![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:23 • Filed to: Preemptive thank you | ![]() | ![]() |
When drama rears its ugly head, as it is wont to do, please do everything within your power to keep the drama contained to the pertinent post. A vast majority of us here do not actually appreciate the drama which spills outside of the post.
Referencing the post in subsequent posts, bringing it back to life, or furthering the drama outside of the initial post just gives more life to it. I would like to believe that we are all capable of acting like adults, and can own up to our own failings (I can, and have, and likely will).
Let's work to resolve drama, rather than start or perpetuate it.
Thank you.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:25 |
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What is this drama you speak of? Seriously, what's going on?
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:25 |
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I'm going in a blaze of glory Gamecat, I alway knew it would end this way.
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Oh sure, the black one's sad. Racist.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:26 |
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Do you see the irony of your post?
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:26 |
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But... but... the other guy is wrong and I am right!
I think it's safe to say that everyone must be hating today, and it shows.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:27 |
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No. Do you look for drama in the attempts to control it?
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:28 |
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Which is why I ask to keep it to the post in which it originated, rather than spilling outside of the post which it is pertinent to.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:30 |
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A post about controlling the drama by not splitting it up in a lot of posts is imo just keeping the drama alive. I get your point though, I just don't think it will help keeping the drama down....
EDIT: I feel like my comment isn't helping either, so I try to stay quiet now...
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:34 |
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I hear you, I'm just saying - it's gon happen. Sometimes it's too tempting to try and summon your Oppo brethren. Just like the dismiss button got VS in trouble, over-or-misusing the share button has and should get you into trouble, but it's there for a reason.
Like the reply I just shared - I know it was politically tinged, but the focus was cars and that person was being ignorant. I was proud of fending him off in a mature way and wanted others to see (which I guess makes me immature, but we're all notification-whores here). I wasn't calling for a mass-trolling of this person, but when you make dumb, mean-spirited comments on a site with a readership as passionate as this one, you deserve to get called out.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:34 |
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You are probably correct, however, referring folks back to this post and the Oppo handbook will hopefully assist in the control portion if it does get out of hand.
And in truth I do see the irony, but for the sake of attempting to moderate, and keep the forum as drama free as possible, I figured it would not hurt to ask.
One of the expectations here is that everyone conducts themselves as adults. As unrealistic as it is, it is still out there. =)
A guy can dream, right? =)
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:36 |
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Re: your edit. Challenging a viewpoint, and doing so rationally and calmly is ALWAYS welcome here. Always . Please ask questions when you have them. Challenge us, it will only make the community stronger.
We are not perfect, and will never claim to be. If we make mistakes we need to own them, learn from them, and if needed, correct them.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:39 |
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I can't speak for everyone, and I may not agree with everything you say or do, but I personally don't want you to leave. If this is what you are inferring here, I hope you reconsider. I like your posts, most of your rants and generally think you are great to have around.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:39 |
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The deserving to be called out part is what we want to avoid. I agree that there are times where drawing attention to a comment is required. But in your case, you had already resolved the issue, and had done so quite nicely.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:40 |
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Touche. You're right, that's why you're the mod, etc. Mondays suck.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:41 |
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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/why-victorious…
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Oh snap, shit is going down. I'm not getting involved.
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Personally, from me to you. Stay.
Please .
We don't always see eye to eye. But no two people ever do. You bring a lot to the community, and you comment on the FP regularly. I'm not going to perpetuate anything else within this thread, but I will say that I have 3+ years of agreeing and disagreeing with you, and that while you can be infuriating, you also are blunt and honest and admit when you're wrong. We need more people like you.
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Mondays man.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:48 |
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There was drama on here? Oh good, I was too busy making delicious pastries to pay any attention to it. Keep it up with your good work, cheers! :)
![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:50 |
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I know, but after the drama that has been going on lately I am not always quite sure about what I should post and what I shouldn't...
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Well, sorry about that...
I just find it rediculous that the Editor in Chief would make such a crapstorm-inducing post. I've looked through the comments; I still don't get his reasoning.
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You should at least read about it. It's an interesting discussion about the limits of the "Dismiss" button in Kinja, and basic FP etiquette.
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You can always ask, or if you feel that something needs additional asking, you can email us at oppomoderator at gmail dot com (this will reach me, and a few other moderators), or you can email me directly at my name here at gmail dot com. Or post something beyond a jump with a question as to whether something will be appropriate.
The point is, challenge us, ask questions, clarify. If we can help, we will.
