Question for my fellow E36 owners

"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko)
11/21/2013 at 20:23 • Filed to: e36, help

What do I do to fix the slop in my shifter? M3 Wagon above for your time. Edit never mind, I derped and forgot that I had the 101 projects book.

DISCUSSION (27)

EL_ULY > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:26

5th gear lean?

Goodspeed23 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:27

Have you tried changing the tranny fluid?

http://www.bavauto.com/fland.asp?part…

Ian Duer (320b) > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:28

Haven't looked into this in a while but Pelican used to have a "refresh kit"

DasWauto > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:29

Shifter bushings. Pelican parts will probably have a kit. Not a bad time to upgrade, Turner Motorsport is also good for upgrade kits.

davedave1111 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:29

Google replacing the gear linkage and shifter bushings.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Goodspeed23
11/21/2013 at 20:34

Yes

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > EL_ULY
11/21/2013 at 20:35

Plus 1st gear can move side to side like neutral on most cars

Goodspeed23 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:36

Well then the extent of my mechanical help and knowledge has been exhausted. Godspeed.

daender > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:36

Buy a E46/E30 M3.

Though seriously, it's gotta be bushings.

EL_ULY > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:40

I think i got a kit from pelican parts with the pins, bushings detent. I was doing the clutch on my 3 liter heater and since the trans was out I went ahead and did those as well. 5th had to be pressed in I believe, also reverse. Trans has to come down buddy

EL_ULY > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 20:48

Kinja'd!!!

odd mirrors for an M3?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > EL_ULY
11/21/2013 at 20:55

I just looked in the book, I could do it with the driveline in place, but doing this job in my driveway on my ramps ain't happening.

153624 - Straight Six > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 21:00

Just fixed mine. Pelican sells a kit for around $110- however a bunch of the expensive stuff they sell you is unnecessary. I paid around $60 for what I needed and another $90+25 for an SSK and shift carrier bushings from understeer since that included a few things I needed.

Pretty satisfied with it but you'll have to drop the trans. I did it while putting in a new clutch, though.

I didn't have any gear lean but shifting gears felt less like shifting and more like arm wrestling a burly Russian. Remember to get the $6 sponge thing from the dealer- I think that's the part that made the biggest difference for me.

153624 - Straight Six > EL_ULY
11/21/2013 at 21:03

I don't think BMW made E36 M-wagons. Seems to me it might be an S5X swapped car with M trim bits.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > 153624 - Straight Six
11/21/2013 at 21:09

I don't have the facilities to do the work, but you don't have to drop the trans or drive shaft. It's just much more difficult to get to. I think I'm just going to live with it.

EL_ULY > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 21:10

1-4 but 5th and reverse are going to be tight. I think they were on the right side and i remember having to press them in, i did it forever ago though so not positive. Now that im home, I can post some pics of my baby. 2011 potato pics :]

Kinja'd!!!

Sold the M3, this is my current e36 aka "when the Wagon, Merc, and truck dont have gas use this pos)

Kinja'd!!!

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > EL_ULY
11/21/2013 at 21:12

Much less rusty than mine. Very nice.

EL_ULY > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 21:14

Thanx :]

Straightsix9904 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 21:38

I think this is the the first e36 wagon I've ever really noticed. I have only searched for E30 Wagons and 5 series wagons.

153624 - Straight Six > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 21:55

No, not for all the bushings. But to be honest it might be easier and quicker to drop it- but by no means am I saying it's not time consuming either way.

If you do ever have to drop the trans though, I'd say it's more than worth it to refresh the shifter. Really tightened up the feel of my car.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > 153624 - Straight Six
11/21/2013 at 21:58

Yeah, but I'm at the well I only paid $1,600 point now, so if the clutch goes or the tranny refuses to get into gear, I'll pay to get the job done, until then, I can live with it.

ddavidn > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/21/2013 at 23:42

If you're not going to use that 101 projects book, I'm taking it!

...NOT FOR MY COOLING SYSTEM.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > ddavidn
11/22/2013 at 07:48

I'm using it...

SOON...

rabidpenguin > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/22/2013 at 12:36

You don't have to drop the trans to get to all the bushing, but you will have to remove the trans mounts and tilt the motor to get to the ones on top of the transmission. The other ones are pretty easy and may make a big difference if you can jack up the car. Parts 7 and 10 may you should be able to change pretty easy. 2, 4 and 12 would be the tougher ones where you would need to start dissasembling things.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.…

153624 - Straight Six > rabidpenguin
11/22/2013 at 14:49

Incidentally, pretty much the only ones I replaced are 2, 4, and 12.

rabidpenguin > 153624 - Straight Six
11/22/2013 at 15:31

Really? 2 is especially difficult because of that "bitch" of a clip that holds it in. Rouge Engineering makes upgraded bushings for all of that. If you do the others I think you will see a big improvement. Those little plastic washer/bushings are cheap and easy to get to.

153624 - Straight Six > rabidpenguin
11/23/2013 at 12:56

Yeah I had my trans down so I had easy enough access to that goddamn clip. I'd bought UUC delrin carrier bushings and they'd come with a replacement clip, so I just snapped the one on the car. To be honest I'm not sure how much of an improvement they made, though.

The bit the sponge fits into was free to wobble left and right. When I took it apart there was no trace of the sponge at all- terrible design. With the new sponge the wobble was pretty much completely eliminated.

But everyone's car has seen different circumstances. I only fixed the bushings that seemed bad on my car. Someone else's may be completely different.