Whats your favorite Hot Hatch!?

"maximillious" (maximillious)
10/08/2013 at 17:04 • Filed to: None

I'm bored. There is an hour left of work... and I want to know what your favorite hot hatches are.

Mine is the Honda (Acura) Integra Type-R.

DISCUSSION (55)

MonkeePuzzle > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:06

I contest that's a hot coupe, and the real winner is the same generation civic :D

AbigGRNboot > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:07

Ummmm...is that a hatch? I know it has a hatchback style deck lid opening thing, but is it really a "hot hatch"?

Mine.

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PRBot II > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:11

Kinja'd!!!

My old Saab from a few years ago (not this exact one, but close).

Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:12

The Integra's a coupé! Yes it's a liftback, but coupés can be either. See the Mk.IV Supra for one example.

Anyway, I'm thinking Renaultsport Clio 182 Trophy. Or a V6!

Kookanoodles > AbigGRNboot
10/08/2013 at 17:13

Well it is technically a hot hatch, however I've often seen that kind of car being referred to as "sport compacts".

maximillious > MonkeePuzzle
10/08/2013 at 17:14

I would argue otherwise. The Integra type R employe a hatch rather than a trunk lid. This would therefore...by definition make it a hatchback. Although it does not have the stereotypical flat back hatch as we see on cars like the Civic SI 02-05 or the GTI or SVT Focus it does still employ a hatch back. Having owned the Type-r's little bro the GS-R I can say that it had all the utility of the 05 civic SI and more, and the same can be said when comparing it to the SVT.

AbigGRNboot > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:16

In that case here's mine.

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Kookanoodles > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:16

Tough one... Mine would definitely be something French, probably the 205 GTi

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Or the Mégane RS 265

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Or maybe the Clio Williams, because gold wheels.

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maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:20

I very much consider it a hatchback. because ultimately that is what it is. A quick search on Wiki (best source ever) you will see that it is considered "A hatchback derivative of the Civic"

While running searches on used car sites you can find yourself looking through a selection of integras by narrowing your searches to "Hatchbacks"

And the clio is epic. I saw a couple while i was living in europe and i loved them....just wish i had gotten the chance to drive them

maximillious > Kookanoodles
10/08/2013 at 17:21

I love the Megane!!!! that is one i would kill to have in the USA

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:22

Kinja'd!!!

The obvious answer is obvious.

J. Walter Weatherman > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:22

Easy.

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Yes, I am cheating. And no, I don't care in the slightest.

maximillious > AbigGRNboot
10/08/2013 at 17:23

Ill take it

I would also accept Supras and others of that ilk. Lets not limit ourselves simply to the idea that the hatch has to be verticle. a hatch is a hatch.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:23

Kinja'd!!!

xxxxxx > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:24

FRS/BRZ doesn't have a hatch. Not sure about the Supra.

Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:24

Wait, how can it be the hatchback version of a hatchback? I'm sorry but it's a coupé! I'll never see it any other way. I guess other people are tricked by the tailgate. I see the original Integras were available with 3 or 5 doors, which would make them big hatchbacks, but ultimately the Type-R is the 3-door shape, and if it were any other car in the world, you'd call the particular shape that it is a coupé body.

maximillious > Kookanoodles
10/08/2013 at 17:25

See and that is the issue we are dealing with here. It is a hatchback. by definition. it has a hatch back. It can be a sport coupe or sport compact but so can the GTI, ST, RS, SVT, Type R Civics. The distinguishing factor in all of this is the hatch.

maximillious > AbigGRNboot
10/08/2013 at 17:25

Not allowed... that is an STI Wagon.

Lolo I kid. I love those things too, but they are just so far outside of my price bracket I choose to keep myself grounded.

maximillious > J. Walter Weatherman
10/08/2013 at 17:26

Haha its got a hatch, therefore Ill allow it :)

Klaus Schmoll > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:27

Kinja'd!!!

A friend of mine scared the hell out of me in one of these recently. He later said that he played it safe because of me being a passenger. So I have to nominate it. Other runners up are the Deltas and the MK II GTI.

Sn210 > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:27

Renault Clio V6!

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But because its forbidden fruit I'll say the VW R32

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maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:27

but I wouldnt. Id say it was a hatchback. I understand your indifference but its a hot car with a hatch...therefore calling it a hot hatch is acceptable.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:28

Kinja'd!!!

That's a hatch, sort of.

/trololo

But for real, I like the Focus RS.

maximillious > Sn210
10/08/2013 at 17:28

I love the R32 with all my heart, it would be my second choice behind the type r

maximillious > Klaus Schmoll
10/08/2013 at 17:29

I have endless jealousy of the euro hot hatch market

maximillious > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
10/08/2013 at 17:29

hahaha that is too funny. The focus RS is nuts and I only wish they had it here in the US

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:29

VW Golf Mk2 Limited.

