How much sense does this make?

"Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna" (lukielauxd) 11/24/2013 at 17:18 • Filed to: None

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So my dad has this challenge for me that if I can ever come up with a justifiable argument to get a car in college (budget around $30,000 since he doesn't expect me to be successful) and like the stereotypical cars Sienna, Odyssey (I'm out of state, so utility over cool-ness for now) are already on the possible list for when my second year of college comes around and we might actually get another car for me. But with the article that was just posted onto the front page, a 13 year old Bentley is also around the price range but I can't think of a reason to get it other than the fact it's a Bentley and it's kind of ridiculous LOL

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:21

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Maintenance costs will cost more than your education most likely

xxxxxx > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:21

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WRX hatch, Focus ST, the likes

PS9 > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:21

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So...your dad's gonna buy you a $30k car if you win an argument with him? And it could end up being this thing???

Life. Is. So. Fucking. UNFAIR

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > xxxxxx 11/24/2013 at 17:22

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Can't drive Stick :D

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:22

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I wish my dad could buy me a car with a budget around $30,000, I'd be getting a freakin' pristine s2000.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:22

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You should totally get that... Eating is overrated you know.

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > PS9 11/24/2013 at 17:24

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My dad would disown me before there would ever be any possibility that I'd get this. HAHAH. And he says the budget is $30k because that's only if I get straight As and that 30k will probably be going towards my graduation car present which would be pushed up 2 years if I get 4 semesters of straight As.

EDIT: And it's not more winning an argument but more like a formal proposal for why this purchase makes sense and is justified whether it be something that'll be sold after I go back studying in-state or it'll be kept for 10 years. This car wouldn't make sense in any scenario.

stuttgartobsessed > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:26

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You'll pay more than that in service and maintenance charges in the first year. But you should do it!

scoob > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:26

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Learn how and have more fun?

scoob > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:28

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I went on Craigslist with an imaginary budget of $30K and found this :

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:28

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Learning isn't that tough though, and it using a manual really isn't that difficult. I can barley walk and chew gum at the same time, but I can still shift well. Also, If you learn, it makes you cool

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > scoob 11/24/2013 at 17:28

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My dad says stick shift just means higher insurance and he watched me completely fail at shifting my TLs automatic manually, so I don't think that's happening any time soon.

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > scoob 11/24/2013 at 17:29

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Like this Bentley is just cause I wanted to see if I can fit a decent Bentley under that budget, but really, if I was given $30,000, I'd buy an XLE Sienna or a Hybrid Camry. HAHAHAH.

rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:33

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I work with a guy with a variant on this car. You could easily run up $15-20k/year on maintenance costs alone even assuming nothing serious breaks.

Remember that the maintenance costs on vehicles depends on the original cost of the car, not how much you can buy one for now after depreciation.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:33

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It's an awesome car, but maintenance is going to cost an arm, a leg and probably your favorite kidney. Also, it's a huge vehicle, and driving around a land yacht in college is probably going to develop scratches, either from bad drivers or angry people with keys. Plus, I doubt that interior would be spill/bodily fluid resistant

McChiken116 - Patrick H. > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:33

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FRS or BRZ, done

davedave1111 > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:33

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You don't need your dad's permission to learn something. Go and learn it by yourself.

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S 11/24/2013 at 17:34

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Yeah, I'm probably going to end up getting a Camry then -_-

Milky > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:35

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I'm not going to completely hate because my mom bought the car I'm currently driving (granted with a 10k price cap). But why would you be looking at minivans because you're out of state? You don't need that much space … unless I missed something.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:36

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You can call me stupid but..
I always want an arnage. I would gladly to sold my CLS for that.

In my country used CLS550 could fetch somewhere arround 80k. The bentley tough, 160-200k.

But i allowed to import that, altough maybe i'll end up paying 90k for that . Tax in here is stupid :(

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > Milky 11/24/2013 at 17:38

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I have no idea why I picked those two so far, but it's because I just love minivans for some reason. They're so roomy and useful and I can put a ton of stuff in them. A used Subaru Outback was on the final list on my final attempt to get a car in my first year but that never happened. There's a Fiat 500 on campus that's out of state and I don't even understand that.

Agrajag > PS9 11/24/2013 at 17:40

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Sometimes I feel we need different versions of OPPO based on income, haha.

"One day I hope to join Tier 1 OPPO."

Agrajag > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:41

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Concur with antoni908. Is your Dad just going to give you a lump of money or is he going to buy it? If he gives you the money buy something cheaper and keep monies.

PatBateman > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:45

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Your winning argument:

While it would be nice if every resource required for success in college were within walking distance, it's not reality. Not even close. Public transportation (if it's available around town) is also generally not a viable option for a lifestyle dependent on tight class schedules, study sessions, and other time sensitive events.

Having a vehicle while in college is a way to increase fruitful activities and, at the same time, stay on task with all of the other numerous commitments that top students keep. Which is more time effective: spending an hour OR MORE waiting on a ride or for a bus to get to and from an off-campus study group/meeting with an alum mentor/work at a part time internship, or spending a quick 10-15 minutes one way driving your own car and not worrying about being late to class?

