Oppo Question

"Joe_Limon" (Joe_Limon) 11/24/2013 at 20:40 • Filed to: None

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What is the best jalopworthy eco vehicle? I expect at least one person to answer vw tdi wagon, and one person to answer miata... But what other vehicles out there are worth mentioning? Bonus points for being "greener" then a prius.

Personally, I want to save an old CRX, spend wayyyy too much money on it and end up swapping in a modern 2.0 Honda engine, kept to stock power/couple fuel economy friendly mods like intake/exhaust. And make the rest Singer level of attention to detail

Squid > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:42

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Here you go, 3 cylinders of fury.

Desu-San-Desu > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:42

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78 miles to the motherfucking gallon, bitches.

XJDano > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:43

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Chevy metro

nobody > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:43

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Model S

i8

XL1

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Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:43

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Koenisegg CCX?

Want more power?
put an Ethanol!

Or a Manual, brown, diesel, stickshift, mercedes wagon.

Tom McParland > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:44

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Since the 918 was already taken, I'll go with Tesla Model S.

Milky > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:44

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The VW EcoRacer … 1.5l turbo diesel. "The EcoRacer accelerates from 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 6.3 seconds. The top speed is 230 km/h (143 mph). The average fuel consumption is 3.4 liters per 100 km (70 miles per gallon )."

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:45

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A Nash Metro with a BMW motorcycle four swap.

scoob > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:45

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A Gulf livery bicycle.

Joe_Limon > scoob 11/24/2013 at 20:48

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That is pretty sexy, sadly, my ass has gone mushy and long bike rides cause me to go bowlegged for days.

davedave1111 > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:49

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What's most enviro-friendly really depends what you want to do with it. Generally, though, the best are smallish, slowish diesel hatchbacks - basically, the most common cars in Europe. There are dozens of models available with better fuel economy than a Prius.

If you do a lot of city miles and very little out-of-town driving, you're better off with a small petrol-engined car instead of a diesel. If you do enough motorway miles, the weight becomes less of an issue and aerodynamics more, so the small hatchback shape loses out to cars styled more like saloons/sedans.

But the most eco-friendly, most Jalop vehicle is a ute with a wood gasifier in the back.

Joe_Limon > Squid 11/24/2013 at 20:49

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I cannot see the picture :(

Sn210 > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:50

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I think a lot of us like the first hen Insight a lot. I think it's the rear wheel skirts. I'd get one over a Prius.

Nibby > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:51

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Joe_Limon > Desu-San-Desu 11/24/2013 at 20:51

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:( I am far too poor to drive the ultimate snob mobile.
-Porsche check
-Eco friendly check
-Exotic check

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:51

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Volkswagen XK1

If you're going to go green, you might as well do it in a carbon fiber diesel hybrid space ship for the road: it gets 261MPG and looks awesome doing it.
2nd place-Porsche 918

Joe_Limon > davedave1111 11/24/2013 at 20:53

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Yep, would totally drive that. Hide the mini keg under the cover.

6cyl > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:53

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I am guessing this. Better than prius fuel. 3 cylinder motors are naturally balanced like inline 6's and v12's. Also one of the most aero dynamic cars ever produced. And add lightness at less that 1,900lbs.

Joe_Limon > Nibby 11/24/2013 at 20:55

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The only emissions are smiles. I can never remember being small enough to fit in one of these, my memory only goes back far enough to when I wish I could fit in one.

GhostZ > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:56

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Theoretically? Any car that uses as little oil as possible, made primarily of Iron, with as little steel as possible with no aluminum or plastic. Basically, an inline-four Jeep CJ. That would be the best car for the environment, hands-down.

Although, even more eco-friendly, would be an older car that doesn't use a battery or alternator/generator, but was crank-started. So if you get a CJ-5 and convert it to a hand-crank start, ditch the batteries and electronics, you'll have the best eco-mobile.

No matter what other car you pick, manufacturing emissions + long-term plastics recycling damage + battery packs + wiring will certainly override any (relatively small) decrease in emissions or mpg.

desertdog5051 > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:56

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This is greener than a Pryus.

