'15 Mustang

"Reigntastic" (reigntastic) 12/03/2013 at 18:18 • Filed to: None

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I can't be the only one thinking this thing is god awful ugly. The front is alright, but it just doesn't make sense with the rear clip. The 2014 looks much better, at least in my opinion. The new engine options are amazing and make me excited, but I wouldn't be caught dead in one of these.

If they made that? I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Give me something that's revolutionary and stunning; not bloated and a last gasp to a design language that's been beaten like a dead horse.

PanchoVilleneuve ST > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:20

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LOOK AT HOW TINY THE GREENHOUSE IS!

Textured Soy Protein > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:21

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Well the rendering you posted looks good because they started out with this image. Something tells me it might be a little too expensive to adapt the platform for the Mustang.

Reigntastic > PanchoVilleneuve ST 12/03/2013 at 18:21

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Greenhouse? The cabin?

Brian Silvestro > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:21

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I don't think it's too bad. I think it looks a little disproportional though. I like the current one better.

Reigntastic > Textured Soy Protein 12/03/2013 at 18:22

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Ford owned Aston around this time, I have no problem with them using some of what they paid for. Give me a poor man's Aston!

Tim (Fractal Footwork) > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:22

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So you'd buy an Aston...

Reigntastic > Brian Silvestro 12/03/2013 at 18:22

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Yeah, looks awkward. Hopefully the 2014 drops in value a fair amount.

CAR_IS_MI > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:23

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I am sure you already know, but this is just a V8 Vantage with a bad photoshop. still would buy over that thing in the magazine.

And I work with a few guys who are big Mustang guys, and they all hate it, as do I

Reigntastic > Tim (Fractal Footwork) 12/03/2013 at 18:23

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Poor man's Aston? Absolutely.

Textured Soy Protein > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:23

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Ford sold Aston Martin to David Richards (chairman of Prodrive) back in 2007.

Anon > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:24

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I kind of like it.

Reigntastic > Textured Soy Protein 12/03/2013 at 18:24

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Aston's design hardly changed from 2000 onward, always was little changes here and there.

dogisbadob > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:24

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I really had high hopes for the 15 Stang. I really thought they were going to make it more like an FRS/BRZ, smaller and lighter and shit.

PS9 > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:25

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People don't want new and revolutionary. They want the same shit they've always had and they want it to suck slightly less than before.

The last time we had a total departure from older designs in the pony car world, the mustang suffered slow sales, the camaro took a 3-4 year hiatus, and the Firebird - along with the whole bloody pontiac brand - freakin' died. Nobody who can buy these things want's new. They want old designs with new tech under the skin.

Reigntastic > CAR_IS_MI 12/03/2013 at 18:26

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Yes, I'm aware, the wheels are a dead giveaway. I'm mostly getting at the need for a new direction, not the 60's with a nice update every 5 years.

They seem unwilling to let go of the past.

Textured Soy Protein > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:26

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Ok but the fact remains that the rendering you posted is still basically a DB9 with a different front fascia and fenders.

Reigntastic > Anon 12/03/2013 at 18:26

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I think it's a step in the right direction, but a huge step back in overall desirability.

Textured Soy Protein > CAR_IS_MI 12/03/2013 at 18:27

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DB9, actually.

Brian Silvestro > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:27

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Awkward is the perfect word to describe it. I'd love to see some real-life pictures. I'm sure the driving experience is better, and that 4 cylinder is pretty cool, but that's about it for now.

Pessimippopotamus > Brian Silvestro 12/03/2013 at 18:28

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I won't pass judgement until I see it in person.

The proportions look alright in normal viewing angles, not like in the above photo shoot.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:29

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The only things I don't like about that leaked image is the high belt line and the body-colored diffuser. Otherwise, it draws heavily from the 1970 Mach 1, while including bits from the 2013-14 Mustang, Enos concept, and the corporate Ford styling.

CAR_IS_MI > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:29

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They just need to stop fucking around and pick one or the other, either the mustang becomes a true sports car or it hangs around the modern muscle theme, not this somewhere in between BS.

Reigntastic > PS9 12/03/2013 at 18:32

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I can't wait for the generational shift that's around the corner.

Brian Silvestro > Pessimippopotamus 12/03/2013 at 18:32

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This is why I like photos of cars in real life rather then in a set-up photo shoot. It makes the cars look much more natural and therefore very nice-looking.

