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"Not a Sunburst Miata" (moezsayani)
10/22/2013 at 14:27 • Filed to: None

Can I replace the keyed ignition in my car with something like this? I have a 2012 Civic

DISCUSSION (14)

CalzoneGolem > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:28

Yes, yes you can.

CAR_IS_MI > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:29

You "CAN" do anything with the right amount of knowledge, skill, time, and money. But its a Civic, not a race car, don't be that guy.

Jeep until it MHz > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:30

I would suggest a keyed version and less carbon fiber, unless you want to take the battery every where you go.

Casper > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:30

Yes? That's the point of such a system. Of course, if you replace the keyed ignition, anyone who can open your door can drive off with the car.

MonkeePuzzle > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:30

no! that's for racing use only!!!!

s2000 starter button is a common cross over into Civics, might be worth a google

Not a Sunburst Miata > CAR_IS_MI
10/22/2013 at 14:37

Haha I always wanted a car with a push button start.

CAR_IS_MI > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:41

Push button vs. non locking ignition are different things.

Push button is easy, You need a basic relay and the push button, and you need to understand the wires on the ignition. You will still need to insert the key to unlock the steering column and turn on the accessories, and it can be wired for key start or button start, or button start only.

Not a Sunburst Miata > CAR_IS_MI
10/22/2013 at 14:46

So i would still have to put the key in to unlock the steering column? Well then putting an aftermarket push button starter in is pointless then...

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:46

In an older car, perhaps. In something that new, though, you'd probably need a degree in electrical engineering to do it. I'd imagine the ECU would need retuning or something in order to "accept" the new input.

CAR_IS_MI > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 14:52

There are kits that can eliminate this issue, but $$$$, rather expensive for what you actually get out of it.

Basically to avoid using a key, you would need a transponder remote that you can keep on you, with a receiver in the car, this receiver would not allow the push button to operate without receiving the signal from the transponder. You would also need a more complex set of electronics to monitor the actuation of the brake pedal to ensure the brake is pressed for engine starting (for safety reasons), as well as an actuator to lock and unlock the steering column.

So basically a whole lot of work and $ so that you can jump in and press "start"

eovnu87435ds > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 15:35

look up what it takes to get a remote starter from Viper or DEI installed in your car. many of them have additional lines for other car accessories. Even if you don't use the starter kit for a remotely starting your car, it will probably be the easiest and most cost effective once installed, especially because newer cars have everything through CANbus and not just the good ol' relays of yesteryear.

I could feasibly do this in about 20 minutes since I have a remote starter

SteyrTMP > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 16:40

Sure. I have a S2000 start button in my Seven. The big challenge will be how realistic do you want it? I have an on/off key, not accessory/on/start key. Turning my key on does nothing other than turn on the ECU. You can hear the fuel pump turn on, and that's about it.

Most start button conversions in cars (I was going to do one in my Mini before it died) don't address that, which makes it pointless to me.

TheDon > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/22/2013 at 21:13

Rice Rice Baby.....

TrekHuis > Not a Sunburst Miata
10/23/2013 at 02:50

Have fun: