

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You guys all have stupid friends. Upgrade your friends asap!

AbigGRNboot > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:32

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"Subaru's aren't Japanese, they're Australian."

. . > AbigGRNboot 08/14/2013 at 13:33

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Shit ay, mate!

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > BJ 08/14/2013 at 13:36

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Well, the coolant was yellow.

Just visit Indonesia.

CKeffer > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:37

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- The guy who lived above me in college was convinced that his F body Trans Am was one of the best handling cars ever made. I asked for another beer at that point to prevent myself from just busting out laughing.

-My uncle was convinced that his friend's Audi that saw track time handled to well because it had enough weight to really push the car into the ground giving it more grip in the corners.

. . > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 08/14/2013 at 13:40

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My grandfather once used diesel he had standing around as washer fluid. Granted that it was in a washer fluid bottle, but that bottle had "DIESEL" written all over it. It completely ruined the screen washer system. He only noticed his mistake after repeated squirting caused the windshield to be completely impossible to see through.

desertdog5051 > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:40

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I have a friend who claims to be a "car guy". Can't check or change his oil. Never checks tire pressure. And one time drove with the drivers front tire so low on air that the heat caused the inside of the tire to start to separate. Oh, and said he did not notice anything different in how it drove. Does not know how to put the spare tire on or even where the jack and spare are located. I think a "car guy" should at least know the basics. But that's just me.

. . > desertdog5051 08/14/2013 at 13:41

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I think everyone should know about this kind of thing. Not only car guys.

. . > CKeffer 08/14/2013 at 13:42

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Don't tell Colin Chapman. He'll get depressed that he had wasted his life.

Montalvo > GreenN_Gold 08/14/2013 at 13:46

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Well you see you are thinking with the mentality of driving for a while. If you are experienced then you are fine and most likely won't cause an accident. The issue is with new drivers who commonly have a tunnel vision issue. New drivers rarely turn their head and that can lead to problems with being aware with their surroundings. This is a way to combat that mentality and that it is fine to move around a bit. After a while they will just use the mirrors but it is a great way to kind of subconsciously fix it.

Chteelers > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:46

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These occurred over several years...

Guy at gas station: So is that fast?

Another guy at gas station: So is that fast or what?

Another guy at gas station: So how fast is it?

I've yet to think of an appropriately snarky response to this question which is so brain-numbingly obvious ("Um.. yes.") and yet so completely unanswerable ("Do you mean acceleration? Top speed? Compared to your car? In a straight line or around a track? As a daily driver? Compared to an actual racecar? What spec series?")

CKeffer > . . 08/14/2013 at 13:47

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Lol, thankfully I was able to correct my uncle. I tied some twine around some big metal washers, and had him swing it around in a circle, then I added a bunch more, and asked him if he had to hold on tighter to keep the string and washers from flying off with more or fewer washers, then I told hem that tires were doing pretty much the same thing in a turn. Granted in reality it's not quite that simple, but the illustration got the point across.

wkiernan > CounterTorqueSteer 08/14/2013 at 13:51

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Was she driving a DAF?

Chteelers > Chteelers 08/14/2013 at 13:59

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-My wife is convinced that if we go any faster than the posted limit on an onramp, that the failure mode will be instantly rolling the car. In a Camry. No amount of explanation of tire slip will change her thinking.

-While playing Taboo against a teams of 4 girls, their card's answer was "Tachometer". So their player says, "This gauge shows you how fast your car is going!" And before our team of 4 guys could even start laughing at how wrong her prompt was, all 3 girls yelled in unison "The tachometer!!!" Wait, what??

. . > Montalvo 08/14/2013 at 14:04

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Still, you don't want your mirrors just pointing nowhere, even if you're a complete beginner (and she wasn't).

TurboSloth > . . 08/14/2013 at 14:04

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1) My neighbor got a new accord, and challenged my dad to a race in my dad's mustang GT because the accord has V-Tec.

