So I have this 2.0L Diesel & 6-speed combo lying around

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Published 11/08/2017 at 16:30

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Should I drop them into a regular ass Supermini like this Mk.3 Clio? It’d be a true euro muscle car.

As some will know its the engine and trans from the dead Espace, and those that have been to the March Europpomeet know that 150hp/350Nm are surprisingly sufficient for moving a 1,8 ton Van around.


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Kinja'd!!! "AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop" (ac-2-shoes)
11/08/2017 at 16:34, STARS: 0

Drop it into a literal Mini to make a super mini

Kinja'd!!! "MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
11/08/2017 at 16:39, STARS: 0

No.

Kinja'd!!! "BritishLeyland™" (leylandcars)
11/08/2017 at 16:53, STARS: 0

Do you just happen to have an engine/gearbox lying around...?

Kinja'd!!! "Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell." (oppisitelock)
11/08/2017 at 16:55, STARS: 0

Would be an insanely tight fit in a clio, probably would be clearancing the firewall or something to make room. The 2l petrol 197 has a super tight engine bay and the diesel with its turbo are even bigger. It would be a hell of a lot of fun though.

Kinja'd!!! "MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
11/08/2017 at 17:12, STARS: 0

Would it though. They did sell the Mk.3 with the 2.0L M4R Petrol engine, and mine is a M9R Diesel, so I can’t imagine a huge difference in terms of length. Is the engine bay on these really that short?

Kinja'd!!! "MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
11/08/2017 at 17:19, STARS: 0

I just happen to own a crashed Renault Van with undamaged drivetrain, yes.

Kinja'd!!! "Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell." (oppisitelock)
11/08/2017 at 17:44, STARS: 0

Even if the blocks are a comparable size, you then have to accomodate the turbo. I’ve looked in the engine bay of a 197, there’s not much spare space, if any.

Kinja'd!!! "bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
11/08/2017 at 17:47, STARS: 0

Could always go naturally aspirated if you want a miserable experience, or relocate the turbo somewhere else if you don’t mind some more lag?

Kinja'd!!! "Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell." (oppisitelock)
11/08/2017 at 17:59, STARS: 0

Turbo straight up through the bonnet would be amazing.

Kinja'd!!! "Out, but with a W - has found the answer" (belg)
11/08/2017 at 18:26, STARS: 0

Put it in the rear? (Yes, I know, phrasing!)

Kinja'd!!! "RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
11/08/2017 at 19:57, STARS: 0

Here’s a plan - swap it into something like a classic Ford Mustang and troll people.

Kinja'd!!! "duurtlang" (duurtlang)
11/09/2017 at 04:00, STARS: 0

You should be able to find a car it’ll fit in. My 2.0 turbo will fit in a 205 just fine. The firewall had to be massaged a bit for the exhaust manifold, but that was it mostly. Same engine family as the stock engine, so engine mounts are stock PSA.

What about a mk1 Clio instead? They did come with an optional 2.0 NA engine. Or, take it a bit further and install the front subframe of the Espace in the back of a mk1 or mk2 Clio. That the Clio is far narrower is nothing but a minor detail ;)

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edit : easiest yet entertaining swap is probably a mk3 Clio or a Juke. They both had engines from this engine family. Find a Juke donor, install the drivetrain and either lower it or raise it.