"MtrRider Just Wants Doritos" (MtrRider)
10/19/2013 at 01:56 • Filed to: None
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"MtrRider Just Wants Doritos" (MtrRider)
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Some people simply don't understand us. When many people hear the term car guy, they have preconceived notions of hot rodders and racers, but have no idea the depth of cars.
YSI-what can brown do for you
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 02:00 |
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I took my dad to a race, and then I think he understood.
Sarah Lally Brown
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 02:14 |
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For me it took the right car. I never gave two figs about driving until I got behind the wheel of a Porsche six months ago. Now I find myself reading Jalopnik while my kids nap in the back seat of my mom-car, and thinking of when I can get to the track again. I love taking friends out in my not-mom car in the hopes of passing down that aha! moment.
webmonkees
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 02:21 |
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Why not..
Johnny Oppo's Defensive Driving Caravan
Mall parking lot Sunday 1-8pm to be taught some proper driving.
Coming to your town.
Sponsored by Insurance Companies That Get It
A controlled powerslide by your local redneck is better than an uncontrolled one.
orcim
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 02:33 |
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I think gun and knife owner's have the same type of problem, actually. It's very difficult to express, and if you leave the explanation blank, the other person will *fill the story in* for you, from their perspective, of course. Not Good.
There was a Japanese master carpenter in Berkeley 25 years ago named Makoto Imai. He cut and built some Japanese jointed timber frame houses for one of my vendors and taught my joinery teacher. He gave a talk about "The Soul of a Tool". In short, he completely locked the value of the tools he used for his trade to the quality of life and its continuation. In the passionate auto lover, there's a link there like that link. I can feel it, but I don't let myself live it (other priorities.) I wonder if there's a pony in there for explaining what you're feeling.
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> orcim
10/19/2013 at 02:54 |
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Gun and knife owners the the exact same problem. Either you "get it" or you think that, deep down, they like killing people.
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MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
> Sarah Lally Brown
10/19/2013 at 02:55 |
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What Porsche and why did you like it?
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orcim
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 03:07 |
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That's the "story fill in" problem. You really can't let them do that if someone asks you the question of "why you like
Back when in rural Wisconsin, keeping that vehicle going was a given. Having a nice vehicle for going out was a given. No one asked "why?" because it was a ridiculous question. A different time.
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> orcim
10/19/2013 at 03:12 |
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I agree, but don't know what to say in the 3 seconds before they become bored with the topic of cars and move on. That's the question.
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orcim
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 03:30 |
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3 seconds?! Damn the internet. That's the time the Back button gets hit on a website if it isn't what the person is exactly looking for. *Sigh*
This is something of an important question, and is at the basis of every ethical marketing and business communication: what makes sense to the hearer, but also is true to the speaker? With no answers, I'd probably get 4-5 of my friends around a table with snacks and beers, with the express purpose of trying out stuff on each other that you (and maybe they) could use. Those 4-5 people have to be into wanting to do that though, otherwise it won't work. You become the facilitator. Like a brain storm session is all. But fun. Or, completely making stuff up with no reference (Male Answer Syndrome - sorry):
"I keep my skills up with cars because they are central to nearly everyone's life that I see. I just like to be helpful if there's problems." (Service oriented, may not work.)
"Yeah, I like cars. Their design and implementation seems to track our society's growth, so I just use them as a metaphor." (Deep, but probably not useful.)
"It's my upbringing. We always had crappy cars, trying to keep them going, etc. Now, I've got something reliable because I take care of it, and it's fun to drive. After all, what's the point if you aren't finding the Maximum Entertainment Value in something? I just do it with cars." (May get a little out there.)
"What the fuck is the matter with you? Can't you see this thing is awesome/beautiful/brilliant?" (Pro'lly not useful.)
;)
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> orcim
10/19/2013 at 03:56 |
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It's a hard sell. Even if they don't ask about why you like them, they always have some obscure question to ask you.
My car is making a ticking noise. How much will it cost to fix?
How fast is a Ferrari?
What's a good car to buy?
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orcim
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 04:03 |
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"Well, those are excellent questions, and may cost 2 or 3 beers to answer."
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> orcim
10/19/2013 at 04:13 |
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Like Zoltar?
You may ask one question...
Manuél Ferrari
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 04:14 |
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Agree. Either people get it or they don't.
I counted down the days until I got my drivers license. I hooned the day I got it. It was the best day of my life.
Nobody had to tell me driving was fun. Having freedom and taking corners fast was a please that didn't need training or explanation.
BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 06:00 |
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What I tend to do is just continue as normal, and hope my enthusiasm will rub off on other people. For the most-part, it does.
If actually asked, I usually ask them if they've driven an exciting car. For the most part, people my age haven't. They've driven boring as hell little econoboxes or cheap 90s hatches.
Those cars can be great fun, but you have to give them a leading hand.
There are cars that will lead you to have fun, rather than you leading them. My Alfa's one of those, and is part of the reason I got into cars. The noise it makes and the leap of acceleration are thoroughly addictive.
If people haven't had that experience I usually give them a bit of a break. If they have had that experience, but still don't like cars, I usually give up on trying to explain it to them.
Volvosaurus-Rex
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 10:29 |
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I find that even a lot of "car guys" (or girls) don't understand the breadth of car enthusiasm. When you mention you love cars too, they assume you are into their type of enthusiasm.
In any case, I just keep on keeping on, being a car guy isn't the most social of activities. I've found a number of people who have my same enthusiasm and then we just push each other to be better, do more autocross, etc...
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 12:24 |
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Pushing cars to their limits is what I believe makes them fun, The smaller cars have a low "limit" so to speak, and you're often reaching it. with a larger and faster vehicle, you have to push harder to reach the limit.
shinsen
> YSI-what can brown do for you
10/19/2013 at 12:35 |
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did he say anything that made you believe he was kinda "getting it"? just wondering
TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 12:37 |
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Three easy steps:
1 Buy Miata
2 Find curvy roads
3 Take them for a rid
PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/19/2013 at 12:44 |
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put said person in a fast, manual equipped car.
do the following in any order: Burnout, E brake turn, vigorous acceleration, mountain pass, dirt road, (if awd or rwd) drift, and then stop vigorously and smile
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YSI-what can brown do for you
> shinsen
10/19/2013 at 12:51 |
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Well he was smiling for most of the time, which my dad never does. Plus he talked about it for about 2 months after it happened. Like he would bring it up in conversation without me saying anything. He pretty much had a blast.
KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
> MtrRider Just Wants Doritos
10/31/2013 at 07:04 |
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Take 1 not getting it person, add two seat drop top, add a dash of tire smoke, some leaves, and gear changes.
People like going fast, even if they don't admit it.
Either that or step them into a tube frame track day car at a track day.