2) My dentist said he liked to modify cars. When asked how he modified his latest car, he said he added a new radio. He had it installed in a shop.

3) My dentist again, gave his assistant some advice when his assistant spun out in her Acura TSX. She spun out in the rain, and he suggested that she needed to replace her axles. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking.

GreenN_Gold > Montalvo 08/14/2013 at 14:07

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Well she should at least point the mirrors correctly, that might help her get acclamated to them more quickly, as in like ever.

Decay buys too many beaters > moarpowerr 08/14/2013 at 14:12

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What would you define a dual clutch as? To me, any car that is capable of automatically shifting is an automatic. Obviously this is not to be confused with torque converter automatics and the dual clutch is very much an improvement. But no one I know would consider it a "manual"

BJ > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 08/14/2013 at 14:14

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Must be a different product than what we use here in North America - my experience is that coolant is bright green, or sometimes red, but I guess you don't need coolant with antifreeze protection down to -40C...

delete-me-please123 > . . 08/14/2013 at 14:15

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A friend of a friend was adamant that the Bugatti Veyron doesn't exist and isn't real because it was just too over the top.

This deli slut I was trying to bang insisted that her friends toyota pickup was faster than my 996 911.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TurboSloth 08/14/2013 at 14:31

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replace her axles

o_o

O_O

That's almost "why did you turn?" levels of absurdity and meme-worthiness.

delete-me-please123 > . . 08/14/2013 at 14:31

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On the 101 through Solana Beach in me and my Father's 1914 Buick, it stalled and we pulled over. While troubleshooting the issue a stupid cyclist stopped and asked "Did your car break down?" I quickly replied "No its fine, we just wanted to pull over to make sure the engine was still there." points at engine "Yep, still there" He peddled away and said "ok". I wonder how long it took him to realize that he needs some ointment for that burn.

BTW: the fuel filter was clogged. Again.

delete-me-please123 > . . 08/14/2013 at 14:37

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Just thought of another one.

In high school I twisted my ankle pretty bad one day, while the nurse was wrapping my foot I mentioned that its going to be really difficult and painful to drive home because I drive a manual (68 Camaro with a new heavy clutch). She looked me in the eyes and said:
"Well, which foot do you drive with?"

The pain helped me not laugh in her face.

delete-me-please123 > Decay buys too many beaters 08/14/2013 at 14:39

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I'm with Decay. No third peddle = automatic.

GreenN_Gold > Chteelers 08/14/2013 at 14:47

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It's friendly conversation. They're basically saying, "I like your car." Don't be so harsh.

TurboSloth > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/14/2013 at 14:53

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I was ready to walk out of the dentists office, but he had his hand in my mouth.

neon wario > moarpowerr 08/14/2013 at 15:13

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Yeah, it's different from an automatic, but for most drivers, there's not that much of a difference.

Think of it this way, if you're looking for an M3 on eBay, you probably want to be able to filter between the 6 speed and SMG/DCT.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > . . 08/14/2013 at 15:37

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I've had not one, not two, but eight different people ask me what a Ferrari is, because they never heard of Ferrari.
(Insert facepalm here)

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > BJ 08/14/2013 at 15:40

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Can't blame her for saying the Camry will handle well. After all, it is grounded to the ground.

Joe_Limon > CKeffer 08/14/2013 at 15:40

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I find the easiest way to explain it to people is to agree that yes, the tyres do get more frictional force, but, and here is the big but, under higher loads the tyres lose their efficiency, where an extra pound of weight may only give .8 or .9 lbs of traction. This is why a vehicle with fat tyres, and little mass can get more traction.

