What is the derivative of horsepower? 

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Published 12/12/2017 at 13:22

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Is it torque or something else? And if so, can you derive anything from that? (pun fully intended.)

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Kinja'd!!! "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 13:25, STARS: 0

This is a math joke. I don’t get those.

Kinja'd!!! "Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
12/12/2017 at 13:26, STARS: 2

Semi related: how about the integral of the power curve to show the area under the curve? Then you could more accurately compare a big NA V8 with a high-revving I4 using a much better metric than peak bhp.

Not my original idea, I think I read it on Jalop about 10 years ago.

/opening a Calculus tutoring franchise called DeriveTime

Kinja'd!!! "Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
12/12/2017 at 13:28, STARS: 0

Hammerheadfistpunch has talked extensively about this very subject.

Kinja'd!!! "Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
12/12/2017 at 13:30, STARS: 1

Force Per unit time. 1 HP is 550 ft-lbs/s.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/12/2017 at 13:32, STARS: 0

A derivative is just the tangential line to a point. Although I probably worded that so that it didn’t make sense.

Kinja'd!!! "random001" (random001)
12/12/2017 at 13:33, STARS: 1

But it’s the tangential line at a point, AT EVERY POINT, which makes another line....or a lot of lines....

Kinja'd!!! "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
12/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 2

cept the math bit. I could never into math, which is why I was a communications major! But yeah, average power would be a great way to compare. Sadly no one publishes power charts...except GM for some reason.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 0

That’s an awesome idea! I wonder if you could also use that with gear ratios to figure which car will have the most torque/horsepower at the wheels?

Kinja'd!!! "Grindintosecond" (Grindintosecond)
12/12/2017 at 13:34, STARS: 1

Please stop drinking before you derive again ....

Kinja'd!!! "Highlander-Datsuns are Forever" (jamesbowland)
12/12/2017 at 13:37, STARS: 0

It is a fantastic way to see how useful the powerband is for normal driving conditions. It would show that an RX8 sucks and a Ford with a 24v V6 is much easier to drive.

Kinja'd!!! "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
12/12/2017 at 13:38, STARS: 0

I think we need to spam David Tracey’s email until he does an article comparing some motors this way.

Kinja'd!!! "Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
12/12/2017 at 13:45, STARS: 2

This really gets into partial differential equations.

Depends. HP = Torque*RPM/5252.

If you take the derivative of HP with respect to RPM dHP=(RPM*Torque/5252)dRPM would be HP’=Torque/5252

However if you take the derivative of HP with respect to and arbitrary variable, say x. Then dHP=RPM*Torque/5252dx would be 0.

I’m not sure how useful those would be. You could do dHP=RPM*Torque/5252dTorque would be HP’=RPM/5252.

You could do dHP=RPM*Torque/5252dRPMdTorque. But I think that gets to a constant of 1/5252.

It’s been awhile since partial differential equations, so I’ll need someone to check my work.

Kinja'd!!! "WRXforScience" (WRXforScience)
12/12/2017 at 13:54, STARS: 4

The time rate of change of the ratio of the horsepower to the rpm.

How quickly your horsepower:rpm changes, not very useful.

Kinja'd!!! "davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
12/12/2017 at 14:29, STARS: 0

I derive pleasure from it.

Kinja'd!!! "Shoop" (shoopdawoop993)
12/12/2017 at 17:38, STARS: 0

Turbo lag.