by "LJ909" (lj909)
Published 11/28/2017 at 12:23
by "LJ909" (lj909)
Published 11/28/2017 at 12:23
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I honestly couldnt believe it. Especially with the offerings that have come out recently. Really though? Over the Continental? What are your thoughts on this? Is it deserving? Personally I think with the quality problems its had, niche boutique like dealer network and still kind of pie in the sky hope of even still being in the US through the next decade, I think its a weird move. And in an of course move, the CR-V is SUV of the year and the F-150 is Truck of the year.
"Jcarr" (jcarr)
11/28/2017 at 12:32, STARS: 3
Motor Trend is drunk.
"Arrivederci" (arrividerci)
11/28/2017 at 12:32, STARS: 3
I thought the same thing - I looked for Ash’s name on the byline.
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
11/28/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 4
A year is a long time. Maybe “Car of the Week” for an Alfa.
"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii)
11/28/2017 at 12:33, STARS: 1
I thought MT was famous for bad picks.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 12:34, STARS: 1
More like Car of the Moment. And in any event, the award is for the Quadrifoglio anyway.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 12:35, STARS: 1
Sometimes they get it right. But then they do shit like this and it makes you question their automotive integrity and all the extensive testing they do.
"Mergio Sarchionne" (mergios)
11/28/2017 at 12:36, STARS: 16
To: Edward.Loh@Motortrend.com
Edward,
Please re-send me your bank account details. I need them to deposit the massive bribe for the COTY award.
Regards,
Mergio
EDIT: Oops, wrong screen. Please disregard
"haveacarortwoorthree2" (haveacarortwoorthree2)
11/28/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 3
You know MT is screwed up when it hands out a 2018 COTY award. It’s only 2017, MT!
"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
11/28/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 10
Well hey, this is the 20th anniversary of the time they picked the 1997 Chevy Malibu .
"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
11/28/2017 at 12:43, STARS: 1
I don’t know about reliability or performance, but I almost always like the looks of the Alfa and Lancia cars that I’ve seen over the years.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 12:44, STARS: 2
All jokes aside you have a point. I see this as a sale booster for a model that hasnt lit anything on fire.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 12:47, STARS: 0
I totally forgot about that. They’ve had many questionable choices, especially the last what, 20 years.
"Arrivederci" (arrividerci)
11/28/2017 at 12:53, STARS: 0
You laugh, but at the time, it was a massive leap forward for GM.
"WilliamsSW" (williamssw)
11/28/2017 at 13:16, STARS: 5
Only a matter of time before these start lighting on fire...
"Azrek" (azrek)
11/28/2017 at 13:17, STARS: 0
So what is the car of the year?
"RT" (rt-p)
11/28/2017 at 13:26, STARS: 0
I think it was a good pick.
"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein)
11/28/2017 at 13:27, STARS: 1
They actually had many worse choices back when they had separate Car of the Year and Import Car of the Year awards. There was often not a viable option of an interesting new American car so they picked something, and that’s how you got picks like the Malibu. The 1997 Import Car of the Year was the E39 BMW 5-series.
1999 was the last year for Import Car of the Year. Since then, their choices have been somewhat less crazy.
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
11/28/2017 at 13:53, STARS: 2
I wonder how many ads FCA had to buy ... errr .... I mean EARN this prestigious award.
"ranwhenparked" (ranwhenparked)
11/28/2017 at 13:59, STARS: 0
Only brand new or heavily facelifted cars are eligible for Car of the Year, so that limits the pool of options significantly. The Continental wasnt eligible, because it came out for 2017 and is now in its second model year.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:01, STARS: 1
Thats a good question. This years field was competitive:
Audi A4 Allroad,A5
BMW 5 Series
Honda Civic Si,Odyssey
Hyundai Elantra GT,Ioniq
Infiniti Q60
Kia Niro
Lincoln Contential
Mercedes E Class coupe and wagon
Nissan Leaf
Porsche 718
Smart ForTwo Ev
Subaru Impreza
Toyota Camry,Prius Prime
Volvo V90
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:01, STARS: 0
Whys that?
"Azrek" (azrek)
11/28/2017 at 14:07, STARS: 0
Good list, though I am a fan of the Audi S3, it’ll never win.
"E92M3" (E46M3)
11/28/2017 at 14:07, STARS: 1
It will also make Consumer Reports list.
Of “least reliable cars for 2017"
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:12, STARS: 1
The Continental was one of the contenders this year.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:14, STARS: 0
Its fast but way too small for me to take seriously.
