The most expensive joy ride ever recorded in Quebec's history!

"RotaryLover" (rotarylover)
10/16/2013 at 03:51 • Filed to: Two wheels bad

UPDATED! Last Saturday at around 3 PM two motorcyclists, one aged 26 the other 29, were driving at excessive speed, passing other motorists illegally. One of the motorists eventually called the police. The riders got intercepted pretty quickly near the police station of Wakefield in Outaouais. One of the riders tried to get his helmet camera hidden but failed to do so and got taken for proof. This is what they saw partially (just click on the vid).

http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/fait…

The 26 yrs old male had 21 tickets handed out for a mind blowing 116 demerit points (an unrestricted license have only 15 points allowed before it's revoked) which will cost him 11 268$!

The 29 yrs old male had also 21 tickets but only 113 demerit points and it will cost him 10 968$

Update: They are facing criminal charges and they actually tried to deal with the cops so that they leave them with their license for work reasons. Needless to say...it didn't work. They were travelling between 150-200 km/h.

Here in Quebec, they give back 15 points each 2 years and a big excessive speed ticket leaves your record with a mark that stains it for 10 years even if you have all your points back. After checking out the SAAQ, I found out that the license will be revoked for 1 year. Thanks for the heads up !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

DISCUSSION (100)

Paul, Man of Mustangs > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 17:42

Wow. Multiple passes over a double yellow in a construction zone, driving into oncoming traffic, passing multiple cars, and excessive speeding, just in that short clip alone!

RotaryLover > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/15/2013 at 17:44

And the real clip shows much more. But it's not posted anywhere.

davedave1111 > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 17:45

That's bizarre. Does Quebec not have any criminal laws for dangerous driving? You don't normally hear about lists of offences like that because anything that serious is considered one ongoing criminal offence rather than a series of separate minor traffic offences.

Normally, that's how it works: get in a police chase and you'll go to jail, but you won't get speeding tickets.

Paul, Man of Mustangs > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 17:46

Glad these guys got shitcanned like that. There's no reason to be driving like that on a public road.

RotaryLover > davedave1111
10/15/2013 at 17:48

Nope, no jail. You get your vehicle impounded, you lose your license on site and get handed out the tickets. I think they didn't resist, that's part of the reason they didn't get thrown to jail.

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/15/2013 at 17:49

I must say, it was quite the spectacle. I was waiting for karma to step in instead of the cops.

However, what I can't take serious is the term "demerit points" because demerit just sounds like high school all over again. Makes me think they're just going to get a day in detention and then be free to go.

Canada sounds nice even when they're trying to be mean...

Paul, Man of Mustangs > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches.
10/15/2013 at 17:50

"I'm very upset with the two of you. I'm giving you 116 and 113 demerit points. Sorry."

RotaryLover > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/15/2013 at 17:51

Indeed! This will serve as a lesson to those who do stupid stuff like this.

pdish > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 17:51

Will they be able to keep them off the roads? The US sure can't as has been shown recently...

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/15/2013 at 17:55

LMAO! The sorry at the end wins it for me. I can see the officer walking into the parent's house of the two guys, pulling them along by their ears, and then sitting them down to explain what they did to their parents.

RotaryLover > pdish
10/15/2013 at 17:56

I'd say no. One of them will probably be caught again driving the car of his friends/familly unless they behave themselves and drive with nothing that will make them suspect that they gotta get pulled over for the next 15 yrs.

shpuker > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 18:06

I hope they can't afford to shill out the cash for the ticket. Then maybe we'll get a touch of jail time thrown in.

RotaryLover > shpuker
10/15/2013 at 18:14

Here they wont put a father that killed his kids in jail because they think he's mental. He's free now but under supervision. You think they gonna do that to two joy riders? Quebec's justice is kinda fucked up.

f86sabre > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 18:48

Regarding the subject of the post: idiots

Regarding the bikes shows: I have one of those cop BMWs. Torque machines.

RotaryLover > f86sabre
10/15/2013 at 18:53

I guess they have no choice if they wanna catch reckless drivers.

CAR_IS_MI > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 19:49

I like this idea better. Throwing someone in a cell then suspending their license for 30 days and making them clean the sidewalks doesn't really work too well. Sure they end up with a few thousand in legal fees, but $11,000 in fines plus instant loss of license for 10+ years!!! Yea you stayed out of jail, but I hope you didn't plan on buying... ANYTHING for a little while, never mind holding a job outside of the local transit range...