GhostZ > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 11/24/2013 at 20:57

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Arguably, since carbon fiber biodegrades better than aluminum, a CCX is way better for the environment than a Prius.

Joe_Limon > 6cyl 11/24/2013 at 20:57

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Well that is certainly better then a smart! Although, an old chevette would have been awesome.

davedave1111 > 6cyl 11/24/2013 at 20:58

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What's with all the Insight love lately? It's barely better than a Prius, apart from not having sold enough to have a huge holier-than-thou fan club - and spats. OK, and it was small and light, like an economy car should be. But other than that?

Desu-San-Desu > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 20:58

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1990-1994 Hyundai Excel 3DR. I had the one with the 1.6L 4-banger and the 5-speed manual. Not only was it an absolute hoot to hoon, but it averaged about 45mpg combined and was incredibly easy to park as well as being surprisingly roomy.

It was also nigh-upon-unkillable, mechanically.

Fuck I miss that car...

Squid > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 21:00

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It was a Geo Metro. . .

Squid > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 21:00

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Damn Kinja!!!!!!!

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > GhostZ 11/24/2013 at 21:02

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Yep, and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better to look at.

Joe_Limon > Squid 11/24/2013 at 21:06

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Once upon a time I dismembered a geo metro engine, and never put it back together muahahaha

Squid > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 21:09

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The world thanks you! My great Aunt had a nice pristine 67 Camaro that really only saw duty driving to the store once a week, I can't remember what trim it was but I know it got traded in for a 1992 Geo Metro. . . That was sad, I was only 7 so I couldn't do anything about it. It was sad. . .

6cyl > davedave1111 11/24/2013 at 21:10

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It came with a manual, is lighter, has a 3 cylinder, is not made by toyota, is a coupe, how much do you need here?

davedave1111 > 6cyl 11/24/2013 at 21:11

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OK, now compare it to anything that's not a Prius...

6cyl > davedave1111 11/24/2013 at 21:15

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Ok it weighs less than a Miata*, it has 2 doors like a Miata*, it has a manual transmission like a Miata*, it get better fuel economy than a Miata*,

*You can replace Miata with: e30, Mustang, Corvette

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > desertdog5051 11/24/2013 at 21:36

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Krieger (@FSKrieger22) > Joe_Limon 11/24/2013 at 23:43

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Since the Tesla Model S, i8, and 918 are taken, how about this, the Audi R8 e-tron?

Or the SLS AMG Electric Drive? It is the most powerful SLS after all...

Or even a Tesla Roadster (even if the range takes a serious hit with hooning)?

Supreme Kiwi Zorro > Joe_Limon 11/25/2013 at 02:58

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I don't know why some people nominated supercars for a question about "jalopy eco car". My realistic nomination would be Honda Civic VX from the 90's. It has 5l/100km average. It's not as "green" as a Prius, but it's cheaper to own.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Joe_Limon 11/25/2013 at 02:59

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Maybe not the most eco-friendly, but hear me out. My candidate is the Jaguar XJS V12.

The environmental cost of producing a vehicle is enormous. Depending on the distance a vehicle travels, and its economy, it may even outweigh the total fuel cost of the vehicle itself.

The trouble with cars like the XJS, especially the V12 ones, is that people don't usually manage to take them very far. Thus, you don't get much distance for that initial investment of resources. However, the further you take it, the more efficient it gets.

There will, of course, be a crossover where the terrible fuel efficiency of the V12 will outweigh the cost of production relative to a new, more fuel efficient vehicle. However, I'd be willing to bet that that's well past 200,ooo miles.

PhiLOL (slowcarSLOW-MPGlol) > Joe_Limon 11/27/2013 at 14:05

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Since most of you refuse to take this seriously...

And since I love red cars, here's an atypical choice:

The 1999-2000 Ford ZX2 S/R. It had some neat performance parts that improved its already peppy handling and responsive, torquey powerplant. You can sub $5k examples all day. I drove a base model for 6 years and knew of numerous owners getting 40+ mpg and low 15s in the quarter mile. Not bad.

iDavidW > Krieger (@FSKrieger22) 11/27/2013 at 19:04

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Electro-R8 for me, please! :D