Chteelers > GreenN_Gold 08/14/2013 at 15:43

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Yeah, I get that. But they should just say that, or ask something more original. Asking "Is that fast?" is the equivalent to approaching a girl at the bar and saying, "So, would you like a drink?" It's banal and tiresome.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > GreenN_Gold 08/14/2013 at 15:48

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Everyone I know is like this. Can't really upgrade my friends when no one I know can even tell me what car they drive.

moarpowerr > Decay buys too many beaters 08/14/2013 at 15:50

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Yes you can put it in auto mode, but for alot of dct's, they wont upshift if they hit the rev limiter. A 'manual' suggests that you have the control of shifting the gears. If a dct won't upshift unless you tell it to, then it is a manual. It still engages/disengages the clutch(s) when you shift gears, it does not have a torque converter, and unless your in auto mode, it wont shift for you. I think that is another way to look at a manual.

GreenN_Gold > Chteelers 08/14/2013 at 16:17

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I agree it's a stupid question, but I wouldn't bite their heads off. I would probably say, "Yeah, it's fun."

Annnnd then try to end the conversation quickly before I'm faced with more stupid questions.

GreenN_Gold > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 08/14/2013 at 16:22

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Upgrade you acquaintances too maybe? That would give you a better pool from which to select friends. ;)

I promise you can find people that know the make and model of their car. Probably not much more, but they can at least say, "I drive a Nissan Rogue."

xxstich666xx > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 08/14/2013 at 16:38

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....Do you live in Mumbai or something.......

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > xxstich666xx 08/14/2013 at 16:40

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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania...

xxstich666xx > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 08/14/2013 at 16:49

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..really?

Decay buys too many beaters > moarpowerr 08/14/2013 at 16:54

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To me a "manual" transmission implies as much control as possible is in the hands of the driver. I would classify DCTs as another form of auto. Can they for instance..

Select gears at will? (say go from 2nd to 5th)

Pop the clutch to allow burnouts, drifting, and other hooliganism?

I am quite aware that they are faster than manuals, and much better than slushbox autos. They do conceptually bore me because they take all the finesse out of shifting. If getting a perfectly rev matched downshift is as easy as pulling a lever it loses the quality that makes it a nearly spiritual experience with a true manual transmission.

To me it ends up being like playing a video game on easy or hard. In both cases you can win the game but playing on hard with all its frustrations and added BS is arguably the more rewarding experience.

moarpowerr > Decay buys too many beaters 08/14/2013 at 16:59

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I see where you are coming from.

But yes the new GT3 can "pop" the clutch if you pull both paddles at the same time, and yes you can shift multiple gears in some dct's if you hold the paddle you want to shift.

I am not saying that they should be called manuals, I am saying that they shouldnt be called autos, cause they are neither of them. It just gets annoying hearing "oh that ferrari sucks, it has an auto", when its actually so much more complex than that.

shpuker > . . 08/14/2013 at 17:11

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Sti drove past and issued a beautiful and loud blow off in my ear. Then a friend of a friend pipped in, "Oh god I wonder what broke?..." Explaining why it was supposed to sound like that obviously didn't go well.

The whole, "I'm a great driver! I've never been in an accident!" line always makes me cringe too.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > xxstich666xx 08/14/2013 at 17:11

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Unfortunately, yes. Half of them had genuinely never heard the word Ferrari before. The other half had absolutely no grasp of what a Ferrari was. They thought other cars were Ferraris and only after I proved them wrong did they confess they had no idea what a Ferrari really was. Here's the cars they confused for Ferraris: Corvette, Mustang, Elise (forgivable), and a Boxster. Honestly, I think they learned more about cars from me in two years than they learned about cars in the rest of their lives. I only know about two people who even sort of like cars.

MommaMechanic > Chteelers 08/14/2013 at 17:18

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A few months ago, an '01 Diablo showed up in the plaza where I work, and so naturally I wandered outside to get a better look, as did a couple of teenagers. One of them dared ask the owner as he stepped out of the car if it was fast.

MommaMechanic > . . 08/14/2013 at 17:23

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Had a female customer come in a couple days ago, purchase some oil to top off her car and went on her merry way. Now, it's fairly common to have to help people figure out what oil they need, and she was no exception. However, a few minutes later, she comes back in the store and explains that she doesn't know how to get her hood to go down. So I went out with her, and let her show me how she was futilely poking at the hood struts looking for a button before I closed the hood for her. *sigh*

Spasoje > Montalvo 08/14/2013 at 17:44

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Actually, my driving school taught us what GreenN_Gold said...word-f0r-word.

