by "sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
Published 11/17/2017 at 18:07
by "sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
Published 11/17/2017 at 18:07
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First, the cool car. It’s a ‘92 Saab 900 Turbo in mint condition, parked just down the street from where that ‘68 Polara was parked yesterday. I passed the guy going the other way in traffic earlier this week and we exchanged a mutual Saab owner wave (fun thing about my car is I get the knowing owner wave from both Saab Snobs and Subaru Impreza Bros).
Second, I’m trying to decide if the Saabaru (and consequently the Impreza) is a hatchback or a small wagon? I know it’s a distinction without much of a difference, but for some reason I feel like these older ones are wagons while the post-2008 ones are hatchbacks. No clue why.
"arl" (arl1968)
11/17/2017 at 18:27, STARS: 3
I always thought of the Impreza’s as small wagons.
And Saab’s are groovy. My Dad my a 900 Turbo he called Zippy. I call my GTI Zippy-Two as it’s about the same size, weight, turbo 4, hatchback. etc.
My wife has a Nissan Rogue.
When we call each other from our cars (HANDS FREE) we answer “ZIppy-Two”, or “Rogue-One”. We are goofballs.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 18:32, STARS: 1
We are
goofballs
relationship goals.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/17/2017 at 18:50, STARS: 0
2-door (
technically 3-door) = hatchback
4-door (
technically 5-door) = wagon
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 18:52, STARS: 3
Right, except to me this is still a hatch:
"MarquetteLa" (marquettela)
11/17/2017 at 18:54, STARS: 5
It’s a small wagon. There’s a side window behind the rear door.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 18:58, STARS: 0
That’s a good way to look at it.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/17/2017 at 19:01, STARS: 2
I have to admit, I do feel much more comfortable calling something a wagon when it has a substantially large rear cargo area, like a Roadmaster. But it’s hard to decide where to draw the line. (Should it be based on cubic feet? Anything over a certain number makes it a wagon?)
Judging by the number of doors might be oversimplifying things. But think it serves as a better starting point. From there, one can compare other wagons (or hatchbacks) and determine things like what a “small wagon” is.
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 19:04, STARS: 0
MarquetteLa made a good point, how about whether or not it has a window behind the back door (for 4-doors)?
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/17/2017 at 19:10, STARS: 1
TBH, I feel like the window thing would be more suitable for discussing large vs small , rather than wagon vs hatchback .
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
11/17/2017 at 19:18, STARS: 0
It’s Shorter than sedan verient(by two inches) so I’d call it a hatchback . If it’s shorter, in wheelbase, or overall length it’s a hatchback. If it’s longer or as long it’s a Wagon.
Edit: I was wrong they are both 174 inches long. The sedan is wider somehow tho. I was looking at the wrong numbers
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
11/17/2017 at 19:21, STARS: 0
I think if as a langth factor. If the it’s longer, or as long as the sedan verient it’s a Wagon. If it’s shorter it’s a hatchback.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/17/2017 at 19:27, STARS: 0
Longer than what? Shorter than what?
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 19:30, STARS: 0
The sedan version
"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/17/2017 at 19:31, STARS: 1
So now it’s a wagon?
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
11/17/2017 at 19:31, STARS: 1
Yes Wagon
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
11/17/2017 at 19:36, STARS: 1
Whoops, I missed the edited version of HFV’s reply haha. It previously read “If it’s longer it’s a wagon. If it’s shorter it’s a hatchback.”
"RT" (rt-p)
11/17/2017 at 20:20, STARS: 1
I’m with you, the extra glass on this one makes it an estate (or wagon), while the later Imprezas had a shape more similar to a normal hatachback (e.g: VW Golf) instead.
Plus ‘small wagons’ do exist, in Euroland especially.
The one below is shorter than a 4-door Mitsubishi Mirage.
Bonus cool 900 cutaway I found.
"facw" (facw)
11/17/2017 at 21:19, STARS: 1
I would call it a small wagon.
Torch had an analysis though personally I don’t think his rules work 100% of the time: https://jalopnik.com/5872562/what-makes-a-wagon-a-wagon
"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass)
11/17/2017 at 22:36, STARS: 1
I always use the C-D pillar test. If it has flat roof between the C and D pillars it is a wagon. If the C and D pillars merge it is hatch. If it only has a C pillar it is a hatch. This is a wagon. The newer ones are hatchbacks.
"AR24-7" (ar24-7)
11/26/2017 at 17:02, STARS: 1
WAGON.