Independent travel arrangements, while technically optional for anyone, is mandatory for anyone looking to get ahead and keep a frantic schedule. Unless you are going to go to school someplace with a severe lack of parking and world class subway system (NYC), there is only upside in having a vehicle.

I rest my case, Your Honor.

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > Agrajag 11/24/2013 at 17:46

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He'll probably buy it. But honestly, I might just end up asking my parents for a hand-me-down from what we drive now, which then will either be a 14 year old GX or a 10 year old LS. My dad's dream car is a 911 and he's helping me pay for college right now so any money I can save from wanting a car and money I get from my first job should help him get his dream car first.

Dunnik > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 11/24/2013 at 17:46

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Not only that, but if you roll up to your Basket Weaving 101 course in a Bentley, people will assume you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. "Dude," they'd say, "chauffeur have the day off?"

Your fellow students may also target the car for reasons of class warfare, "Eat the rich!" they'd scream, as they key your car, spit on the door handles, and let the air of your tires.

Frat initiates may also target your car, assuming that its the Chancellor's, or the Dean's, or some other Figure of Authority. You'd come back to your car finding it wrapped in toilet paper, or spray painted with MAN LOVE RULES OK .

Milky > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:47

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I guess we just have different desires of what we want to drive.

Milky > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:47

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I guess we just have different desires of what we want to drive.

Agrajag > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 17:49

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That is a very cool thing to do.

Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna > Dunnik 11/24/2013 at 17:50

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There's actually a regular flow of A7s, 7-series, X6s, C7 Corvettes and I've even seen a 458 Italia on campus that all belong to students. And I'm in the middle of goddamn Oklahoma.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > scoob 11/24/2013 at 18:01

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You might consider this : It's less practical, more likely to kill you, probably less reliable, and far more fun to drive

A 2002 Porsche 911 cabriolet with 63,000 miles

scoob > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 11/24/2013 at 18:02

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Oh haha there's no way I'd throw myself into either of these, or even the Bentley. I'd rather get a used WRX/STi. Actually there are tons of options! Like 15 Miatas.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Milky 11/24/2013 at 18:03

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I drive her all day long...

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 18:11

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If you really want to have some fun, go look up a Ferrari 400. V-12 up front, room for 4, and, you might even be able to sell the investment potential!

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > scoob 11/24/2013 at 18:13

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Are you sure you wouldn't want one of these ? It's only almost a certain deathtrap

Only 7,645 miles

Milky > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 11/24/2013 at 18:14

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scoob > 71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors 11/24/2013 at 18:15

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15 Miatas is always the answer.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > scoob 11/24/2013 at 18:17

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That's a bold statement!

Clutchman83 > Agrajag 11/24/2013 at 18:17

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Yeah seriously! My Dad bought me a $2000 Chevy S10 when I turned 16 and told me I had to pay him back for it if I wanted to keep it after high school. $30k!? No offense kid but fuck you!

Straight A's in college got me a chintzy bike rack and groceries once a quarter...

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 18:21

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No thinking just do it. Because luxury race car, because TT pushrod V8, because 645 lb. ft. of torque, because 170 mph top speed, and because those are some of the prettiest things man kind has ever made. I have wanted one since always. Do it so I can live vicariously through you.

Agrajag > Milky 11/24/2013 at 18:22

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Hey! Hey you! Yeah, over here. Come on in. *hatch closes

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Dunnik 11/24/2013 at 18:23

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That's best part, of course. Let all the kids who just spent 27k on their Civic or Corolla cry in the corner while this thundering, hand-built symbol of human accomplishment and craftsmanship browbeats the entire parking lot into submission.

JSchultzie > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/24/2013 at 18:36

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I would very gladly take a hand me down to get a 911 in the family.

Milky > Agrajag 11/24/2013 at 18:56

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Ha, I've never seen that face before. It doesn't look too inviting.

911e46z06 > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/25/2013 at 04:56

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For a college car, hell to the no. It would be so incredibly awesome, but it's impossible to justify the maintenance costs, which will be nothing short of catastrophic. Get something you will be able to afford to run for a couple years once you graduate and that stream of sweet, sweet free money goes away.

Put the Arnage on the back burner and pick one up in ten years if you have a job that can support it.

In the meantime, don't get a minivan dude. With a car you can have fun on the street, with a truck you can have fun off road, with a minivan you can do neither. Especially if you have 30 grand to play with, get something you'll enjoy. I was an out-of-stater, and my e39 handled everything no problem. Get something you can take to car shows, or the drag strip, or whatever you have going on around you, and have some fun with. You'll be surprised how much crap you can fit in a sedan.

brakesnow > Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna 11/25/2013 at 13:34

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Dude, 30k to blow, "utility over cool-ness for now" and you're going with a Bentley??

Hellll naw.

Pick up this goddamn V8 manual all wheel drive wagon for 23k, spend the rest on a JHM supercharger, and you'll thank yourself many many MANY times over.

/rant over.