by "Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
Published 12/20/2017 at 00:51
by "Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
Published 12/20/2017 at 00:51
Tags: Kia
STARS: 9
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It seems that the RWD Stinger GTs with shift-by-wire, the LSD, and launch control are consistently running 12.7s in the quarter mile. This is also the only Stinger variant Ive been noticing dyno claims being around 340-350 hp to the rear wheels. Those claims are appearing pretty credible in real world tests.
The V6 variants (whether AWD, w/o LSD, or w/o shift-by-wire) all seem to be nearly 10% less potent when it comes to power. Torque output has been consistent in all V6 variants.
That top video against the Vette is the fastest Ive seen a Stinger move.
This video below shows the same Stinger consistently running around the low side of 12.7s.
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Here are two reviews which clocked 12.79s quarter mile runs.
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All in all, if you are in the US then the RWD Stinger GT2 can be considered a direct competitor to the 400 hp Infiniti Q50 Red Sport. It’s within a tenth of a second of that car. The other GT variants (especially with AWD) are exactly as they appear on paper, quick but around 13.1 seconds in the quarter mile. Pretty hefty gap!
This also means that the upcoming US special edition Sunset Yellow Stinger GT (a base GT with the LSD added) could be as quick as that 12.6s Stinger. Basically, a Kia that fits in with the Charger, Mustang, and Chevy SS. A Korean pony hatch, which is what the car is. Ignore the premium brand marketing fluff.
If you wait until this Spring and dont mind a yellow hatchback without a sunroof then you can essentially get something that matches an Audi S5 or Q50 RdSp in performance (while being the size of a Lexus GS) for around $40,000.
Let me also mention that there is an internal parts upgrade coming to the 3.3t V6 through Hyundai’s Smart Stream engine revisions. Next model year the Lambda V6 family will get those revisions which means the 3.3t will be a better performing engine even though the power ratings will not change.
From Kelley Blue Book (they may have confirmed that 3.8 liter twin-turbo V6 that I speculated about a year ago):
Updates to the twin-turbo 3.3 include an air-cooled intercooler, high pressure direct injection, high energy ignition, redesigned combustion chambers, reduced internal friction, electronically-controlled thermostat, sodium-filled exhaust valves (a V-6 first, according to Hyundai), increased exhaust gas recirculation, and new cylinder heads integrated with their exhaust manifolds. Output remains the same—365 horsepower, 376 lb-ft of torque—but efficiency improves.
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I honestly feel better now that I know why the performance of the Stinger GT was so inconsistent. I was going to warn everyone that there may have been a boost or injector pressure issue with the V6 but it looks like the powertrain is consistent and solid. There just happens to be one variant which over achieves substantially.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
12/20/2017 at 01:00, STARS: 2
Kia needs to fix them by fitting a V8 and a manual
"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
12/20/2017 at 01:09, STARS: 0
Honestly at this point I wouldnt be surprised if they decided to make a few hundred.
"sony1492" (sony1492)
12/20/2017 at 02:35, STARS: 0
I’m surprised adding an intercooler and gdi didn’t increase peak output
"shpuker" (shpuker)
12/20/2017 at 03:04, STARS: 1
V8 + TTs + ???? = Profit?
"DutchieDC2R" (dutchiedc2r)
12/20/2017 at 03:20, STARS: 2
Hatchback? Since when did ‘we’ start calling these cars hatchbacks?
I love this car. I just love it. The design, whats it capable of, the numbers (so far). The one thing I’m scared of, no idea if there are any grounds for my fear, is that within the coming 6 months of this model being brought out, we’ll see a number of design flaws/reliability issues rise and pretty much kill the charm of this car. Maybe I’m too negative, again, I absolutely love it and I have no issues with Kia whatsoever, but I really hope this thing will sell properly.
"random001" (random001)
12/20/2017 at 06:45, STARS: 4
It’s almost exactly as fast in the quarter as the 2002 Corvette Z06!
Although, lets be honest here, who cares?
"StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8" (stndibnz1)
12/20/2017 at 08:16, STARS: 1
Actually really impressed. Faster than my SRT, which is pretty disheartening......But V8 noises and wagon, so I think I still win.
"nafsucof" (galinskiomatic)
12/20/2017 at 08:22, STARS: 1
I have a friend with a company who would like to develope a larger turbo kits for these...
