Honda 50R Project

"Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif" (lumpy44)
11/02/2013 at 20:21 • Filed to: Two wheels good

I will be doing a frame up rebuild on my bike from when I was 7 years old. Right now the motor will not start and I can't find neutral so I assume the clutch may be buggered too. I hope parts aren't too much for the old girl. It is a 1982 50R with Automatic Clutch system.

Good project names anyone?

DISCUSSION (23)

Reigntastic > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:26

Is it a half step neutral? What's the gearbox layout?

Cajun Ginger > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:30

Kinja'd!!!

It's the baby version of my bike!

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Reigntastic
11/02/2013 at 20:31

Neutral is all the way down and then half up, I can find it but it takes a few tries. From neutral it is down into first and then up into second, third, fourth if I do remember correctly.

Cajun Ginger > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:33

If it's geared like my nighthawk 1st is all down and then neutral is half up from there.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Cajun Ginger
11/02/2013 at 20:35

I think it would be the same as my bike its the half up that is causing the issue. If I'm in a quiet place I can listen to it click into neutral sometimes but the main issue is getting it running.

Reigntastic > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:36

Yeah, that'd be a standard layout then. It's not abnormal to have a difficult neutral, just because it's a lot better than being able to accidentally hit neutral without that being the intent. Exactly like my Kawi's layout, but less a few gears.

desertdog5051 > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:39

Get it running first. The carb is the most likely culprit. Flush the tank. Check the points for gap and wear. Clean or replace as needed. Should be a 12V model. Parts for those are readily available. I bought a new carb for my Passport online for $40?. Bulletproof motors on all those small Honda bikes. Clutch should free up once it is running. If not, there are online manuals available for them. Happy Hondaing.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Reigntastic
11/02/2013 at 20:40

Ya, either way I will be opening it up and cleaning it out to figure it out.

Reigntastic > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:44

I wish I still had a motorcycle, even if it was pint sized. Keep us updated on the build!

Cajun Ginger > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:44

I'm sorry. I have no idea. Only recently has my bike had anything go wrong.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > desertdog5051
11/02/2013 at 20:46

The tank in the picture is a new(er) one I found on Kijiji for 20 bucks. The old one rusted out so I have had the carb off cleaning the rust out. I broke a plastic spacer with o-rings when I took the carb off so I need to find one of those first of all.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Cajun Ginger
11/02/2013 at 20:46

Hope you can get 'er fixed. Thanks for the help.

Cajun Ginger > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 20:48

Possibly clutch cylinder on my bike. How long has it sat without running?

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Cajun Ginger
11/02/2013 at 20:51

Well I rode it when I was 7, then I sold it to a family friend for his kids, and about 5 years ago I asked if he still had it. He said it was sitting in his shed and I could have it. No idea when he used it last. That picture of it is after I spent 2 hours cleaning it up. So it may not have ran in a decade.

BJ > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 21:34

My neighbours had two of these when I was young, and they sometimes let me ride. What a blast! I even managed to do a header into a tree once.

Maybe there were different versions, but wasn't this transmission a simple 3-up (neutral at the bottom)?

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > BJ
11/02/2013 at 21:37

No this one is one down and three up, neutral is a half click up from the bottom. I wish it was as simple as that.

BJ > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 21:39

I guess I hit that tree harder than I remember... :(

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > BJ
11/02/2013 at 21:42

Go make that tree into a roll of toilet paper to teach it a lesson.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 21:51

http://www.champsclock.com/50cc.htm

BeaterGT > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 22:51

My friend had an early 80s Z50 and it was 3 up. Good luck getting her going! I wish I could remember all the original Honda parts sites we used.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > BeaterGT
11/02/2013 at 22:54

I found the parts I need on Ebay. Would like to find some tires too. Thinking chrome for the wheels, over the top, ya I know.

BeaterGT > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif
11/02/2013 at 22:56

I've seen crazier builds. Custom swingarms and the lot. I think some chrome would look great

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > BeaterGT
11/02/2013 at 22:58

Its a while down the road from now. I really need a heated garage.