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It's not ours to understand. And I failed at my attempt, and left it there for all to see. =)
I think that perhaps there is a chance that Matt and I share a similar feeling regarding unnecessary dismissals ? But I won't speak for him. Nor pretend to do so.
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![]() 12/09/2013 at 18:57 |
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thank you, I think most of the stuff I post here is appropriate, just all the FP-drama about nothing makes me sometimes forget how nice things are on oppo... thanks for reminding me!
![]() 12/09/2013 at 19:08 |
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Who knows drama better than you. (yeah, buddy you walked right into that).
![]() 12/09/2013 at 19:11 |
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Well, at least the Tahoe shit storm I started over on the Burdundy/Durango story stayed relatively contained! (Aside from right now of course. For the record this is not a call to further participation.)
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I think I just set a personal record of 87 participants. I've gotten in the 60's and 70's before, but this seems to be a particularly hot button issue. One that, interestingly, evolved into a rather intriguing philosophical discussion; as well as a few requisite personal attacks and blanket statements.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 19:19 |
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Why go, though? It's not like you're not welcome and shit.
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Would have expected Kiwi Zorro to have fallen off the wagon instead of you being banished to the gray..
What a crazy world we live in...up is down and the Miata is apparently not always the correct answer.
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You know where to still find me, where I'm less of a douchebag I suppose.
I should feel honored, I mean a personal calling out. Thats huge I guess, it adds to the internet resume a substantial amount.
I know you've always been a great sport with my posts here and elsewhere and I appreciate, but I know I've worn that welcome out substantially with everyone here. Theres no need to pretend that I'm anything more or less than a shit disturber. Well, thats what I'll be labelled as going forward.
Someone else can do my job better than I ever could, you'll have the new VS in due time. Hopefully one with a better hold on the whole brain-keyboard issue.
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SKZ is less of a bastard than I am, there is really no other way to put it.
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Yeah but considering that he was a pain-in-the-ass little troll for the longest time, you'd have a hard time specifically convincing me of that.
You have the in-your-face straight forward asshole thing going on, that I appreciate when it comes to cutting through the bullshit people coat certain topics in. Bastard or not, it works.
All I can say on this whole topic is, regardless of gray or not, pretty sure you're comments are still going to be up at the top of discussions.
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I'm done, so you probably won't anymore. I'll hand off my photography moderating to someone else as well I suppose, why keep it up?
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Maybe it's not our right to understand. But I'd sure like to know what constitutes a public shaming 'round these parts—from the Editor in Chief, no less—and, more importantly, why.
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Not sure. Read his comments and ask him?
![]() 12/09/2013 at 20:02 |
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I have! Currently awaiting an answer.
Honestly, I don't really think any reasons were good enough to warrant that.
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Saddened to hear that, enjoyed reading your posts.
![]() 12/09/2013 at 20:59 |
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Here's something you didn't know about me: I'm a very curious person. However, I knew instantly who was in the spotlight the second I saw the word "drama" on Oppo. :P
![]() 12/10/2013 at 00:16 |
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Oh my God, This.
![]() 12/10/2013 at 00:23 |
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Ah, no. He ignores basic truths. Even those that hit him square in face.
You hit them head on. It's almost infuriating because by the end of the post, you present no choice but to totally agree with you. Then I step back and say, no dammit, that's not the point.
God, my wife does that.
But I don't have to live with you.
Well, it has been a couple of years......
![]() 12/10/2013 at 01:21 |
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I appreciate what everyone has said, and in ways that do make me have a hearty LULZ, but the truth that I have to accept is that I'm a dinosaur. My way of posting doesn't work at all, maybe it never did.
If theres any good will I ever had here, its been long gone. Thats okay. I can't change that and I sure as hell don't deserve to, not the way I've treated people. Words may just be over the internet, but I'm well too aware of how much those words and actions can sting. I should have known better.
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No. You are way too humble at this point, God forbid. A way like yours is necessary in the pecking order, however pissed it makes people sometimes. You take out the trash.
Keep a little humility, lose a little attitude.
Be wrong once in a while.
And cover the 6 of those who cover yours.
![]() 12/10/2013 at 11:00 |
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It seems he has responded a few more times to clarify some of his position. I didn't notice if he responded directly to you, but there was some additional information.
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nevermind, stumbled across this unfashionably late.
![]() 12/11/2013 at 09:21 |
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I will say that the rotaries implications seriously made me laugh. =)
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good deal. i try to make light when and where i can. i'll figure this dynamic forum out eventually.