by "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
Published 11/30/2017 at 00:24
by "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
Published 11/30/2017 at 00:24
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The trouble with the Prometheus and covenant is that, if you believe that Scott actually has an interesting story to tell, its taking too long to tell it. I mean if you think that each movie is a little more a piece of the pie that will eventually be a much larger universe then they make sense...but people don’t got patience for that kinda stuff. They want a complete arcing 3 act meal at the movies...a tight trilogy at most.
You know were people do have the patience to be jerked around by a story for years? TV. Think about if Prometheus was just Season one of a TV series and Covenant was season 2...there is a good 5 or 6 seasons of material in there and no one would be that mad about it not featuring enough alien or too much David or whatever. It would be all “have you seen Alien on netflix?” “I can’t wait until nest season.”
it wouldn’t have the budget of the movies and there would be anoying little sub arcs but on the whole...am I wrong?
Should have been TV
"Rico" (ricorich)
11/30/2017 at 00:32, STARS: 3
Could have a point. Movies like Prometheus have a lot to digest all at once and if you aren’t “into it” you won’t catch on. It’s not an action movie in any way and that’s what disappointed people who associate Aliens with Predator and think they are similar in themes.
"Wheelerguy" (wheelerguy)
11/30/2017 at 04:42, STARS: 0
No, this is a brilliant idea. I’d be down to stream Alien: The Series, even if we get just 8 episodes per season if they really want it long.
"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
11/30/2017 at 07:46, STARS: 0
If the story is dragging in movie form, it would drag that much worse in episodic form. At least on Netflix you could binge it, but I think even with additional side stories Prometheus and Covenant would develop far too slowly to be compelling as TV.
Part of the problem with both of these is the endings don’t really make the audience particularly curious about what will happen next. I suppose I don’t entirely remember how Covenant ended (which is a problem in and of itself...), but Prometheus was just David and Elizabeth fly off in an alien ship carrying a biological weapon. You have no idea where they are going, I think it was suggested it *could* be Earth but you never really cared about Earth in this franchise because it’s distant and irrelevant. While the alien threat is very real and very terrifying the audience is only trained to worry about the characters in the current movie, not some distant home base or other world.
Covenant, therefore, answered a question few were really asking: what happened to David, Elizabeth, and the alien spawn/weapon/scary dust? The answer ends up being really boring, an alien race we weren’t actually sure still existed at the end of Prometheus is wiped out, who cares? Earth is still a possible target that again we haven’t been trained as an audience to care about.
I suppose what I’m trying to say is the overall motivation of the characters and motivation behind the threat presented in each movie is weak, which is the overall story’s downfall. The best comparison I can think of is the SyFy series Helix, of which I only think I saw season 1. It had a moderately similar plot where a “disease” is discovered that presents a genuine threat to humanity, but it is currently contained on an isolated base. The difference is rather than being focused on a crew that had been out in space for a while, a long distance from an earth we never see, it’s a group of scientists working in Antarctica which makes the audience far more concerned about non-containment.
"StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8" (stndibnz1)
11/30/2017 at 08:50, STARS: 1
I actually really liked both. Enjoyable movies.
"Jason Spears" (shadestalker)
11/30/2017 at 09:57, STARS: 0
Ensemble cast with xenomorphs, lots of death, viewers learn to fear for the lives of any of the principals because no one has immunity against the writers. Game of Aliens it is.
"cmill189 - sans Volvo" (cmill189)
11/30/2017 at 15:24, STARS: 1
Excellent point. The same could be said for people expecting action from Bladerunner/Bladerunner 2049.
"cmill189 - sans Volvo" (cmill189)
11/30/2017 at 15:31, STARS: 0
You’re right though about people and their patience. I actually would have preferred to have Covenant and Prometheus be longer movies. I like both of them, despite the flaws. I prefer long movies, if the substance is there. I can’t stand the theatrical cuts of LOTR. Gimmee a book-cut version.