"Nerd-Vol" (Nerd-Vol)
12/20/2017 at 09:18, STARS: 1
I love that car! Sadly my budget doesn’t have what it takes for one. I hope they sell/lease the shit out of them.
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
12/20/2017 at 09:19, STARS: 0
My fear is that no matter how good it is, Kia will be screwed by their dealer network. Early reviews are mixed. I’ve read that it is comfortable and fast but kind of sketchy around corners and understeers somewhat. I’d like to find out for myself, which would me rest driving one. Which probably won’t happen because the Kia dealerships here are all super shouty, pushy, low-rent, gimmick-driven cesspools that make me dirty just stepping on the lot. The target audience for this car doesn’t want to put up with that kind of crap. In the same price range I can go over to the giant log cabin Lexus store and sit by a fireplace with free coffee while the non-pushy sales guy gets the keys to the IS350 demo that he’ll let me take out for an hour without anyone from the dealer even tagging along. If he reviews said “you need to drive this car right now” I would be more willing to go to the Kia store. But so far it has been “the Stinger is cool but if you actually like driving get a Giuilia.”
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
12/20/2017 at 09:26, STARS: 2
It seems like a great car that’s doomed to be ignored for no good reason. So many people still say “but it’s a Kia”, even though that’s totally meaningless.
I need to drive one, I’m very interested to see what it’s like. I saw one in the wild a few weeks ago, it looks fantastic.
"CobraJoe" (cobrajoe)
12/20/2017 at 09:29, STARS: 1
Put me in the camp of “It needs a manual”.
It shouldn’t be compared to the American pony cars unless it has a stick option. (It’s already a sedan and a liftback with no V8 option, it’s a sports sedan, not a pony car).
"Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
12/20/2017 at 10:37, STARS: 0
V8 + TTs + ???? = Profit?
More turbos...or another V8. W16 Kia baby!
"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
12/20/2017 at 10:46, STARS: 1
Faster than my E90 M3 as well.
"BeaterGT" (beatergt)
12/20/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 1
I was going to say, I just ran a 12.5 in my stock 2002 Z06 with a soft launch....but still pretty cool that this thing is a Kia.
"random001" (random001)
12/20/2017 at 10:58, STARS: 1
And a big, four door, five seater sedan to boot.
"79 horsepower monster" (tdwpgtp)
12/20/2017 at 15:28, STARS: 1
I seem to be in the minority here, but when looking from the front or side I can’t seem to find one bit of the design that seems to work with the others. These cars look like a mess to me, especially the front.
"Ch6inRe6ction" (dldavis1aggies)
12/26/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 0
No one is calling it a pony car rival but you..
"Ch6inRe6ction" (dldavis1aggies)
12/26/2017 at 11:11, STARS: 0
Because this is a low output twin turbo. It is a very relaxed engine with two tiny quick spooling turbos. They may be working on a higher output version with larger turboes.
"CobraJoe" (cobrajoe)
12/27/2017 at 09:11, STARS: 0
I’m arguing against comparing it to pony cars. Quote from the original author:
Basically, a Kia that fits in with the Charger, Mustang, and Chevy SS. A
Korean pony hatch, which is what the car is. Ignore the premium brand
marketing fluff
I really don’t see why a 4 door sedan should compete with a 2 door coupe.
"79 horsepower monster" (tdwpgtp)
12/27/2017 at 09:32, STARS: 0
I think you replied to the wrong comment
"cluelessk" (cluelessk)
03/16/2018 at 13:08, STARS: 0
Ya a track focused sports car is quick. Seeing a large sedan run similar times is the impressive part.
"random001" (random001)
03/16/2018 at 13:15, STARS: 0
I think I really meant that it’s a 1/4 mile drag race. WGAFF?
"cluelessk" (cluelessk)
03/16/2018 at 13:55, STARS: 0
Performance specs sell sports inspired cars. It matters.
People want to be able to list off 1/4 mile times, 0-60 etc.
"random001" (random001)
03/16/2018 at 13:57, STARS: 0
It’s not really something Corvette drivers look for, though. Lap times, yes. How much tacky chrome shit is sold to add? yes. How many gold chains can be worn whilst driving it? yes, but not 1/4 mile times.
"cluelessk" (cluelessk)
03/16/2018 at 16:18, STARS: 1
Oh you’re bad troll.