RotaryLover > CAR_IS_MI
10/15/2013 at 19:55

That will definitely show them and show speeders how seriously charged they can get if they are caught here.

SteyrTMP > RotaryLover
10/15/2013 at 21:25

Meh. I went to watch the news clip... annoying French. Of all the languages I don't want to hear, Quebec French (do they still require French only on storefronts?) is one of the most annoying, right above illegal immigrants snickering at you while jibbering in their native language because they are too ignorant to learn yours. It doesn't even sound like French... I remember my parents telling me about the time they went to Quebec... asked someone if they spoke English... the store owner replied "No."

Rant off.

SteyrTMP > SteyrTMP
10/15/2013 at 21:29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devine_v.…

I guess I answered my own question...

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > f86sabre
10/16/2013 at 04:33

High-end torque or Low?

f86sabre > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
10/16/2013 at 08:33

Does pretty good both ways, but mostly low end. Cop bikes have different gearing from the civilian models.

m2m, apex detective > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 08:57

Kinja'd!!!

150-200 kph ... doing that each day while I still can. D':

ezeolla > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 08:57

This is all I could think of while watching that video

Kinja'd!!!

Anonymy > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:01

Hold on!! Wait! How did the cops get the right to seize the video?? Forget the things that witnesses accused them of.

stevestamop > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:02

Say what you want, but Gilles Villeneuve used to do the exact same thing through Berthierville and he is the greatest thing to ever come out of Canada (Rush are equally awesome).

Let's calm down with the hate guys, we've all been dickheads before.

AlBosnien > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:02

I just got a bike....going to be learning how to ride real soon (I'm 31 by the way). Currently the bike is in my garage, torn to pieces because well...I want to make sure it's mechanically suitable to ride. After all the latest we've heard about motorcycle riders in the news in past 3 weeks...how will I expect other motorists to treat me on the road, as a beginner...thanks to these guys, everyone that sees me on the road will think that I'm out to stunt/drive fast an show off....or cause an accident and/or slash tires pull them out of the car to beat them up. It's a bad start to something that I'd like to call "deconstructing the stereotype". I'm going to be swimming against the current here.

DIRTEE30 > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:03

Yea, I fucking hate that. Montreal is a beautiful city, but some of the Quebecois suck. How is that you require other provinces to comply with dual-language, including requiring all government employees to be fluent in English and French, yet you have people who refuse to speak English in Quebec? I'm not Canadian, but I can see why Canadians in other provinces generally have this hatred toward Quebecois. The secession should have happened in 1998!

McMike > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:04

"Your honor, I'm very proud to present to you exhibit C....

Not because of the content, but because it's 1080p 30fps. Just look at it!"

Kinja'd!!!

Nhat-Viet Phi > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:05

Your parents probably didn't visit Montreal then, since out of the whole province of Québec, surely Montreal is by far the most international or cosmopolitan city. I highly doubt any tourist would have faced that kind of opposition to English there.

Then again, I'm fluent enough in French that I wouldn't pass for an "immigrant" for long.

jalop1991 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:06

No problem. These guys will just come on down to NYC to do all this where the cops won't do anything because they can't, or they're lazy, or they know they'd be arresting their own and don't want to, or...

blah > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:08

Attention! NYPD.....2 riders + wreckless endangerment joy ride = 2 arrests and $20,000 revenue.....incredible eh!

79MZsidecar > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/16/2013 at 09:08

Oh, don't be sorry, it was my fault! Have a nice day!

duurtlang > m2m, apex detective
10/16/2013 at 09:10

... on proper infrastructure and with other motorists that are properly trained and that expect you to go those speeds. Big difference.

zyodei > AlBosnien
10/16/2013 at 09:15

You're over-thinking all of this entirely, entirely too much.

justagigilo85 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:16

Kinja'd!!!

Yes, yes.... keep filming your illegal activities on your GoPros.... excellent...

In all seriousness, is it legal for police in Canada to just seize someone's camera on the spot?

MstrBlstr > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:17

The amount of points and fines sounds dramatic but this will go to court and will be greatly reduced. Not enough for those two to keep their licenses or be able to ride/drive any time soon but I bet it will go down to about 30 points each.
If you care about your license points in Quebec you always pay a lawyer to at least negotiate the ticket. It's about $100 per point for normal offences (2 or 3 points for speeding under 45 km/h over or stop signs and lights).

