"jlmounce" (jlmounce) 12/06/2013 at 12:35 • Filed to: Mustang, 2015, Modified, Pony Car, Muscle Car

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This is swaying my decision against the C7. My checkbook would also like the $15,000-$20,000 savings.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 12:40

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If I were you I'd wait for the next SVT Mustang to come out.

Milky > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 12:45

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Ehh … the Mustang still won't do sub 4 seconds to 60, and it WILL start to blend in about a year or so when you've seen so many aka like with the Fusion after 3 months.

JR1 > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 12:49

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You could wait for the mustang to come out and drive them both OR buy the c7 and then test the mustang when it comes out and if you like it more or nearly as much sell the c7

jlmounce > Milky 12/06/2013 at 12:50

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A valid point, but around my area there's as many, if not more Corvettes as there are Mustangs. That Limerock green is tits though!

jlmounce > JR1 12/06/2013 at 12:51

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I don't plan on buying until my GTI is paid off mid 2015, so I'll be driving both then.

jlmounce > Goshen, formerly Darkcode 12/06/2013 at 12:52

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I'm waiting to see what that entails. I generally track my vehicles, so I stay away from supercharged applications. Way too much heat to attempt to manage on track.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Milky 12/06/2013 at 12:54

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with that 15 to 20k you save I'm sure you can get to <4 seconds.

Milky > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 12:55

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More Vette's than Mustangs?! Where is this holy land you speak of?

EDIT: as for spending that money to bring it to the corvettes level, I think thats rather silly to say because the Vette will always be a better platform for racing and it will go a lot further if you are modifying. Lower, better balance (front mid), shorter, and crucially less weight.

jlmounce > Milky 12/06/2013 at 12:59

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Northern Colorado my friend! There's seriously a ton of Corvettes around here.

CobraJoe > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 13:02

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I wish I had your predicament.

Perhaps the big question would be "What exactly do you want?"

If you possibly want to drive in the winter or with some extra passengers, the Mustang would be the better bet.

If you only want something fun to drive on the weekends in nice weather on curvy roads, I'd bet the Vette would be the better choice, though it'd really depend on what you find entertaining. (I'm purely guessing here: if you want real speed, the Vette might be better. If you want the sensation of speed and some drama, it's possible that the Mustang could be better.)

If you want speed on a track, go for the vette.

efme > Milky 12/06/2013 at 13:05

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You could say the same thing about a 'vette. I saw 8 of them at the last cars and coffee i was at which was over 6 weeks ago.

it also does start to blend in with camaro rear ends after 3 months :)

Milky > efme 12/06/2013 at 13:14

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C&C is one thing, I'm talking about daily life, traffic. Where a Corvette will always stick out more just based on proportions alone. I don't know about where you live but where I am I pass mustangs all day without even a second glance, a corvette on the other hand has my attention, at least for a little bit.

Milky > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 13:14

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You live with some uncreative rich people then.

jlmounce > CobraJoe 12/06/2013 at 13:17

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I'm in a position where I've owned both mustangs and Vettes. Several iterations of both. They are definitely breeds a part. You can't really reach the limits of either one on the street, so fun factor there is actually about the same. The high strung 5.0 is a bit livelier though as you mention.

Ultimately it's going to come down to which one is more comfortable on the street. While I do track my vehicles, they spend most of their time on cruises. Even without the back seat, I've found the corvette to be more comfortable than most of my previous Mustangs. The back seat is nice, but unnecessary for me.

If you believe it, I actually lapped PPIR faster in my 2011 GT than I did my '13 C6. Of course the Vette had the base FE1 suspension, while my GT had the 55B Brembo and suspension package. It benefited from much better tires, much better brakes and a stiffer suspension.

jlmounce > Milky 12/06/2013 at 13:18

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That pretty much hit the nail on the head for this region.

1337HPMustang > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 13:23

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You mentioned you track your cars, so get the incredible new vette. I can't see how anyone would regret getting one. Me personally, I love straight line speed more than I do cornering, but I do autox on the side. I think autox is very fun in big v8 powered, relatively unbalanced cars. Your tires won't like it, but if you don't care about times, you're sure to have a blast.

CobraJoe > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 13:45

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Well, I can honestly state that I have no idea which would be better on the street. The Mustang will have a new IRS, which will certainly be more comfortable on bumpy roads than the old live axle (how much will really depend on the springs and dampeners they chose to use), but doesn't even the base vette have adjustable suspension now? So, yeah, any experience I've had with the older models has no validity anymore.

I can believe the modified Mustang beating a stock Vette around a track, the mods can really add up and make a difference.

Pessimippopotamus > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 13:49

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If that 200lb weight saving rumor is true, then you'll have a Mustang with a similar power/weight ratio as a C7 Vette.

jlmounce > CobraJoe 12/06/2013 at 13:56

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The vette has had an "adjustable" suspension actually since the C5. Adjustable isn't exactly what we would be thinking about though. You can lower or raise the vehicle on it's transverse leafs a little bit. It does allow for a bit of corner weighting however.

My 2011 GT was actually bone stock. It just had Ford's performance package on it which gave you the Boss 302 brakes, stiffer springs and shocks, GT500 lower control arms in the rear and unique ESC tuning. That same performance package will be available on the new mustang, although now I think it also includes a gear type limited slip differential over the clutch type. At least that was the case with the outgoing '14 mustang.

jlmounce > Pessimippopotamus 12/06/2013 at 13:57

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I'm hoping that weight savings is realized. Ford has been claiming for a while the next mustang would be lighter. That weight savings and a car ordered with a 3.73 axle ratio would be quite quick.

CobraJoe > jlmounce 12/06/2013 at 14:08

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I was meaning the Magnetic ride control. Is that standard on all Corvettes now or still limited to the high performance versions?

And I'm even more impressed now that it was factory options on the Mustang. Even though I knew it was a close match for the M3, I still though a purpose built sports car would beat it on a track.

jlmounce > CobraJoe 12/06/2013 at 14:56

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Magnetic ride on the C7 is still an option. I want to say it's only around $1500.00 or so. Well worth it for the price.

The biggest issue with the C6 Coupes was their tires. They were crappy eagle run flats that really made it hard to find the sweet spot with the car. The tires tend to unload at random times mid-corner. The grip is always there, but it makes corner entry and exit a bit hairy. In comparison, my GT on it's factory PZero summer tires was incredibly linear and offered mountains of lateral grip. That gave me the confidence to turn in harder and get on the accelerator sooner.