Intermittent no start. 

Kinja'd!!! by "XJDano" (xjdano)
Published 12/16/2017 at 15:57

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Damn. Wasn’t spark plug & coil. Continued so looked it up. May be an integrated fuel pump relay on the fuse box above. When testing in afternoon warm (60°F) it always started. Waiting until colder & no start to try & test relay fuse.

I had some YOuTube videos linked, but upon trying to edit before posting it all got deleted....


Replies (10)

Kinja'd!!! "Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
12/16/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 0

It cranks though, right?

Kinja'd!!! "XJDano" (xjdano)
12/16/2017 at 17:20, STARS: 0

Yep.

Kinja'd!!! "Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
12/16/2017 at 18:24, STARS: 0

Not getting spark, or not delivering fuel?

Kinja'd!!! "XJDano" (xjdano)
12/16/2017 at 21:45, STARS: 0

Not sure on either. Checked the codes and came up with cyl3 misfire, so I started with that.

This has been a thing since Thursday when my wife called or text and said it wasn’t starting.

From what she said sounded like a cold & old battery.

When it finally didn’t turn over for me, I knew it was not battery and something else. Pulled codes and started with that.

Still nothing. Would start, then not. Then start later 5-6 times in a row.

Looked on the YouTube. And came up with what was mentioned earlier. But can’t rule that out until it fails to start.

Kinja'd!!! "Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
12/16/2017 at 22:24, STARS: 0

“Not turning over” = no crank. You mean not firing , right?

Either way, the battery’s still a possibility. I’ve seen batteries strong enough to run the starter motor (and *sound good* while doing so), but be too weak to keep the PCM awake at the same time.

The problem might ultimately be like a fuel pump or something, but I don’t want to lead you on a wild goose chase by not verifying power first. You can probably skip the battery load test (since it goes from no-start to multiple successful starts), and move on to a voltage drop test instead.

Also, maybe hit it with some starting fluid and see how it reacts...

Kinja'd!!! "XJDano" (xjdano)
12/16/2017 at 22:45, STARS: 1

I’mma try in AM when cold. And I’m hung over (possibly)

If there isn’t voltage at fuel pump fuse I think that’ll be it.

Test:

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Bypass/ temp fix I’ll do Monday

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Part # & external relay from.. guys

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I will call dodge and see about part & if any outstanding recalls Monday.

Kinja'd!!! "pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
12/17/2017 at 04:49, STARS: 0

oh well plugs and coil was worth a shot

Kinja'd!!! "XJDano" (xjdano)
12/17/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 1

No juice at fuel pump fuse when attempting start this morning. So... ordering part thing as soon As they open. A few wires to solider and if it donesnt fix it, burn it.

Kinja'd!!! "Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
12/17/2017 at 16:24, STARS: 0

Part thing... TIPM?

Kinja'd!!! "XJDano" (xjdano)
12/17/2017 at 17:11, STARS: 1

Basically you cut wires from underneath TIPM and ad an additional external fuel pump relay. About $20 kit.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM486219/RCRIT-15V115-2720.pdf