PostOMatic2000 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:19

Can anyone give me a pronunciation on Outaouais? out-a-was? o-tow-ays?

Pyruzor > Anonymy
10/16/2013 at 09:23

On top of that, it seems unfair that these guys should get such an excessive punishment simply because they happened to record it. If they hadn't recorded it, they could only have been sentenced for a few of those, and unlikely enough to ban them from riding.
What does this tell idiot riders? You can still do whatever the fuck you want, just don't record it...

On top of that, it seems completely out of proportion. A 200kg isn't going to cause that much damage to anything else in a highway collision, not like pedestrians were being put at risk.

G8GT364 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:24

As someone who lives 40 miles from the Quebec border I can tell you this driving style isnt exclusive to these riders. Every weekend the Quebec'ers make their pilgrimage south(especially now that our foliage is at peak) and apparently speed limits are suggestions to these people. The plus side is, as long as you dont record it and get caught, driving to Montreal is kinda like being on the Autobahn lol.

Giant Lobster Monster > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:26

This is probably the most racist comment I've ever read on this blog. I was not sure if serious at first. Any French-Canadian who read your comment will probably keep hating English-Canadians and Americans for at least another generation. Also, your parents seem to be major cunts. They can stay in their own retarded province or state if they don't speak the language. Or at the very least they can refrain from passing along their retarded judgement to the next-generation.

thinair > Paul, Man of Mustangs
10/16/2013 at 09:31

Passing on a single or double yellow line is not illegal if it's safe to do so, passing on a white line is illegal

Kevin > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:34

To be fair, english from anywhere other than the UK doesnt sound like proper english either but you dont see them hating on you. I think its unjustified to hate on a whole culture just because of a few outdated and admittedly ignorant laws.

Wacko > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:39

Wow, talk about the kettle calling the pot black. So they are too ignorant?? and you sir are too ignorant to even learn abit about the french culture, but that gives you the right to bitch about something you clearly don't know a thing about since your parents went there years before. I am an english quebecois, and have no problem talking and doing things over here.

Please don't ever come to Quebec, we don't want ignorant Idiots like you.

Rant off!

blackonblack > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:40

Good. It's nice to see motorcyclists held accountable for their actions.

AlBosnien > zyodei
10/16/2013 at 09:41

I don't think I am.. Apply this stigma to gun ownership for instance. One guy shoots and kills his family..and now those that own guns are bad people, without doing any further research that's the label people get from majority of populace. I'm not worried about my safety, it's the stereotype that people are going to form.

TheGodDamnPope > Pyruzor
10/16/2013 at 09:42

They should have quick-erase buttons on the camera that format the memory card when you hold it down.

Devin > PostOMatic2000
10/16/2013 at 09:42

ooh-tah-weeee

"we" as in "wet", but you really emphasize that syllable. I can't think of any English word that uses that sound to use as an example.

Wacko > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:45

Yeah but if they are caught driving a friends/family car the car will be confiscated for 3 months, I know I wouldn't lend my car to them.

Devin > justagigilo85
10/16/2013 at 09:46

If it is in the open I believe it is. Had they tucked it into their jacket or a backpack then it would be on the person and thus require a warrant.

But, that is Ontario. There are three important things to learn about Quebec:

Quebec is special

Wacko > Devin
10/16/2013 at 09:48

No it is more ooh-tah-way

I know since i do live in quebec, and have been there many times.

Outaouais is a region

Upshift > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:48

You know, I should be happy that my humble hometown of Gatineau, Quebec gets featured on Jalopnik. But instead, I'm embarassed by these two morons. Seriously we have so many damn racetracks around here that there is no excuse. And if you're gonna be doing stupid shit like this, don't carry around a go-pro. That camera was their undoing. Serves them right either way.

Coan Arcanius > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:48

Fun fact: no in french is Non and most people pick up a bit of either language. If it was anywhere they'd likely experience a bit of english tourists or anglophones, they probably know the question well enough to bluntly answer that they are not fluent in the other language.

I know if I was asked in French if I spoke french I would understand the question enough to say no or "je parlez pas francais" which is really butchering it, but would get my point across.

Ignorant twit. I may have no love for Quebec and a lot of what goes on there, but my god...

