Soldering with propane; good or bad idea? UPDATE

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Published 12/13/2017 at 18:27

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Update: So I decided to do a practice run with some spare wire. It worked really well, I was holding the wire a little bit away from the flame itself. I had the torch on the lowest setting and after not very long it started glowing red hot.

Is this normal for using it on a low setting? I figured on the lower setting the hottest part of the flame is closer to the torch, but I still don’t think it should glow red hot, but idk I’m new to using propane torches.

As you may know, I need to solder on a new connector for the coolant temp sensor. I have an electric soldering iron, but it’s corded and there’s no outlets near my car. I have a propane torch, like the one pictured, could I just put that on a low setting and solder with that? I don’t wanna have to pay $15-$20 for a cheap wireless soldering iron if I don’t have to.

I checked online to see if anyone make soldering tips for propane like they do butane, but I couldn’t find any.

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Kinja'd!!! "TheTurbochargedSquirrel" (thatsquirrel)
12/13/2017 at 16:47, STARS: 5

An extension cord would work a lot better. A propane torch isn’t a localized enough heat source and would probably melt the solder far from the wires.

Kinja'd!!! "crowmolly" (crowmolly)
12/13/2017 at 16:51, STARS: 0

Any reason why you don’t want to crimp it together? I don’t mean the cheap ass way, either.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 16:53, STARS: 0

Idk how well a crimp would hold up. If the connection comes apart the car will die and won’t start, so I’d rather just solder it and not have to worry.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 16:54, STARS: 0

Maybe, I’d have to see how far exactly the car is from my downstair’s neighbor.

Kinja'd!!! "RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
12/13/2017 at 16:56, STARS: 3

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Kinja'd!!! "lone_liberal" (token-liberal)
12/13/2017 at 16:58, STARS: 3

A torch is great for soldering pipe, not so much for electrical stuff.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 17:00, STARS: 1

Is this not an approved use of propane or propane accessories?

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 17:01, STARS: 0

Why not? Is it too hot or something?

Kinja'd!!! "lone_liberal" (token-liberal)
12/13/2017 at 17:14, STARS: 1

Yeah, hotter and harder to control the spread of the heat. We’re just talking a connector so not the most sensitive thing but it could scorch the insulation.

Kinja'd!!! "crowmolly" (crowmolly)
12/13/2017 at 17:15, STARS: 2

Honestly I think you could probably just get heat shrink butt connectors, crimp them on, and then use a cigarette lighter to shrink the insulation.

No offense but it’s not like you’re going to win a Ridler award with this car. Functional is fine, right?

Kinja'd!!! "Pickup_man" (zekeh)
12/13/2017 at 17:27, STARS: 4

Use propane torch to heat up a pointy chunk of metal, use hot metal to solder. Do not use propane torch to directly solder wires.

Kinja'd!!! "benjrblant" (benjblant)
12/13/2017 at 17:39, STARS: 2

Soldering wires is a precision operation. You need a fine paintbrush. A propane torch is the equivalent of a paint roller.

If you can’t stretch 120v out to your work area and you can’t move the wires in, consider using a cordless soldering iron or getting a low-power inverter to power your soldering iron off of the car battery. I’ve done the latter several times, 150-300w inverters run around $20 or so. I’ve also used it with a dremel for a short period of time. Not bad in a pinch.

Kinja'd!!! "promoted by the color red" (whenindoubtflatout)
12/13/2017 at 17:44, STARS: 2

Good crimp connections will hold. My Integra’s kill switch was crimped into the ignition switch circuit with butt connectors and it lasted 19 years.

Kinja'd!!! "TahoeSTi" (tahoesti)
12/13/2017 at 18:01, STARS: 0

Just disconnect it and move it inside. Just had to do this with my 02 sensors, Just find the end, unclip it and bring it inside.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 18:02, STARS: 0

True, but I just don’t really trust a butt connector to hold this. I’m scared it’d just randomly come apart and leave me stranded again.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 18:03, STARS: 1

I like it! Home made soldering tip!

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 18:04, STARS: 0

True, but this is in the engine bay on top of the trans and right next to the engine. I’m worried that over time the heating up and cooling off would cause the butt connector to fail.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 18:05, STARS: 0

Damn, I never though about that. Excellent idea, I’ll probably just do that.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 18:07, STARS: 0

Shit I forgot, that won’t work. The connector plugs directly into the sensor, so I’m not gonna be able to do it off of the car.

Kinja'd!!! "crowmolly" (crowmolly)
12/13/2017 at 18:39, STARS: 1

Whatever you prefer, but a good crimp with a heat shrink won’t really come loose unless you botch the job up front.

Kinja'd!!! "Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition" (realasabass)
12/13/2017 at 18:41, STARS: 4

Well just to let you know solder joints are more susceptible to vibration than a mechanical crimp. Solder joints are very hard which makes them quite brittle. I am an electronics tech and I can solder with the best of them, but there is not one soldered joint in any of my cars. Race cars use all crimp on terminals, although they may supplement the connectors with a little solder.  

Kinja'd!!! "Shift24" (the-nope)
12/13/2017 at 19:01, STARS: 4

Next time buy these and just hit it with heat and be done.

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Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 19:07, STARS: 0

Those look pretty awesome.

Kinja'd!!! "Shift24" (the-nope)
12/13/2017 at 19:55, STARS: 0

Only way I mess with electric now. Fuck soldering and that crimping shit

Kinja'd!!! "merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
12/13/2017 at 20:27, STARS: 0

Those connectors are very nice. I’ve had great luck with them.

Kinja'd!!! "I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker" (qaaaaa)
12/13/2017 at 22:05, STARS: 1

I believe the tip of the blue is the hottest part, not the part nearest the tip of the torch. But in any case, this isn’t the best idea. Just run an extension cord or unclip the whole assembly if you can. Much less likely to burn random crap or hurt yourself.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/13/2017 at 22:15, STARS: 1

I think I’m just gonna use butt connectors. The one’s I did for the radio were kind of shit, because of the confined area. But I just did a few for practice with plenty of room and I couldn’t even pull the wires out of them with vise grips. So I’m going that route.