by "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
Published 12/12/2017 at 13:32
by "Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
Published 12/12/2017 at 13:32
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I’m setting up the guest room in the driveway for the Holidays. This 2007 Coleman Sedona tent trailer — the only wheeled vehicle I have ever purchased new — has been dragged from the Pacific to the Atlantic and back twice, and up and down and back and forth across the West. Alas, it has sat covered these three years.
Anyways , the tires are crap and have worn like crap and look like they do after only about 5,000 miles. Can I use different tires or do anything else differently to hope for a different result?
Your thoughts?
"PartyPooper2012" (PartyPooper2012)
12/12/2017 at 13:45, STARS: 0
Thread looks good. I don’t see any cracking. Dirty, but they look fine to me. Give them a hose down and they will be fine.
Unless, you’re planning on taking your trailer rock climbing...?
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 13:46, STARS: 4
Ditch the bias ply and go radial. Bias ply supposedly track better but they wear like crap and they REALLY don’t like being left to sit in one place too long. I went Radials on my coleman and wont look back. So much better. I also highly recommend having your axle aligned. I burned through a tire in one trip to yellowstone because the axle was cocked an inch off center, from the factory.
"Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
12/12/2017 at 13:50, STARS: 1
The wear pattern looks like underinflation. Did you keep them at the correct psi?
I’d keep em. They are trailer tires. Run them until you get to the wear bars, especially since you haven’t used the camper in a few years. That is if they are starting to dry rot.
"vicali" (vicali)
12/12/2017 at 14:08, STARS: 0
Those’ll do. Keep the pressures up, watch for checking, keep an eye on them. At least your tent trailer isn’t huge - not too much weight on there.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:22, STARS: 0
All highway...
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 0
There aren’t very many tires to choose from for that size. Milestar has a radial. That’s not a heavy trailer; do you think I could run a 13-inch passenger tire?
I’ll ask the trailer shop about aligning the axle.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:26, STARS: 0
They’re kind of dry. I always run on the high end of inflation. Those tires are max 50, so I run them about 45.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:27, STARS: 0
I’m wondering if I could get away with running a passenger radial back there.
"PartyPooper2012" (PartyPooper2012)
12/12/2017 at 14:28, STARS: 1
sigh... that was joke... how are you going to get your trailer to climb a rock???
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 14:29, STARS: 0
Finding a tire is...challenging. The trick is finding the right load rating. It took my a long time to find a 13 inch tire with a 1410 lb load rating. So long as you can find the right load rating (max axle load - tongue wieght /2) then you should be fine to P.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:31, STARS: 0
They have some really silly tent trailers with lots of ground clearance. I figured you were probably joking.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:33, STARS: 0
Would you expect to find the axle load rating on a data plate somewhere?
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 14:33, STARS: 0
What tire did you come up with?
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 14:34, STARS: 1
It should be on an exterior plate on the chassis or behind one of the interior doors.
"Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
12/12/2017 at 14:35, STARS: 1
That’s part of it. Gotta run them at 50. Trailer tires are designed to run at their rated pressure.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 14:39, STARS: 1
These guys, I think. 1477 lbs load rated in the tire size that is the replacement for the stupid size they no longer make c78-13st
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/carlisle-radial-trail-hd/p/27226
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
12/12/2017 at 14:48, STARS: 0
Cover your tires son
Also how old are they? We replaced the 2011s on our Hi-Lo this year because they were old and, well, we’ve only owned it for a year so that was 5 years of unknowns
The nice thing is trailer tires are fukkin’ cheap. You could get away with running bias plys if you wanted to
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
12/12/2017 at 14:49, STARS: 2
I wouldn’t run a passenger tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=219
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
12/12/2017 at 14:52, STARS: 2
Thems are the tires I bought this year. No nonsense, good tracking, couldn’t feel an ounce of sway from Denver to Seattle and back
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
12/12/2017 at 14:53, STARS: 1
Find some radial tires, and run them at max sidewall pressure. I know you’re not supposed to use passenger car tires, but I forget the actual reason why.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 15:09, STARS: 1
Yes, need to be covered; agreed. Will do so moving forward.
They’re dry, but they’re also horribly edge-worn in strange and diverse ways.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 15:16, STARS: 0
Will definitely run these. Thank you. Do you run them at max rated pressure?
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 15:40, STARS: 0
I do because I have to. The trailer has a max load of 3300 lbs which means after accounting for tongue weight im actually a little over max. at 1485 lbs/tire. But my trailer is a lot heavier than yours im guessing.
"ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com" (ita97)
12/12/2017 at 15:46, STARS: 0
Those look like bias-ply tires. If so, you’ll probably get better wear out of some radial trailer tires. That said, I’ve never seen anyone actually wear out trailer tires, as they almost always will dry rot first. Trailer tires tend to be really low quality, cheap carcasses that also happen to have really high load rating for their sizes. Running passenger car/light truck tires works fine if you can find a tire in a suitable size that also has an appropriate load rating. In sub 16" trailer tires, that tends to be hard to do. On bigger trailers with 16" wheels, you just by a 10-ply 235/85R16 and be done with it.
It is curious that you would be getting wear issues on a single axle trailer. Is there play in the wheel bearings and/or out of balance trailer tires?
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 16:09, STARS: 0
Are those Carlisle tires too heavily rated for my trailer?
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 16:10, STARS: 0
I don’t know.
"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 16:14, STARS: 1
maybe. Without knowing weights its hard to say. That being said its not going to hurt it to have too much capacity. My current truck tires are rated to 3750 lbs per tire and my entire truck weighs about 5300 lbs. A little stiffer ride but its not like there will be anyone back there to complain.
"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
12/12/2017 at 16:17, STARS: 0
If it doesn’t move often I’d say pull the tires and store them inside slightly aired down in trash bags like you would slicks. No sense in having them hit by UV for no reason.
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/12/2017 at 17:02, STARS: 0
I’ll look into that. We never imagined it’s sit unused for three years.
"Nibbles" (nibbles)
12/12/2017 at 17:42, STARS: 0
Too much sidewall flex. Trailer tire walls are stiff as bricks to keep sway to a minimum. Run passenger tires and that trailer could be all over the place
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
12/12/2017 at 18:02, STARS: 0
That makes sense. I don’t think that was the reason I was given, but it makes a lot of sense.
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
12/12/2017 at 20:53, STARS: 0
I’ve used 13" passenger tires on a 3500 pound race car trailer for 20 years without issue. Having seen all the gripes on other forums and from friends about cheap Chinese trailer tires, I wouldn’t go any other way.
Mine last 5 years before the sidewall fails. On that trailer, Kumho’s like mine would probably last forever.