Wacko > jalop1991
10/16/2013 at 09:49

the cops will just join them

redhotchilipepper > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 09:51

And please, dont leave your province and come visit the Country of Canada that Quebec wishes they had nothing to do with. If we see a Quebec license plate in Ontario, odds are they are asian drivers and that just upped the danger level. As for getting pulled over, these guys suck, they had another 100 Km/hr left on the speedo... they needed to play some more GTA5.. oh wait, there probably isnt a french version, so they couldnt understand it.. Keep your rants in your pants

davlac89 > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 09:53

WEstern, just the WE without the S. ''oot-tah-we''

Names have been changed to protect the innocent > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 09:53

Funny, my experiences have been the opposite. When I go there, I make an effort to speak what French I can, which isn't a lot, but I do try. I have always been treated with patience, respect and friendliness.

PS, once I speak a bit of French, The conversation often ends up being in fluent English from both sides.......... interesting.

The Stig's graphic designer cousin > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 09:54

This didn't deter them one bit. The very next day, the police were dispatched to investigate reports of someone doing donuts on a bike.

Kinja'd!!!

MstrBlstr > Devin
10/16/2013 at 10:00

This might go through as a probable cause search. If witnesses reported a camera or the policeman saw it before it was put away then the seizure is legal. It's all about how the police came to the knowledge of the camera. If they just guessed that the riders had one and strip searched them the defence would fight the evidence gathered from the camera. It is nothing to do with Quebec being special.
Ontario is even more special regarding idiotic laws suspending due process on the roads. Instant vehicle seizures for simply chirping the tires with the cop being the judge are a bit absurd. Ontario's top cop (Fantino) was always complaining how the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was getting in his way. And Ontario people elected him as MP. I would rather vote for a corrupt thief than that buffoon.

LandSpeed-DSM > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:02

A$$hat motorcyclists actually being fined?

Kinja'd!!!

NovemberAjax > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:02

Can I just make a point of note on the double yellow thing? (As everyone seems keen to vilify motorcyclists right now.)

Look at the video. The road is almost dead straight, with nothing coming towards them when they make the passes. There is nothing unsafe about this. No side roads, no intersections, no oncoming traffic. Whoever painted those double yellow lines needs some training about how to stripe roads because they're utterly pointless in this case.

So : technically, yes, they broke the law. No argument. Mitigating circumstances : they passed safely, with plenty of room, on a road with good sight lines and without endangering anyone.

Bear in mind that motorbikes are considerably quicker when accelerating than cars, so passes like this are quick and easy to accomplish.

Car drivers are always quick to judge motorcyclists because for the most part, we're viewed as baby-raping axe murderers thanks to the way the press deals with us. Car drivers have a knack for coming up with stupid comments when shown something like this. I'm reminded of the NYC beating and one of the comments posted there. Someone wrote this:

"If I were surrounded by motorcyclists, driving erratically, occupying all the lanes and putting me in danger, I think I'd have done the same thing."

Change a couple of words and read it again from a motorcyclists point of view:

"If I were surrounded by SUVs, driving erratically, occupying all the lanes and putting me in danger, I think I'd have done the same thing."

As the minority road-users, we deal with the above statement every day. Believe me - motorcyclists are well aware of how exposed we are, and how appallingly people drive when cocooned in mobile living rooms with heated this, air-conditioned that, and 145-speaker entertainment systems, isolated from the outside world in a two ton box riddled with blind spots with wifi access. Don't hate us because we choose to drive different vehicles - try using your eyes and seeing us, and giving us the benefit of the doubt instead of believing everything you read or see on TV.

Kickplate > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:04

There's definitely an intolerance lately towards bikers. Probably stemming from what happened in NYC a couple weeks ago. Lawmakers are talking about passing various legislation, and I saw a meathead hurl a padlock at a biker after he revved his engine repeatedly in the meatpacking district last week. He almost fell of his bike when it hit. But no one cared, and a couple people clapped. Last week in East Hampton, four were pulled over in the NW Harbor in a wooded backroad area where they generally like to ride fast. The riders were standing on the side of the road and the officers were inspecting the bikes. Then on the LIE sunday night, six or eight were pulled over... standing on the side of the road with their bikes being inspected. Most bikers are respectful and ride cautiously. But many of them don't. And it's become a real issue, especially when they ride in packs.

Rick Allen's Left Arm > m2m, apex detective
10/16/2013 at 10:08

On a track: F*** Yeah!

