by "PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
Published 12/05/2017 at 21:57
by "PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
Published 12/05/2017 at 21:57
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So my wife and I have decided that as much as we love our doggo and our doggo loves us, it would be best for her to have a partner. So we’re keeping our eyes out for a second doggo.
I find one that would be awesome to rescue, and I swear these crazies that run these shelters have 0 clue about what is appropriate to ask of people, or stipulate.
Our current dog was a rescue, the questions covered who are we, what other animals we have, what the home environment was, and that we wouldn’t torture the dog.
This other rescue (run out of this woman’s home, red flag) has the audacity to effectively maintain control of the dog even after I would adopt it. For example:
“I will not give the animal to anyone else unless [Place] is notified.”
“I agree to allow [Place] or a representative to visit my home to do a home check visit before or after I adopt the animal. At such time, the adoption may be revoked if the representative feels the environment is not appropriate for the animal.”
“I will promptly notify [Place] of any change of address or telephone number.”
“I restate my understanding of my obligation by initialing here _____ to return my adopted animal to [Place] at any time during the animal’s life if I am unwilling or unable to care for the animal”
Additionally they ask, “What would you do if your dog develops a problem with:” and then ask a series of behavioral issues dogs may have.
I have nothing to hide, but it states pretty clearly that all adoption fees are not refundable and then runs through all of these clauses with absolutely zero definitions or stipulations of what is acceptable, or at the very least the minimum of standards expected. Meanwhile in big, bold letters the place wants to be absolved 100% of anything that happens to us, neighbors or anyone while the dog is in our care. So they want to maintain permanent and controlling agency in the dog with 0 responsibility for it.
I’m all for placing dogs in safe homes. I’m not for an opportunity where on the “feel” of the lady, I can have my dog taken from me without refund, at which time she could try to adopt it out to another family, and would be contractually able to do the same thing again.
/Rant.
I just want to give a dog a good home with 3 boys and another dog for it to play with, in a fenced yard.
Current doggo for your time.
"facw" (facw)
12/05/2017 at 22:31, STARS: 2
A pre-adoption home visit is not weird, though I’d agree post-adoption visit is strange.
The reason they are so insistent that you return the dog to them if you can’t or won’t keep it is not uncommon for people to just turn an unwanted dog loose, or dump it at a kill-shelter. They don’t want the dog to end up in that situation so they do everything they can to drive home that it must be returned to them.
Wanting your info if you move seems like overkill though.
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
12/05/2017 at 23:20, STARS: 0
I’m totally fine with impressing on me to “contact them if I move and can’t keep it,” and a pre-adoption visit/interview. But to contractually obligate you to contact them is, well, off. In a crazy sense.
The post-adoption is a non-starter for me. Otherwise it’s not an adoption, but a no payment lease. I’m not taking on the financial obligations of caring for a dog that at any moment could no longer be mine due to how she feels about me.
"Shamoononon drives like a farmer" (shamoononon)
12/06/2017 at 01:59, STARS: 0
I am on your side. I see why these rescues have issues and want to adopt to ‘good’ families but they are often run by people without paid incomes which means they have financial backing elsewhere and this is their passion rather than career. On the plus side that means you would probably be ‘ok’ giving your dog to them (and they will put your story on why you abandoned it on social media) but it does make it harder to adopt. Depending on where you live, of course.
I took a hairless diseased pit bull home from the county and I have no yard. Rescues turned him down. I was even renting an apartment at the time. He’s still here 11 years later, a child raised, home purchased and 10k money invested in his health and he’s happily farting on my bed.
"adamftw" (adamftw)
12/06/2017 at 08:03, STARS: 0
The place where I adopted my dog from does an unannounced home visit post adoption... and its the largest rescue in the area. It is kinda BS, I agree, but I do sort of agree with it in that they want to make sure the dog is in a good place; but many of these types of people and organizations are pretty overbearing....
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
12/06/2017 at 09:16, STARS: 0
I guess I would be more okay with it if there was a list of requirements to follow. Not that my house is in disrepair or that I’m a hoarder, but there are no stips to this contract, I’d be bound to the feelings of a stranger.
I’m just too much a 4th Amendment guy, I guess. You need probable cause and paperwork to come into my house for anything if you’re on the clock. My door is open to anyone off the clock and off the record. Again, nothing to hide, but I don’t want to play games with my house or family.
What’s to say she comes by and inspects my place, and then says, “I’m taking your dog unless you pay $X. And I’m legally okay to take your dog because you signed this contract, twice, saying I could. Don’t do that to your kids, they love this dog.” Sure, it’s extortion, but I’ve opened myself to it because of the contract I signed saying that based on her “feel” she can remove a dog from my home.
"adamftw" (adamftw)
12/06/2017 at 09:18, STARS: 0
Yea, thats a little much.
"BobHopesSexMachine" (bobhopessexmachine)
12/06/2017 at 17:00, STARS: 1
Hey. I promise I’m not stalking you, but I ran across this when surveying your other comments. Gist of this longer version w/TMI: trust your gut on this, and if you really like the dog—get him/her NOW.
Three and a half years ago, we were in the same boat—our older, solo dog needed a companion. We found a beagle at a rescue conglomo up here that operates under nearly-identical rules and set-up: rescue fosters operate out of homes. Beagle met our current dog. They got along swimmingly. Woman who was fostering the beagle visited our house for a pre-adoption home visit, and deemed our home safe and worthy. We set a date to pick up the beagle.
On that date, we show up to sign all papers, fork over adoption fee......only to find that she (beagle) had been adopted out to another couple not 15 minutes before we got there. We were gobsmacked when the rescue foster acted like this was no big and tried to show us other dogs. We walked away with a basenji boxer mix instead, who glued herself to my legs that morning. We signed papers, took her, and ran (more or less) to introduce her to our vet.
As far as your original topic, the rules are shady. I loathe the idea that a person who rescued or fostered a dog, responsibly adopts dog out, could take the dog back and put it elsewhere largely at a whim. The rules seem at odds with what I presume is the goal: finding safe, hopefully life-long homes for dogs.
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
12/06/2017 at 17:51, STARS: 1
I’ll take a stalker with input, haha.
We nearly didn’t adopt or current dog due to another family almost adopting her first, despite us already meeting and being approved to adopt her (had to wait for a final bit of paperwork to get stamped by the shelter) had the other family brought all of their paperwork, I wouldn’t have my current dog. They wouldn’t allow for a “hold deposit” so despite us being approved the day before, we had to get there at basically door-open the next day to ensue we’d get her. Not good business, IMO.
"BobHopesSexMachine" (bobhopessexmachine)
12/06/2017 at 18:47, STARS: 1
No joke, not good business. Happy that you have your current dog, and I wish you all the best with getting her new companion squared away.