by "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
Published 11/18/2017 at 16:47
by "DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
Published 11/18/2017 at 16:47
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Edit: Would it be possible to just remove the tie rod end from the hub and spin the nut and tie rod off together? The lock nut doesn’t have a problem spinning with the tie rod, so could I just pop it out of the hub and take them both off at the same time?
Without a lift or dislocating one of your shoulders?
I’ve tried using a cheater pipe. But there’s no room without angling the wrench. But since then the round part of the tie rod causes the wrench to slip off.
Overall it just seems like there’s no natural way to put reasonable force on both wrenches. You get in a good position on one and your other arm’s in some awkward ass position and can’t do shit.
I’m really starting to hate this car.
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
11/18/2017 at 15:20, STARS: 0
Add some heat?
"farscythe - makin da cawfee!" (farscythe)
11/18/2017 at 15:22, STARS: 0
get a mate to pull the other one
easy fix :)
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:22, STARS: 0
I don’t have a torch and I live in an apartment so I don’t think I’d be allowed to store gas here :(
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:24, STARS: 1
But none of my friends have a strength that can parallel mine.
I’ll try that, but I have a feeling it still won’t work, because I think this car just hates me at this point.
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
11/18/2017 at 15:24, STARS: 0
An electric powered heat gun?
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:25, STARS: 0
Idk it that’d get it hot enough. Plus there’s no outdoor electrical sockets nearby.
"farscythe - makin da cawfee!" (farscythe)
11/18/2017 at 15:27, STARS: 0
lol.. well give it a shot... with luck it will work out,,,, and if it dont.. you can always get some silly mug to pay for your demonic car
(had a bike that hated me... i gave it away in the end)
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
11/18/2017 at 15:28, STARS: 3
Do you need to preserve the tie rod?
Make the round part go away. Or cut it off and put a deep socket and breaker bar over the nut.
"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
11/18/2017 at 15:28, STARS: 3
How good a floor jack do you have?
I’ve lowered the car down onto wrenches/stuck bolts before. But you can’t just dump the chassis, you have to be careful.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 1
Instead I think I’ll just take it to the shop I took the Integra to and then they’ll just steal it. The insurance company won’t know what kind of shape it’s in!
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:29, STARS: 0
This is good, but I’m not sure I’d be able to cut it with a hacksaw. I think I’ll save that for a nuclear option.
"farscythe - makin da cawfee!" (farscythe)
11/18/2017 at 15:31, STARS: 0
whatever works mate :)
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:31, STARS: 0
I always lower slowly, but idk about the previous owners of the car.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
11/18/2017 at 15:31, STARS: 1
Got kinja’d twice on my photo. Grumble.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:32, STARS: 0
No power outlets nearby, but I’m sure there’s a corded version. I don’t really wanna spend a lot of money of tools for this POS though.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
11/18/2017 at 15:32, STARS: 0
The other advantage to the grinder is it’ll apply heat.
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
11/18/2017 at 15:34, STARS: 0
The 220V versions that we have here are quite powerful but I have never tried any 110V model. Penetration lube and two hammers against the pipe part?
"boxrocket" (boxrocket)
11/18/2017 at 15:35, STARS: 0
Technically, yes, you could do it with a Sawzall, plasma cutter, the Jaws of Life, etc., but then you still have to remove it from the ends in a clean way.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
11/18/2017 at 15:36, STARS: 0
Think of it not as spending money for tools for the POS, but rather for tools to allow you to do more things in the future. For just a hobbyist, the cheaper store-brand tools (not the garbage harbour freight junk) will get the job done and frequently end up costing less than paying someone else to do the job.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:42, STARS: 0
True but I don’t think I’ll be doing too many jobs that require cutting anything.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 15:43, STARS: 0
Already used PB blaster. The pipe doesn’t work at all, because it won’t fit without angling the wrench then the wrench just slides off.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/18/2017 at 15:50, STARS: 0
Lots of good ideas already. You should try those before this next suggestion: removing the inner rod from the rack.
"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1)
11/18/2017 at 15:50, STARS: 1
I was thinking about hammering that tubular part of the tie rod with opposing hammers. They could deform it enough for the lube to slip in.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
11/18/2017 at 15:57, STARS: 2
You’d be surprised. Once you discover that you could either piss around and get mad at something for a few hours and not accomplish anything or else cut it off in five minutes and be done with it, it starts getting used more and more often.
"Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street." (demon-xanth)
11/18/2017 at 16:09, STARS: 3
Move the wrench pointed downwards until it is closer to paralell with the one to the left. Place a bar between the two angled so when you pull up on it a lever is created with one as the fulcrum. You’ll be effectively pushing and pulling at once. Alternatively, position a wrench to hit something while turning the other.
"MM54" (mm54mk2)
11/18/2017 at 16:13, STARS: 0
Similarly, if the wrench needs to go “up” I have used the floor jack to push up on the wrench.
I once lifted the front of the crown vic off the jackstands through a 16" breaker bar using this method. That caliper bracket bolt sure was tight...
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 16:18, STARS: 0
HOLY SHIT This is genius!
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
11/18/2017 at 16:21, STARS: 2
I would use a really big pipe wrench on the round part and a crowfoot wrench attachment on a 18-24” ratchet on the nut. That should get you enough leverage to break it free.
"merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc" (merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc)
11/18/2017 at 16:24, STARS: 1
Mapp gas torch at the nut for a short time and it should break loose relatively easy.
If that doesn’t work, if you have a pneumatic hammer, use a blunt tip and smack the nut side in the direction to loosen the nut, that should do the trick.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 16:33, STARS: 1
I’m think so. I just got a neighbor to help me with it and doing one wrench each we couldn’t get it. So I think it needs more leverage.
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 16:36, STARS: 0
No dice. There’s not enough room for the further wrench to come from the left and the CV axle blocks the front one from coming to the right :(
Think I’m just gonna have to get a torch and try heat.
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
11/18/2017 at 17:04, STARS: 1
I think you need to check whether there is a reverse thread on that tie rod. I seem to recall that there is. if so, you are tightening that nut, not loosening it.
But, to answer your question yes assuming you can get the ball joint out of the knuckle, you can remove unthread the joint off of the tie rod end. However, every honda hub I have worked on has been a SOB to get the ball joint out of the hub, even if you have the honda tool.
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
11/18/2017 at 17:26, STARS: 0
Yeah sometimes those things get really stuck. Especially with corrosion. At this point if you don’t need to go anywhere I would soak it with penetrating oil and let it sit overnight. Then use a handheld butane torch on it in the AM and then get both of you on it. It’s hard to tell from the image, but it does look like there might be room to get more leverage. A crowfoot plus a long ratchet tends to work better than a wrench and cheater.
"brianbrannon" (brianbrannon)
11/18/2017 at 21:45, STARS: 0
Just leave the outer tie rod bolted to the spindle and you only have to use one wrench at a time
"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-)
11/18/2017 at 23:01, STARS: 0
Really? So would I just tighten the lock nut? (Move it inward?)