On the street: Don't be a squid.

Wacko > redhotchilipepper
10/16/2013 at 10:08

Was I talking to you?

and by the way:

Kinja'd!!!

pfftballer > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:09

Fine them, they deserve that, but taking their drivers license for 15 years is crazy. All I saw was them pass on a double yellow and speed, it's not like they were splitting traffic or out of control. It's excessive punishment like this that will cause motorcyclists to run from the cops rather than stop. They probably could've got away if they truly had no regard for the law.

Rick Allen's Left Arm > LandSpeed-DSM
10/16/2013 at 10:09

Don't confuse squids with motorcyclists.

Wacko > davlac89
10/16/2013 at 10:11

Outaouais ( French pronunciation: [utaw] ) from wiki

Jaaaag > SteyrTMP
10/16/2013 at 10:11

Double up on your asshole pills this morning?

I love Quebec and can't wait to visit again. Poutine!

BoumboQC > Giant Lobster Monster
10/16/2013 at 10:16

Eh oui, I speak french, I live in Quebec and I hate english people even more now.

Because you guys have no fucking identity, don't be jealous about ours.

Fier d'être Québécois, et je vous emmerde.

Kinja'd!!!

RayHMKishimoto > CAR_IS_MI
10/16/2013 at 10:17

Well, nothing will prevent them from stealing a motorist vehicle and drive away...

Wacko > Names have been changed to protect the innocent
10/16/2013 at 10:18

See if you make the effort they will too, but if you don't even try when you are in a french area, why would they try.

AntiFish03 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:19

Now I know that the story is in Canada... So my first question is does Canada have a similar law to the US that an officer must directly see a misdemeanor? I. E. This would be a really simple case to have thrown out in the United States.

Defense attorney : "Officer xxzxxxx, how long were you following the defendants?"

Officer: "just a 1/2 mile or so, they stopped just after I caught up."

Attorney: "So how did you observe all of these infractions?"

Officer: "from the video camera mounted on his head"

Attorney :" so you never directly observed these infractions?

Officer: the video shows....

I could go on for a while back and forth but you should get my meaning of all of this... At some point in time the defense attorney is going to request that the video be suppressed as prior bad acts. So the only portion of the video that can remain in evidence is what the officers directly observed.

AntiFish03 > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:20

Defense attorney : "Officer xxzxxxx, how long were you following the defendants?"

Officer: "just a 1/2 mile or so, they stopped just after I caught up."

Attorney: "So how did you observe all of these infractions?"

Officer: "from the video camera mounted on his head"

Attorney :" so you never directly observed these infractions?

Officer: the video shows....

RayHMKishimoto > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:21

as biker gang?

Wacko > pfftballer
10/16/2013 at 10:22

well we only get to see a few seconds of the video. It is not excessive at all. If you drive like that, you deserve to lose your license for 15 years.

RayHMKishimoto > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:22

Surely, his friends will lend theirs because they don't fully understand the circumstances.

fintail > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:23

I hope it was one of those wealth-based fines that areas with leading levels of human development have favored. Otherwise, it might be like getting blood out of a turnip - in this case, a particularly stupid and lucky turnip.

Wacko > Upshift
10/16/2013 at 10:25

You should be proud of the cops of your hometown. By the way there are morons like that in every town, Now if only the NYPD could take example from the SQ((sûreté du quebec)quebec provincial police)

LandSpeed-DSM > Rick Allen's Left Arm
10/16/2013 at 10:27

Former motorcyclist here. The responsible, courteous riders are the minority now. These were motorcyclists.

kitchenaire > redhotchilipepper
10/16/2013 at 10:27

I'm a motorcyclist and I think the Asian driver thing is absolutely bullshit. I have ridden everyday from March to November for the past 8 years and have never noticed Asian drivers being any worse than any other race, AND I live in Toronto. Now WOMEN, don't even get me started on Women (in N America only that is, in France, the UK, Ireland, Germany, the Netherlands, women drive just fine :) )

Casper > duurtlang
10/16/2013 at 10:28

Now see, that logic immediately annoys me. Why is it that people think everything needs to be lowered to average ability. I would argue that if these motorists aren't up to the task of dealing with other traffic properly, regardless of speed, they have no place on the road. I agree with the infrastructure point though. There are certain maximums based on surface quality. Most are much higher than people think they are, but it varies drastically vehicle by vehicle.

kitchenaire > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:28

But do drunk drivers lose their licenses for 15 years? For that matter do drunk drivers who KILL people ALWAYS lose their license for life or even for 15 years?