"Milky" (jordanmielke)
11/28/2017 at 14:25, STARS: 1
Sadly its still just a fancy Ford.
... but harsher impacts reveal vibrations and judders that indicate this MKZ-based platform has been stretched to its limits.
Good interior, but auto journos love a good platform.
"dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter" (dsigned001)
11/28/2017 at 14:27, STARS: 1
Life, like shitty EA games, is pay to win
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:43, STARS: 0
True. But I think its a better try than they have been doing as of late. Its a proper flagship thats needed but still not quite there yet.
"Milky" (jordanmielke)
11/28/2017 at 14:54, STARS: 1
I’m just hopeful that the new Lincolns (esp. the Navi) will make Cadillac step their interior game up.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 14:56, STARS: 0
Yea seriously. The interiors on the Continental and new Navigator say Lincoln to me, not fancy Ford. Cadillac interiors say fancy GM to me.
"SpeedSix" (speedsix)
11/28/2017 at 15:14, STARS: 1
-shrug-
It’s MT, anyways.
"ranwhenparked" (ranwhenparked)
11/28/2017 at 15:22, STARS: 1
Ah, never mind then. Maybe they decided that a car that can reliably deliver you to your intended destination was simply too boring.
"jimz" (jimz)
11/28/2017 at 15:46, STARS: 0
they don’t even know what a platform is.
"RT" (rt-p)
11/28/2017 at 16:42, STARS: 0
Because it’s a good-looking, great-driving RWD sporty luxury car.
It’s got old-school Alfa charm but still has modern amenities, getting some of the best crash test results of any car on the market. Enough has been said about the Quadrifioglio, and its Ferrari-derived engine too.
I suppose you could make a better counter-argument solely concerning your side of the pond - because of the patchy dealer network and lack of manual transmission cars in the States. Though purely from the perspective of this being a ‘good car’ or not, I would say it fills a gap in the industry - or at least finally gives us a credible BMW alternative when it comes to enthusiast-oriented luxury cars.
I won’t deny there are downsides, but when these cars depreciate, I’ll certainly have my eye out for these. It’s easily one of the boldest recent moves in the car industry, and all the better for it.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 16:52, STARS: 1
Oh yea Ill definitely be on the lookout for used ones. Its just here in the US the Alfa launch hasnt gone well. Bad press cars, bad consumer cars, a not quite there yet dealer network etc all combine to make their US rebirth not look so good. Ive read that in any trim that are a credible sports sedan. The problem is I dont think enough people will notice or care to take notice.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/28/2017 at 16:57, STARS: 1
I’m surprised by this. I would’ve been slightly more surprised by the Continental.
"RT" (rt-p)
11/28/2017 at 17:02, STARS: 1
Still, at least the brand has an established identity unlike some rivals.
But there you go, a(nother) rough start in the US for Alfa (again), it might not last very long - but enjoy it while you can.
Also, it seems the American motoring press are no stranger to rooting for the underdog. See MotorWeek’s ‘Best Imported 4-door Sedan’ in 1989.
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"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 17:24, STARS: 1
Im not saying that the Continental should have won exclusively, but it is a good about time try on the part of Lincoln.
"LJ909" (lj909)
11/28/2017 at 17:27, STARS: 1
Yea Motorweek did root for the underdog many times though they had actual reasons behind it that made sense.
I hope Alfa does good but its not looking good so far for them in the US. Combine all the other problems with them have pretty much no brand awareness outside of people old enough to remember when they were here the first time. That makes it worse. I still have seen any sort of proper advertising from them (TV).
"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
11/28/2017 at 18:35, STARS: 0
The wobbly wobbly weird Lincoln thing? Why would that be car of the year? It excels at nothing.
"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures)
11/29/2017 at 00:54, STARS: 1
V90 was robbed
"Kanaric" (Kanaric1)
11/29/2017 at 18:23, STARS: 1
It is weird because I thought the consensus was that this car was a disappointment not anything worthy of much praise in only that it’s Alfa’s first rwd car in a while. That isn’t enough.
"Kanaric" (Kanaric1)
11/29/2017 at 18:24, STARS: 1
lmao that’s how I feel about larger cars. Fast but way too big to take seriously as a performance car.
"LJ909" (lj909)
03/08/2018 at 18:14, STARS: 0
Chevy had some questionable model names during the late 80's-early to mid 90's. Its just as bad as Celebrity,Corsica and Beretta.