Reigntastic > Textured Soy Protein 12/03/2013 at 18:33

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Do you expect this to be some massive revelation to me? It's irrelevant. It's a hell of a lot better looking than what they've put up on the front page of C&D, and that's exactly what I'm getting at. If some PS wizard can do that in an hour, why can't an entire design department make something nice to look at?

Birddog > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:34

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I'm on the fence. Until I actually see one in person I'm not going to judge.
It seems, to me, that a lot of recent new cars just don't photograph well but look awesome on the street..

Reigntastic > Brian Silvestro 12/03/2013 at 18:34

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I definitely need to see one in real life, it's too soon to call it.

Reigntastic > Paul, Man of Mustangs 12/03/2013 at 18:35

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The high belt line is a big one for me, makes the car look massive. It probably will be, anyways.

Pessimippopotamus > Paul, Man of Mustangs 12/03/2013 at 18:36

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Evos. Hahaha. Enos concept would be hilarious.

Reigntastic > Birddog 12/03/2013 at 18:36

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Definitely need to see one in person myself.

Reigntastic > dogisbadob 12/03/2013 at 18:38

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American car manufacturers only seem interested in straight line performance with this segment for the time being.

Pessimippopotamus > dogisbadob 12/03/2013 at 18:38

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Why would they ever stray away from an incredibly lucrative market? Especially when they're not doing a bad job with it?

Textured Soy Protein > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:40

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But the "PS wizard" didn't do much. Most of the design is pure DB9. Look at the original image. All the photoshopper did was make the front end look like a Mustang. They didn't even come up with a proper shut line for the hood. The original DB9 shut line disappears mid-way down to the front of the car.

I'm not trying to flame you or get you riled up. If you don't like the look of the new Mustang, fine. But to honestly think "this should look more like a DB9 with a different front end on it" is a bit unrealistic, IMHO. You could buy 6 Mustangs for the price of a DB9.

Reigntastic > Textured Soy Protein 12/03/2013 at 18:43

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How about the EVOS concept then? That's all ford, and it isn't ugly as sin.

Victorious Secret > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:45

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Except the Mustang GT asks the M3 who's its daddy is, to say nothing of the Boss 302.

And the IRS only means it gets better at the side to side business.

The Mustang stopped being about straight line since the 09 release, and they've always dabbled in truly lethal handling cars in the Cobra Rs.

livedeliberatelychic1 > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:46

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The last pic you put up is gorgeous and single-handedly made me 5000 times more excited to go car shopping soon! :)

Reigntastic > Victorious Secret 12/03/2013 at 18:47

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I absolutely love the Boss 302. It's really a shame that they're ~$40,000 dollar cars still, but it shows what can happen when the right parts come together. Mustangs need to go on a diet.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Pessimippopotamus 12/03/2013 at 18:48

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At least someone caught it. Too late to edit it now.

Reigntastic > livedeliberatelychic1 12/03/2013 at 18:48

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Since I'm catching flak for the DB9 shop, have a proper EVOS rendering.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:49

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My understanding is they can't do much about that because of crash standards. But I would like to see a belt line about 2" lower.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:50

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The more I see it, the more I like it.

oldirtybootz > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 18:54

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I'll reserve final judgement for real photos, not distorted pics of a magazine.

My initial reaction though? It's more or less what we saw from the most recent renders. Overall I like it quite a bit, but the rear end looks off. I don't like the angles of the rear from the sids profile and from straight on it looks like it's missing something.

I HATED the S197 when it debuted because I was in love with SN-95s at the time. Now the S197 is among my favorite Mustangs, especially the 05-09.

I'm very pissed that it leaked though. I wanted to first see it when it was officially revealed.

Reigntastic > Paul, Man of Mustangs 12/03/2013 at 19:00

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Yeah, I figured it was for side impact ratings as well.

dogisbadob > Pessimippopotamus 12/03/2013 at 19:04

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Fair enough, but they really tried to push how "international" it was going to be, and besides, a V8 in a small car is what the pony/muscle car idea is all about, right? If they could get the car under 3000 lb with that V8 and keep the price reasonable, they'd end up with well under 10 lb/hp for 35k!

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 19:17

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I'm waiting to pass judgment until I see one in the flesh. Something about the Autoweek pictures just don't feel right as far as proportioning goes.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 19:31

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I have literally the same opinion as you, on everything.

Supreme Kiwi Zorro > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 19:37

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The 2015 Mustang looks so much better than the current generation Mustang.

Reigntastic > Supreme Kiwi Zorro 12/03/2013 at 19:40

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Hahaha. Hello Kiwi.

Supreme Kiwi Zorro > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 19:41

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What's so funny?