Wacko > Pyruzor
10/16/2013 at 10:29

It's like any other crime, if they have proof to charge you with they will use it all. If you film yourself breaking they law, you are just making the job easier for the cops to charge you.

Wacko > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:30

I'm just wondering if the NYC bike incident didn't happen would this outcome be different. I think Quebec is making an example of these idiots.

Casper > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:30

Meh. Unless Quebec has some secret laws I don't know about, this is just for show. Most of the time when something like this happens and fines this expensive are passed out, one of two things happens: court lets them make payments and gives them new restricted licenses or they just don't pay and keep driving anyway.

I guess theater is good for making people feel good though.

kitchenaire > duurtlang
10/16/2013 at 10:30

Nope - imho of course. Doing it on fairly empty roads is pretty safe imho even in North America (where NO drivers are "properly trained" and probably arent really expecting you to go those speeds, well above 100mph/160kph anyway)

Paul, Man of Mustangs > thinair
10/16/2013 at 10:31

Is that how it works in Quebec?

Wacko > RayHMKishimoto
10/16/2013 at 10:32

well then they will deserve paying for 3 months impound fees, towing fees....

RobG-ADV > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 10:32

Sorry, this is utter bullshit and a great example of why I'll never live in Canada. In the US, that video "evidence" couldn't have been used because it was obtained illegally.

And like somebody else said, it should have been a dangerous driving offense rather than a huge list of every little thing. This is just cops being assholes, because they can be.

While I can't condone what these guys did, I think the penalty is beyond extreme. IMO, they should get their passports and move the hell out of Canada. No reason to go back.

Nice to see the usual motorcycle haters here, btw.

RotaryLover > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:33

Gothmog3VZ - Twin AW11's > Devin
10/16/2013 at 10:34

as a Quebeccer, I have this to say...

Fuck Quebeckistan, can I move over after I get my degree? :)

Wacko > kitchenaire
10/16/2013 at 10:35

drunk driving is a whole other story which I don't really know. but this site will answer your questions: http://www.dui.ca/quebec.php

Upshift > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:38

True. The SQ and Gatineau police always seem very efficient at catching speeders in any vehicle. Bikes don't seem to get away as easily as in the US. That's why I keep telling my best friend's little brother that his high speed escape fantasies aren't gonna work.

Upshift > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:39

duurtlang > Casper
10/16/2013 at 10:44

M2m lives in Germany, so people expect people to drive this fast there. You simply behave differently when you do. I know I behave differently when I drive on a German highway. In any other country I've driven in you don't expect someone to drive 200+ kmh, in Germany you do. As a result you'll be much more defensive and cautious when changing lanes in Germany.

If motorists aren't up to the task but are on the road they are a major hazard. To themselves and to others. If this hazard is too great it's to be prevented. I imagine there are three ways to solve this; 1. Get the incompetents off the road. 2. Improve their competence or 3. Lower to average ability.

RayHMKishimoto > Wacko
10/16/2013 at 10:49

Well deserved ;)

alpineflier > kitchenaire
10/16/2013 at 10:56

Drunk drivers SHOULD lose their licenses. Permanently. On the first offense. Driving is a privilege, not a right. If more people understood that, the roads would be a much safer place.

Azzy > pfftballer
10/16/2013 at 10:58

And splitting lanes, under good conditions, is a safety move. In most non-US countries (including California)

Devin > Names have been changed to protect the innocent
10/16/2013 at 11:00

I do this on hold with big corporations like telecom companies or insurance. If you say english, they put you through to India with people who can't speak english. You say Francais and they put you through to a Quebecker who probably will.

Devin > Upshift
10/16/2013 at 11:03

There are tons of bikers in Gatineau. I bought my first bike from there because it was so cheap. I was in Ottawa reading through the Auto Trader and thought it was Hull. Definitely went further than I bargained for but I got the bike I wanted at a good price.

Howie > RotaryLover
10/16/2013 at 11:06

Tsk...tsk... like running your mouth about your girl friend and her incredible felatio skills, using a cell phone or mini cam to brag about your exploits will only lead to bigger trouble.

Don't take vids, don't post kill stories or set up races on Facebook or in your favorite forum, its just that simple.