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"Based on the Rallye Golf, a very limited edition Golf Mk2 variant exists, combining all of the high-line options available at the time. Designed and hand-built by the Volkswagen Motorsport division; only 71 of these "Golf Limited" models were produced. The exclusive feature package included a G60 supercharged version of the 16-valve GTI engine, mated to a sports transmission and Syncro four-wheel drive mechanism. All of these special edition models came in gunmetal grey, with five doors (except two examples built with three doors), BBS RM wheels in 6.5Jx15", US bumpers, a plain two-headlight grille with a unique blue detail, black VW logo, Hella tinted taillights, motorsport badges and a special numbered plaque. It is rumored that two examples were built with air conditioning. In 1989, these cars cost in the region of DM 68,500 each and were primarily sold to VAG executives and management, although a few are known to exist in Britain as of 2005. These cars produced 210 PS (154 kW; 207 hp) 252 N·m (186 lb·ft) and 0–100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 7.2 seconds, making them the most powerful VW Golfs ever produced until VW released the Mk4 R32 with 241 PS (177 kW; 238 hp) in 2003."

maximillious > xxxxxx
10/08/2013 at 17:31

shit you are right sir. I was always under the impression they did. Never saw a picture with the trunk open. I haz a sad.

Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:32

That makes the Supra, Nissan Z and Porsche Cayman hot hatches, though.

maximillious > J. Walter Weatherman
10/08/2013 at 17:33

And thank you for understanding the point of this :D

maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:33

And knowing that, doesnt the world feel like a more interesting place :) I know it does for me.

Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:35

It makes it a baffling place!

One last gasp before we call it a draw: the DC5 Integra (Acura RSX) - Type-R or not - was classified as a coupé by Honda. It's the same shape as the DC2.

maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:36

Dont think i dont understand what you are trying to say. And yes I agree they are coupes. and yes I agree putting a Cayman next to a GTI in the "hot hatch" category sounds crazy. But they are hatchbacks based on that build feature alone. Although, i dont think i can put the seats down in the Cayman and get my bicycle in the back...kinda frustrating.

maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:38

http://www.edmunds.com/acura/rsx/

revrseat70 > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:41

Kinja'd!!!

Preferably with some ridiculous VTEC/ AWD swap...

maximillious > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
10/08/2013 at 17:42

This is what I was hoping for. I did not know this existed and I am definitely going to look for more on this car. Thank you for sharing this little tidbit of info!

Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:43

I still say there's a difference between having a hatchback and being a hatchback (a confusion caused by having the vehicle type named after a tail gate type), but I'm not going to push this any further. Have a beer with tits on it:

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J. Walter Weatherman > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:46

And now for some slightly more realistic answers...

If I am going for something currently available:

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If I am going for something that is older:

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If I am going for something older and 100% more Swedish:

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maximillious > Mikeado
10/08/2013 at 17:47

"A difference between having a hatchback and being a hatchback" You must have written Bill Clintons response of "It depends on what the definition of "Is" Is" But really. I do see what you are saying and I fully understand... Here some Zombie dust for your thorough and respectful debate :)

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maximillious > J. Walter Weatherman
10/08/2013 at 17:49

The new Scirocco is beautiful and I hope to god they bring it here...ive heard whispers of such. I almost jumped on a Corrado once but I needed a daily driver and that just wasnt practical.

I knew a guy that ran a german import shop and had the original Scirocco that he had tuned up to 800whp. I am not sure what he all had in it but it was a scary ass car.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:49

No problem mate, I've been in love with this car since I bought my first Mk2 GTi 16v 12 years ago. You could say it's a holy grail for me, if you gave me the choice of a Lamborghini Gallardo and a Golf Mk2 Limited (sometimes called G60 Limited) I'd take the Golf in a heartbeat.

maximillious > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
10/08/2013 at 17:51

I am the same way, oddly enough... with the Honda City Turbo. (As long as it would have the moped with it) I freaking LOVE that car. but its as impractical to me as a Lambo...but so much cooler

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GreenN_Gold > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:57

When I saw his picture I thought he was going to say that this glass has boobs, but this glass isn't boobs. That would have been funny.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 17:58

That honda is awesome, when I see cars like that I get all giddy :) The Nissan March/Micra Superturbo is another car like that.. I mean, twin/compound charged 930cc engine sporting 110hp, in 1988!!

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RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > J. Walter Weatherman
10/08/2013 at 17:58

I see your "hatch" and raise you another.

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Mikeado > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 18:21

Heh, well, what I meant (quickly) was:

> A car that's a hatchback: A type of car. Two-box shape with glass in the tailgate, like I assume all the answers to your OP question are ( liftbacks like these also count, but I generally prefer to call them liftbacks and make the distinction, because I'm a bit like that as you've seen...).

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> A car with a hatchback: A car of any type that happens to have glass in the tailgate. Are often coupés if they're not just hatchback cars anyway. Other examples include the Ferrari F12berlinetta, Aston Martin Vantage, Jaguar XK and E-Type and Lamborghini Espada.

But enough now. Cheers! I suspect I'll need to wash it down with a pint of Brains.

Kookanoodles > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 18:47

I kind of feel like the term "hot hatch" better applies to economy cars that have been converted afterwards to sporty cars, not sporty coupés that happen to have a hatch.

Anon > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 19:00

Probably a JCW cooper. I mean the things are just fucking insane! The only thing more insane is the price tag! I'm sorry mini but for 30k base I can get a BMW 1 series with a manual.

xxxxxx > maximillious
10/08/2013 at 19:19

:( I know, a hatch would have been great. Unfortunately, a thing called mass exists.