Reigntastic > Supreme Kiwi Zorro 12/03/2013 at 19:43

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I'm just used to your contrarian opinions. You're an oppo jimmy rustler extraordinaire.

bobkustofawitshz > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 19:57

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You know, I don't really like it. As a Mustang owner and a big fan, it's not everything I hoped it would be. Something just seems... off. Like there's a small sports car tucked in there and it's wearing a fat suit. It seems to have the same gaping maw and bumped up hood as most other cars destined for European markets, due to their ridiculous pedestrian safety regulations . And the beltline is TOO DAMN HIGH. I will say that the rear end looks great. But overall, it's kind of meh IMHO. Hopefully that will change when I see it in real life. But I'll still be picking up a 2011-12 5.0 in the spring.
I was hoping for something closer to this -

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Pessimippopotamus > dogisbadob 12/03/2013 at 20:03

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I think the whole "international" thing is more symbolic than anything, especially with the One Ford directive they've been trying to push. There were talks of Europe-specific Capri coupe for the longest time, but low sales projections means they don't get their own car. At least they get something. The primary market is in the US, and they're not going to stray too far from that, but hey, the next one gets 200lbs off, which is huge considering all the modern trappings cars come with these days.

Also sub-3,000lbs V8 sports car? What are you smoking? Who makes and sells such a car? That's a Ferrari you're describing, not a Mustang!

Supreme Kiwi Zorro > Reigntastic 12/03/2013 at 20:07

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Nope. Those days have been over for a while now. I like certain Fords, primarily concept cars, obscure cars, and race cars.

dogisbadob > Pessimippopotamus 12/03/2013 at 20:19

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I really like the 70s Capri! (and the 90s one, too) Yeah I totally wish the Mustang was more like that. In fact, I think the Capri should've replaced the Mustang when it first came out (69 in Europe, finally came over here in 71, and the 69-78 Mustangs weren't their most awesome years)

The FRS and BRZ are about 2600 lb. A few hundred more pounds with a bigger engine like a V8 would take it to like 3000 lb.

Also, the outgoing Mustang is about 3800 lb with its 400-something hp V8, which is under 10 lb/hp for under 35k.

I don't think any of the hardcore Mustang people would complain about an FRS-sized Mustang as long as a V8 is available.

Yeah I know only Ferrari makes 3000-lb V8's right now, but I was trying to illustrate how possible it might actually be.

Pessimippopotamus > dogisbadob 12/03/2013 at 21:05

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There were some aftermarket tuners who fiddled around with Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice AKA Opel GT and stuck a V8 in there, but I'm pretty sure car manufacturers don't want to be responsible for such an insurance liability.

I'm actually certain hardcore Mustang people would complain about a Toybaru-sized Mustang. A huge portion of Mustang owners (pretty much all V6 Mustang owners and many GT owners) use it as their daily driver, and they would probably hate to lose rear seating (that can fit adults) and spacious trunk. They don't want an FRS. They want a Mustang. Hell, some people want a Mustang over a Corvette, and pay Corvette price for a Mustang! But hey, I'm all for Ford making a lightweight sport coupe. It just won't be a Mustang.

JohnPlayerSpecial > Textured Soy Protein 12/03/2013 at 21:18

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DBS, actually.

Textured Soy Protein > JohnPlayerSpecial 12/03/2013 at 21:22

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Oh hey, yeah my bad. The pic I posted came up on a google image search for DB9 but it's a DBS.

dogisbadob > Pessimippopotamus 12/03/2013 at 21:47

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People actually use the back seat in a Mustang? Is that actually possible? Will it baby? :p

StoneCold > Reigntastic 12/04/2013 at 02:02

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I know they had body alignment issues in the 60's, but this is ridiculous

XD

Redd, the RX-7 that could > Reigntastic 12/04/2013 at 02:13

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Mustang. The car that has more to offer than the Camaro in every way, including blindspots.

Redd, the RX-7 that could > Reigntastic 12/04/2013 at 02:15

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They forgot to style the rear. It's that simple. Also, they accidentally put 1.5 times too much rear overhang. That's pretty much all that ruined it.

livedeliberatelychic1 > Reigntastic 12/04/2013 at 14:11

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Ooh, very nice! I'm not sure how to feel about the back, but the front is breathtaking!

Reigntastic > Redd, the RX-7 that could 12/04/2013 at 15:04

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I have to agree on both those points, looks too similar to the last generation.

Redd, the RX-7 that could > Reigntastic 12/05/2013 at 01:53

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Having seen the official pics, nevermind what I said before, well done Ford!