Constantly check one's mirrors, but never forget a shoulder check, be it new driver or old.

Spasoje > For Sweden 08/14/2013 at 17:48

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I think you just won this entire thread.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > TurboSloth 08/14/2013 at 17:57

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And you didn't bite?

Decay buys too many beaters > moarpowerr 08/14/2013 at 18:04

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Sweet! I did not know that about the GT3.

I would never go so far as to say that DCTs are bad or in some way handicapped. I'm sure that people who choose to drive them can be just as connected to their vehicle as with manuals, it's just not my personal preference.

It really bothers me that modern versions of cars I previously aspired to own are no longer offered with the option of a conventional manual.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Chteelers 08/14/2013 at 18:04

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I think the real news here was that they knew what a tachometer was...I don't know more than a few girls that do, or any people for that matter that aren't into cars.

TurboSloth > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 08/14/2013 at 18:08

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Nope. My first reaction was eye twitching.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > delete-me-please123 08/14/2013 at 18:09

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Once had a guy adamantly insist that Vipers have a V12, and "everyone knows that"...I offered huge money on it, said we could go find one (we were in the city so it wouldn't have been so hard), and see for ourselves. I showed him a car mag. "Nope..nope it's got a V12, everyone else is wrong, and I don't need to prove myself." I wanted to punch this guy after a while.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > CKeffer 08/14/2013 at 18:11

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I once had a guy argue to me that muscle cars will out-handle any exotic ever made. I had to literally fight for breath due to laughing so hard.

trynthink > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 08/14/2013 at 18:53

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Clearly they didn't know what a tachometer was, they just knew the word was related to a gauge in their car. If they knew what it was, they wouldn't have said it in response to "this gauge shows you how fast your car is going."

trynthink > delete-me-please123 08/14/2013 at 18:54

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What is a 'deli slut'?

JasonStern911 > . . 08/14/2013 at 19:35

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Naturally aspirated rotaries are perfectly reliable as long as you keep up on the maintenance!

- Me, before actually owning one

delete-me-please123 > trynthink 08/14/2013 at 19:37

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heh, a slut that works at a deli.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > MommaMechanic 08/14/2013 at 19:54

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At least she knew that she was supposed to change the oil.

Stang70Fastback > . . 08/15/2013 at 00:16

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My personal favorite by some girl who I am no longer in contact with:

"Why does my car do this weird thing when I press the gas, where it kind of stops speeding up for a second and then starts going again?"
"You mean, when it changes gears?"
"What's that?"

*facepalm*

Chteelers > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 08/15/2013 at 07:33

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Point is missed. Not only did the card reader think the tachometer shows vehicle speed, but so did the other 3 girls. So they won the point, but lost our respect.

CKeffer > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 08/15/2013 at 09:13

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Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.

404usernotfound > delete-me-please123 08/15/2013 at 09:44

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The biker just wanted to help, and when he detected your sarcasm, he just knew whe wasn't wanted and just played along and left. (Probably) nothing stupid about that.

Lokki > . . 08/15/2013 at 09:53

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Went shopping with my wife - she was driving. Searching for a parking space at the mall. I see a car backing out and say " that guy's leaving - let's take that one". She says," how do you know?". I say, "see the back-up lights." She says, "what are back-up lights?" The other famous one was when we got a new car and she had to drive it at night alone for the first time. She couldn't remember how to dim the headlights and they were on hi-beam. Every on-coming car would flash to tell her to dim so she would !turn off the headlights! Finally THAT was too much trouble so she, yes, just turned them off and drove home with no lights . ..... I never let her drive when we go somewhere together.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Chteelers 08/15/2013 at 11:36

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Right. But how did they even know the word...tachometer? That's crazy. But definitely lost major points for thinking it's the SPEEDOMETER holy shit how do you fuck that up.